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KingCharlemagne

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25. Thanks for the link. I will take a look tomorrow. In the meantime, wanted to

Reply to joshcryer (Reply #16)

Sat Nov 8, 2014, 10:04 PM

Nov 2014

recommend to you this multi-lingual site for some pretty balanced and clear-eyed analysis of the situation on the ground. The author's sympathies rest with NAF and with Russia, but he has a clear view of NAF's proclivity to over-reach also (by going for Odessa, for example):

http://vineyardsaker.blogspot.com/

I've been so preoccupied with events in Ferguson and St. Louis County recently that I've not been paying as much attention as i probably should to developments in Ukraine. Your post(s) have prodded me to spend a little more time there again.

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Associated Press reporters saw more than 80 unmarked military vehicles (Ukraine) [View all] Duckhunter935 Nov 2014 OP

Once the "Party of War" won the elections in Ukraine that was likely the death nell on the shaky newthinking Nov 2014 #1

They are simply slowly militarizing Donbas. joshcryer Nov 2014 #2

Please just try to be neutral. Essentially the shaky "ceasefire" failed. This is just what happens. newthinking Nov 2014 #5

The Donesk airport isn't going anywhere. joshcryer Nov 2014 #6

The airport is completely unuseful. It is not strategic, it is *symbolic*. Strategically they should newthinking Nov 2014 #8

It is absolutely strategic. joshcryer Nov 2014 #9

Yes it is Duckhunter935 Nov 2014 #11

I had read that it would be very difficult and time consuming to repair them newthinking Nov 2014 #15

Those are tiny. joshcryer Nov 2014 #17

I won't address that because of primary point you are trying to make is not factual newthinking Nov 2014 #23

No, it's historical fact. joshcryer Nov 2014 #29

What cease fire Duckhunter935 Nov 2014 #4

Mariupol is pro-Ukraine, it'd be a mistake to try to take it. joshcryer Nov 2014 #3

Rose colored glasses. We will disagree. They are anti-Kiev. They were predominant party of Regions newthinking Nov 2014 #7

They are anti war. joshcryer Nov 2014 #10

Russian Federation Foreign Minister Lavrov offered a way out last March or April with KingCharlemagne Nov 2014 #12

Federalism kills the EU agreement. joshcryer Nov 2014 #13

Kiev has no strategy nor any means to compel NAF to surrender or even to KingCharlemagne Nov 2014 #14

The scale of the war is overblown. joshcryer Nov 2014 #16

There are too many interests getting in the way of peace newthinking Nov 2014 #20

"Ukrainian Free Media"? LOL - newthinking Nov 2014 #21

Free media = social media. joshcryer Nov 2014 #22

Web traffic is heavily monitored in Ukraine by the government newthinking Nov 2014 #24

Ukraine doesn't have Russia's "blogger reporting law." joshcryer Nov 2014 #27

Thanks for the link. I will take a look tomorrow. In the meantime, wanted to KingCharlemagne Nov 2014 #25

You're "new" here, so you may not be aware that vineyardsaker is an holocaust-denying hate site... SidDithers Nov 2014 #26

Thanks for pointing that out. joshcryer Nov 2014 #28

I agree with this. While the narrative was powerful in the beginning newthinking Nov 2014 #18

Nato's site doesn't mention this... KoKo Nov 2014 #19