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87. Right! You get it immediately!

Reply to woo me with science (Reply #78)

Thu Nov 6, 2014, 12:35 PM

Nov 2014

You're out in front of many things.

I posted it in the Energy group
http://www.democraticunderground.com/112777268

Maybe I should post it here. Thanks for the idea.

This is truly the biggest thing to happen in the field of energy in our lifetimes.

Transforming. Huge. It truly will change *everything*. Imagine a world of plenty instead of a world of oil wars, scarcity and conflict.

It's here, as soon as people want. Thanks to the Japanese. They've worked on this tech for >20 years and now it's here.

Check these links out:

ITV Video: Honda Solarpark in Swindon, UK
http://www.itv.com/news/west/story/2014-09-03/solar-farm-opens-in-swindon/

Institute of Mechanical Engineers: First green hydrogen refuelling station opens
Solar-powered hydrogen available to drivers at Honda's Swindon factory
http://www.imeche.org/news/engineering/first-green-hydrogen-refuelling-station-opens

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Obama today: "Keystone, I just consider as one small aspect of a broader trend that’s really positiv [View all] grahamhgreen Nov 2014 OP

HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA montanacowboy Nov 2014 #1

Positive my ass. JEB Nov 2014 #2

Yep. Destroying the goddamned planet so the fucking Kochs can get even richer... Triana Nov 2014 #3

Post removed Post removed Nov 2014 #4

Exactly. ucrdem Nov 2014 #7

Yesterday was a big day for conservatives. Now they will get their fracking, TPP, and XL Pipelines. rhett o rick Nov 2014 #47

They might. ucrdem Nov 2014 #50

But he supports the TPP, right? Now it can be fast tracked thru the Senate just like he wants. rhett o rick Nov 2014 #66

Don't forget ENTITLEMENT REFORM! SammyWinstonJack Nov 2014 #68

What can I say? nm rhett o rick Nov 2014 #72

No, he didn't "openly support" any of this. Were you listening? nt ucrdem Nov 2014 #120

Yes I was. He is letting the pipeline "play out". Not sure what that means to rhett o rick Nov 2014 #122

But only if Obama gives it to them--he has a veto pen Wella Nov 2014 #54

Why would you expect him to veto these? He is a supporter. He sees eye to eye with rhett o rick Nov 2014 #65

You think he wanted a Republican Senate? Wella Nov 2014 #88

This has nothing to do with what I think. I asked you why you think he might rhett o rick Nov 2014 #89

It does have to do with what you think. It sounds like you think he is happy Wella Nov 2014 #90

You mention the veto pen. I am saying that he won't use a veto pen for those rhett o rick Nov 2014 #93

Well, I guess we'll get to see where he really stands Wella Nov 2014 #94

We better hope that the Republicans don't bring up cutting SS or Medicare. Just sayin'. nm rhett o rick Nov 2014 #95

I'm going to go soak my head now. Wella Nov 2014 #98

This message was self-deleted by its author rhett o rick Nov 2014 #100

Yep, drill baby drill CanonRay Nov 2014 #111

Election Day was the greatest day for conservatives since Benghazi. n/t Efilroft Sul Nov 2014 #115

We will see our Conservative President have a field day with the new Conservative Senate. rhett o rick Nov 2014 #116

Goodbye Net Neutrality, too. n/t Efilroft Sul Nov 2014 #117

And Arnie Duncan will have a field day with education. nm rhett o rick Nov 2014 #118

Your side won? RobertEarl Nov 2014 #8

How exactly will Obama make money off of Keystone? nt el_bryanto Nov 2014 #20

You really asked such a question? RobertEarl Nov 2014 #23

He's not running for office again - will he get put on the Koch's board? or what? nt el_bryanto Nov 2014 #30

You are new. RobertEarl Nov 2014 #33

I'm not new, actually. I've been around for quite a number of years. el_bryanto Nov 2014 #38

And Carter? RobertEarl Nov 2014 #43

Don't worry, if you support Wall St.... daleanime Nov 2014 #53

What about Carter? jwirr Nov 2014 #85

Are you new to politics? How will Eric Holder make money off of giving Wall Street rhett o rick Nov 2014 #49

How is posting what the President said "anti-Obama"? Please tell me??? grahamhgreen Nov 2014 #9

Is what was posted a lie? Autumn Nov 2014 #10

It's re-posting his own statement, and they are classifying the presidents statement as "anti-Obama" grahamhgreen Nov 2014 #15

nothing weird about it Skittles Nov 2014 #35

Well they did admire and often Rec a certain Pretzel. adirondacker Nov 2014 #71

When you leave out more than 9/10s of what he actually said ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2014 #31

No it's not a lie, It's a snippet of the press conference that a poster found Autumn Nov 2014 #42

+1000 Spazito Nov 2014 #19

I didn't hear any commitment to Keystone: ucrdem Nov 2014 #5

He still doesn't get it? RobertEarl Nov 2014 #11

Obama's implication was that Keystone is less important than it was 6 years ago ucrdem Nov 2014 #14

He's playing politics with Keystone RobertEarl Nov 2014 #25

I think he's effectively said no already. ucrdem Nov 2014 #29

Of course he's playing politics. He's going to "study" it to death. I've always thought so. nt Hekate Nov 2014 #114

