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Segami

(14,923 posts)
16. ReTHUGS are fighting Obama on one front..
Sun Nov 9, 2014, 12:05 AM
Nov 2014

...while warding off the Ted Cruz 'stop-Obama-at-any-cost' mumblers of the party on another front. Turtle has his shell filled.


if reTHUGS can't stop Obama (legally), they will forever be tagged & preserved like pickles as the Anti-Immigrant Party......not good for 2016.


One quasi-challenge does stand out. Kris Kobach, the Kansas secretary of state, once represented a group of Immigration and Customs Enforcement officers in a suit against the program, but the case was ultimately dismissed on procedural grounds. It was never appealed.

Kobach’s lawsuit—like his work behind Arizona’s SB 1070 and other immigration laws across the United States—was especially engineered to bring down DACA on constitutional and federal law grounds, under the guise that the program somehow forced law-abiding immigration officers to violate their oath to uphold the laws of the United States.

A venerable argument, but it went nowhere in court.

This may explain why Boehner never bothered to sue Obama over DACA. Like his beleaguered lawsuit challenging the Obama administration over the implementation of the Affordable Care Act—which he hasn’t even filed—a separate DACA lawsuit probably would’ve failed big time in court.

It would’ve failed because courts do not like to entertain political questions. Political questions are those involving the elected branches—Congress and the president. And DACA, a program involving Obama’s broad discretion in enforcing immigration laws, has everything to do with Obama’s powers as the nation’s top executive. But DACA is also related to Congress’ powers to pass immigration laws.

So who’s right and who’s wrong? That’s a dispute a federal judge would likely never settle, because a judge’s only task is to say what the law is—not to referee a power dispute between co-equal branches of government. That’s how separation of powers works.

And that’s precisely why Obama’s plan to use executive action on immigration—within the parameters of existing immigration law—poses no constitutional problems. So long as he acts in a manner consistent with his prosecutorial discretion to enforce or not enforce the laws, the courts won’t get involved.

http://fusion.net/story/26225/analysis-executive-action-on-immigration-is-perfectly-legal/





“If he doesn’t move soon, his legacy is going to be one that is antithetical to human rights,” Matos said. “That moniker of ‘deporter-in-chief’ will forever be stuck on him.”


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Based upon his cave on the Keystone pipeline, I'm not holding my breath for him to go big BP2 Nov 2014 #1
Well.. Segami Nov 2014 #3
That wasn't a cave. Jackpine Radical Nov 2014 #10
I am ready for the Keystone pipeline. Jim Beard Nov 2014 #12
It doesn't work that way. defacto7 Nov 2014 #15
Oh SNAP! Now the President can obstruct them. applegrove Nov 2014 #2
I hope the President has the money to do this yeoman6987 Nov 2014 #4
Dreamers waiting for the GOP better keep dreaming... Historic NY Nov 2014 #5
They may change their tune in order azmom Nov 2014 #38
Whoa boys and girls, Wellstone ruled Nov 2014 #6
interesting he chooses to make a phony stand AFTER the election Doctor_J Nov 2014 #8
Yep. We will know much more about that in the first ballyhoo Nov 2014 #23
Cut the degenerate ODS bullshit. True Blue Door Nov 2014 #30
Can't please some people Andy823 Nov 2014 #40
You were supposed to KEEP supporting the President first, then he supports you. He made that clear. Fred Sanders Nov 2014 #9
From what I've seen, amnesty is hugely unpopular badtoworse Nov 2014 #7
Its un popular with white people Jim Beard Nov 2014 #11
There is not going to be an impeachment. badtoworse Nov 2014 #13
Yours seems like he most likely answer. The only thing I would add is ballyhoo Nov 2014 #22
No one believes he is giving us blanket amnesty. azmom Nov 2014 #36
Oh, I disagree...A large number of ballyhoo Nov 2014 #39
You said latinos believe that and we don't. azmom Nov 2014 #41
No, I did not. I suggest you reread the posts. Here: ballyhoo Nov 2014 #42
The undocumented workers that will be given amnesty azmom Nov 2014 #44
Those same undocumented workers who are given amnesty ballyhoo Nov 2014 #46
In order to qualify for amnesty, you azmom Nov 2014 #47
Non-deportation is amnesty without the bells and whistles, but ballyhoo Nov 2014 #50
We want more than that azmom Nov 2014 #54
Well, you should know next week. I don't think he will do it. Why would someone ballyhoo Nov 2014 #55
You do not seem to know azmom Nov 2014 #58
I live in Southern California. I know what is going on ballyhoo Nov 2014 #59
That is exactly correct. eom JEB Nov 2014 #63
You are wrong! azmom Nov 2014 #45
impeachment rtracey Nov 2014 #14
The GOP will lose the latinos from ... aggiesal Nov 2014 #25
really..... rtracey Nov 2014 #31
Only in red states azmom Nov 2014 #34
I thought the same as you, but I no longer think so. It will depend on ballyhoo Nov 2014 #49
I would think it's even less popular with Black people. badtoworse Nov 2014 #28
Latinos have made peace with our azmom Nov 2014 #35
It is very unpopular with them. At a 10.7 unemployement per cent they are ballyhoo Nov 2014 #51
Not true. Latinos and azmom Nov 2014 #56
Ah, the beautiful baby card...OK. I give up. ballyhoo Nov 2014 #57
There is no border crisis ... aggiesal Nov 2014 #24
Secure borders will never happen. azmom Nov 2014 #37
Except the borders have NEVER in the History of the USA been more secure. Bandit Nov 2014 #67
I seem to recall illegal immigrants crossing the Rio Grande on jet skis last summer. badtoworse Nov 2014 #69
ReTHUGS are fighting Obama on one front.. Segami Nov 2014 #16
One question. Savannahmann Nov 2014 #17
Would you provide a link to those numbers?nt Segami Nov 2014 #21
The full report is here. Savannahmann Nov 2014 #27
Those polling results Segami Nov 2014 #32
So True ConnorMarc Nov 2014 #70
six years of 12 d chess have been a huge winner for the president and the party Doctor_J Nov 2014 #18
Which Party is that, again??? blkmusclmachine Nov 2014 #20
Meh. blkmusclmachine Nov 2014 #19
I really don't see how this helps Democrats or Obama politically. w4rma Nov 2014 #26
It doesn't-- Good you've thought it through. ballyhoo Nov 2014 #43
Not only is Boner not going to bring It up.. but, he's warned the President he could get "burned" Cha Nov 2014 #29
Latinos are tired of waiting. azmom Nov 2014 #33
The President should use this issue to befuddle Republicans... kentuck Nov 2014 #48
But according to CNN savalez Nov 2014 #52
It's a good thing he didn't do this before the election. vi5 Nov 2014 #53
I'm dubious that amnesty mobilizes Latinos. w4rma Nov 2014 #60
Something though....didn't have to be amnesty. vi5 Nov 2014 #64
Don't know about the politics of this JEB Nov 2014 #61
Rec flamingdem Nov 2014 #62
Latinos largely support reform azmom Nov 2014 #65
"Latinos demand action not words" azmom Nov 2014 #66
From the Las Vegas, Nevada " El Sol" azmom Nov 2014 #68
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