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Reply to woo me with science (Reply #73)

Thu Nov 6, 2014, 11:11 AM

Nov 2014

We all wake up to the truth at our own pace.

The thing is, soon people will realize that Fracking and Keystone are obsolete. The status quo needs to act fast. The Japanese are paving the road to the future, mostly because the US has been mired in war mode since Clinton bombed Kosovo (the first PNAC war) and busy with surveillance.

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Obama today: "Keystone, I just consider as one small aspect of a broader trend that’s really positiv [View all] grahamhgreen Nov 2014 OP

HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA montanacowboy Nov 2014 #1

Positive my ass. JEB Nov 2014 #2

Yep. Destroying the goddamned planet so the fucking Kochs can get even richer... Triana Nov 2014 #3

Post removed Post removed Nov 2014 #4

Exactly. ucrdem Nov 2014 #7

Yesterday was a big day for conservatives. Now they will get their fracking, TPP, and XL Pipelines. rhett o rick Nov 2014 #47

They might. ucrdem Nov 2014 #50

But he supports the TPP, right? Now it can be fast tracked thru the Senate just like he wants. rhett o rick Nov 2014 #66

Don't forget ENTITLEMENT REFORM! SammyWinstonJack Nov 2014 #68

What can I say? nm rhett o rick Nov 2014 #72

No, he didn't "openly support" any of this. Were you listening? nt ucrdem Nov 2014 #120

Yes I was. He is letting the pipeline "play out". Not sure what that means to rhett o rick Nov 2014 #122

But only if Obama gives it to them--he has a veto pen Wella Nov 2014 #54

Why would you expect him to veto these? He is a supporter. He sees eye to eye with rhett o rick Nov 2014 #65

You think he wanted a Republican Senate? Wella Nov 2014 #88

This has nothing to do with what I think. I asked you why you think he might rhett o rick Nov 2014 #89

It does have to do with what you think. It sounds like you think he is happy Wella Nov 2014 #90

You mention the veto pen. I am saying that he won't use a veto pen for those rhett o rick Nov 2014 #93

Well, I guess we'll get to see where he really stands Wella Nov 2014 #94

We better hope that the Republicans don't bring up cutting SS or Medicare. Just sayin'. nm rhett o rick Nov 2014 #95

I'm going to go soak my head now. Wella Nov 2014 #98

This message was self-deleted by its author rhett o rick Nov 2014 #100

Yep, drill baby drill CanonRay Nov 2014 #111

Election Day was the greatest day for conservatives since Benghazi. n/t Efilroft Sul Nov 2014 #115

We will see our Conservative President have a field day with the new Conservative Senate. rhett o rick Nov 2014 #116

Goodbye Net Neutrality, too. n/t Efilroft Sul Nov 2014 #117

And Arnie Duncan will have a field day with education. nm rhett o rick Nov 2014 #118

Your side won? RobertEarl Nov 2014 #8

How exactly will Obama make money off of Keystone? nt el_bryanto Nov 2014 #20

You really asked such a question? RobertEarl Nov 2014 #23

He's not running for office again - will he get put on the Koch's board? or what? nt el_bryanto Nov 2014 #30

You are new. RobertEarl Nov 2014 #33

I'm not new, actually. I've been around for quite a number of years. el_bryanto Nov 2014 #38

And Carter? RobertEarl Nov 2014 #43

Don't worry, if you support Wall St.... daleanime Nov 2014 #53

What about Carter? jwirr Nov 2014 #85

Are you new to politics? How will Eric Holder make money off of giving Wall Street rhett o rick Nov 2014 #49

How is posting what the President said "anti-Obama"? Please tell me??? grahamhgreen Nov 2014 #9

Is what was posted a lie? Autumn Nov 2014 #10

It's re-posting his own statement, and they are classifying the presidents statement as "anti-Obama" grahamhgreen Nov 2014 #15

nothing weird about it Skittles Nov 2014 #35

Well they did admire and often Rec a certain Pretzel. adirondacker Nov 2014 #71

When you leave out more than 9/10s of what he actually said ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2014 #31

No it's not a lie, It's a snippet of the press conference that a poster found Autumn Nov 2014 #42

+1000 Spazito Nov 2014 #19

I didn't hear any commitment to Keystone: ucrdem Nov 2014 #5

He still doesn't get it? RobertEarl Nov 2014 #11

Obama's implication was that Keystone is less important than it was 6 years ago ucrdem Nov 2014 #14

He's playing politics with Keystone RobertEarl Nov 2014 #25

I think he's effectively said no already. ucrdem Nov 2014 #29

Of course he's playing politics. He's going to "study" it to death. I've always thought so. nt Hekate Nov 2014 #114

Keystone was never about energy independence. upaloopa Nov 2014 #32

No. He just referred to it as positive. And he referred to tar sands as "oil", which it isn't. For grahamhgreen Nov 2014 #13

As I've told my friends after every major news catasphrophe... Last_Stand Nov 2014 #55

Of course not. Obama has been dithering on this since it started, hoping it goes away Recursion Nov 2014 #16