Keystone was never about energy independence. upaloopa Nov 2014 #32

No. He just referred to it as positive. And he referred to tar sands as "oil", which it isn't. For grahamhgreen Nov 2014 #13

As I've told my friends after every major news catasphrophe... Last_Stand Nov 2014 #55

Of course not. Obama has been dithering on this since it started, hoping it goes away Recursion Nov 2014 #16

I agree with you there. ucrdem Nov 2014 #21

Read down a couple of paragraphs, Obama did say: Autumn Nov 2014 #18

And a couple paragraphs before that ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2014 #40

One last time. Obama said exactly what the poster said that you guys are all saying is a lie. Autumn Nov 2014 #44

In Full ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2014 #58

I see what you did there, but that's not what the poster did. Autumn Nov 2014 #61

LOL ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2014 #69

Guess it all comes down to what you believe. What Obama said or what Obama said. Autumn Nov 2014 #74

Thanks for providing the full quote. After 6 years, it still hasn't gone through. Amazing, no? Hekate Nov 2014 #113

Seems like a fair comment to me JonLP24 Nov 2014 #121

OH YES YES YES it just keeps getting better. WorseBeforeBetter Nov 2014 #6

Wow RiverLover Nov 2014 #12

Obama is our last line of defense at this point. Doesn't look good. Shocking grahamhgreen Nov 2014 #17

I heard this bit live and I think your fears are unfounded. ucrdem Nov 2014 #22

We're fucked LittleBlue Nov 2014 #24

"really positive for the American people." IDemo Nov 2014 #26

.. SCliberal091294 Nov 2014 #27

Its bad for climate, drinking water, land, farmers, trees... RiverLover Nov 2014 #37

That is nowhere near "In Full" ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2014 #28

You can't expect inveterate haters to be honest alcibiades_mystery Nov 2014 #34

The sad thing is "Liberals/progressives" are ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2014 #36

The nuance is well understood...dude's no dummy alcibiades_mystery Nov 2014 #39

No need for nuance RiverLover Nov 2014 #41

Okay. eom. 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2014 #57

Does this mean you fully support the building of the pipeline? nm rhett o rick Nov 2014 #64

No, he's saying the opposite, that Keystone is homegrown energy. grahamhgreen Nov 2014 #45

That's why he made the point in the speech ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2014 #59

So let's look at what he really said. rhett o rick Nov 2014 #63

I guess one will take away whatever one wants ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2014 #67

You have a very strange logic. rhett o rick Nov 2014 #75

DU's Combustible Hair Club is now in session. JoePhilly Nov 2014 #77

True! I guess I should be used to it by now. eom. 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2014 #79

The right wing has nothing on some of these folks. JoePhilly Nov 2014 #81

That can't be! ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2014 #82

Do you think those that are opposed to fracking and the XL Pipeline are "DU's rhett o rick Nov 2014 #92

There is a difference between ... JoePhilly Nov 2014 #96

There is nothing below about dogs and cats living together. Help me find the rhett o rick Nov 2014 #99

Ask the poster about to vomit ~4 down JoePhilly Nov 2014 #101

And you think the concerns are unfounded? Do you really think the XL Pipeline wont get rhett o rick Nov 2014 #106

Again you confuse "concern" ... JoePhilly Nov 2014 #108

Crazy? I guess. rhett o rick Nov 2014 #112

I think Pres Obama is still letting the process work its riversedge Nov 2014 #105

I think your hunch is well founded ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2014 #109

"think the GOP will force him to pass it?" --signed, the sort of Dem who thinks we're out of Iraq MisterP Nov 2014 #46

I heard that but am hoping he was reeferring to the prefacing of Canada's Keystone. glinda Nov 2014 #48

It would have eliminated all doubt had he just said a clear "NO" about Keystone. eom BP2 Nov 2014 #51

Please excuse me while a vomit. Odin2005 Nov 2014 #52

All things working to plan... woo me with science Nov 2014 #56

I never would have believed in my wildest dreams about President Obama but here goes: Brigid Nov 2014 #60

Welcome. woo me with science Nov 2014 #73

+1 nationalize the fed Nov 2014 #76

Wow. Thank you for posting this. woo me with science Nov 2014 #78

Right! You get it immediately! nationalize the fed Nov 2014 #87

You didn't read the full exchange. See post #28. randome Nov 2014 #91

Reading the "full exchange" clarifies nothing. It's pure rhetoric. rhett o rick Nov 2014 #110

Just relax and enjoy it. n/t Orsino Nov 2014 #62

Keystone is coming and this may have been what he wanted. Puzzledtraveller Nov 2014 #70

Bye bye to the auguifer. There is going to be no fresh water left in this country. I think we need jwirr Nov 2014 #80

Jesus, anyone get the feeling Obama was happy with the Election Results? dilby Nov 2014 #83

So much for the Veto Pen theory. Tierra_y_Libertad Nov 2014 #84

Next we'll return to TBF Nov 2014 #86

Just my opinion, but Blue_In_AK Nov 2014 #97

Not just your opinion. Hatchling Nov 2014 #102

:) Blue_In_AK Nov 2014 #104

now his party has both house & senate expect more of this shit elehhhhna Nov 2014 #103

And a president pushing a conservative agenda. rhett o rick Nov 2014 #107

Yep. He should use this quote: BeanMusical Nov 2014 #123

What a surprise! BeanMusical Nov 2014 #119