I agree with you there. ucrdem Nov 2014 #21

Read down a couple of paragraphs, Obama did say: Autumn Nov 2014 #18

And a couple paragraphs before that ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2014 #40

One last time. Obama said exactly what the poster said that you guys are all saying is a lie. Autumn Nov 2014 #44

In Full ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2014 #58

I see what you did there, but that's not what the poster did. Autumn Nov 2014 #61

LOL ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2014 #69

Guess it all comes down to what you believe. What Obama said or what Obama said. Autumn Nov 2014 #74

Thanks for providing the full quote. After 6 years, it still hasn't gone through. Amazing, no? Hekate Nov 2014 #113

Seems like a fair comment to me JonLP24 Nov 2014 #121

OH YES YES YES it just keeps getting better. WorseBeforeBetter Nov 2014 #6

Wow RiverLover Nov 2014 #12

Obama is our last line of defense at this point. Doesn't look good. Shocking grahamhgreen Nov 2014 #17

I heard this bit live and I think your fears are unfounded. ucrdem Nov 2014 #22

We're fucked LittleBlue Nov 2014 #24

"really positive for the American people." IDemo Nov 2014 #26

.. SCliberal091294 Nov 2014 #27

Its bad for climate, drinking water, land, farmers, trees... RiverLover Nov 2014 #37

That is nowhere near "In Full" ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2014 #28

You can't expect inveterate haters to be honest alcibiades_mystery Nov 2014 #34

The sad thing is "Liberals/progressives" are ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2014 #36

The nuance is well understood...dude's no dummy alcibiades_mystery Nov 2014 #39

No need for nuance RiverLover Nov 2014 #41

Okay. eom. 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2014 #57

Does this mean you fully support the building of the pipeline? nm rhett o rick Nov 2014 #64

No, he's saying the opposite, that Keystone is homegrown energy. grahamhgreen Nov 2014 #45

That's why he made the point in the speech ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2014 #59

So let's look at what he really said. rhett o rick Nov 2014 #63

I guess one will take away whatever one wants ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2014 #67

You have a very strange logic. rhett o rick Nov 2014 #75

DU's Combustible Hair Club is now in session. JoePhilly Nov 2014 #77

True! I guess I should be used to it by now. eom. 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2014 #79

The right wing has nothing on some of these folks. JoePhilly Nov 2014 #81

That can't be! ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2014 #82

Do you think those that are opposed to fracking and the XL Pipeline are "DU's rhett o rick Nov 2014 #92

There is a difference between ... JoePhilly Nov 2014 #96

There is nothing below about dogs and cats living together. Help me find the rhett o rick Nov 2014 #99

Ask the poster about to vomit ~4 down JoePhilly Nov 2014 #101

And you think the concerns are unfounded? Do you really think the XL Pipeline wont get rhett o rick Nov 2014 #106

Again you confuse "concern" ... JoePhilly Nov 2014 #108

Crazy? I guess. rhett o rick Nov 2014 #112

I think Pres Obama is still letting the process work its riversedge Nov 2014 #105

I think your hunch is well founded ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2014 #109

"think the GOP will force him to pass it?" --signed, the sort of Dem who thinks we're out of Iraq MisterP Nov 2014 #46

I heard that but am hoping he was reeferring to the prefacing of Canada's Keystone. glinda Nov 2014 #48

It would have eliminated all doubt had he just said a clear "NO" about Keystone. eom BP2 Nov 2014 #51

Please excuse me while a vomit. Odin2005 Nov 2014 #52

All things working to plan... woo me with science Nov 2014 #56

I never would have believed in my wildest dreams about President Obama but here goes: Brigid Nov 2014 #60

Welcome. woo me with science Nov 2014 #73

+1 nationalize the fed Nov 2014 #76

Wow. Thank you for posting this. woo me with science Nov 2014 #78

Right! You get it immediately! nationalize the fed Nov 2014 #87

You didn't read the full exchange. See post #28. randome Nov 2014 #91

Reading the "full exchange" clarifies nothing. It's pure rhetoric. rhett o rick Nov 2014 #110

Just relax and enjoy it. n/t Orsino Nov 2014 #62

Keystone is coming and this may have been what he wanted. Puzzledtraveller Nov 2014 #70

Bye bye to the auguifer. There is going to be no fresh water left in this country. I think we need jwirr Nov 2014 #80

Jesus, anyone get the feeling Obama was happy with the Election Results? dilby Nov 2014 #83

So much for the Veto Pen theory. Tierra_y_Libertad Nov 2014 #84

Next we'll return to TBF Nov 2014 #86

Just my opinion, but Blue_In_AK Nov 2014 #97

Not just your opinion. Hatchling Nov 2014 #102

:) Blue_In_AK Nov 2014 #104

now his party has both house & senate expect more of this shit elehhhhna Nov 2014 #103

And a president pushing a conservative agenda. rhett o rick Nov 2014 #107

Yep. He should use this quote: BeanMusical Nov 2014 #123

What a surprise! BeanMusical Nov 2014 #119