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In reply to the discussion: Obama BOXES IN GOP On Immigration: 'Only One Thing' Will Stop EXECUTIVE ORDER [View all]Segami
(14,923 posts)16. ReTHUGS are fighting Obama on one front..
...while warding off the Ted Cruz 'stop-Obama-at-any-cost' mumblers of the party on another front. Turtle has his shell filled.
if reTHUGS can't stop Obama (legally), they will forever be tagged & preserved like pickles as the Anti-Immigrant Party......not good for 2016.
One quasi-challenge does stand out. Kris Kobach, the Kansas secretary of state, once represented a group of Immigration and Customs Enforcement officers in a suit against the program, but the case was ultimately dismissed on procedural grounds. It was never appealed.
Kobachs lawsuitlike his work behind Arizonas SB 1070 and other immigration laws across the United Stateswas especially engineered to bring down DACA on constitutional and federal law grounds, under the guise that the program somehow forced law-abiding immigration officers to violate their oath to uphold the laws of the United States.
A venerable argument, but it went nowhere in court.
This may explain why Boehner never bothered to sue Obama over DACA. Like his beleaguered lawsuit challenging the Obama administration over the implementation of the Affordable Care Actwhich he hasnt even fileda separate DACA lawsuit probably wouldve failed big time in court.
It wouldve failed because courts do not like to entertain political questions. Political questions are those involving the elected branchesCongress and the president. And DACA, a program involving Obamas broad discretion in enforcing immigration laws, has everything to do with Obamas powers as the nations top executive. But DACA is also related to Congress powers to pass immigration laws.
So whos right and whos wrong? Thats a dispute a federal judge would likely never settle, because a judges only task is to say what the law isnot to referee a power dispute between co-equal branches of government. Thats how separation of powers works.
And thats precisely why Obamas plan to use executive action on immigrationwithin the parameters of existing immigration lawposes no constitutional problems. So long as he acts in a manner consistent with his prosecutorial discretion to enforce or not enforce the laws, the courts wont get involved.
http://fusion.net/story/26225/analysis-executive-action-on-immigration-is-perfectly-legal/
Kobachs lawsuitlike his work behind Arizonas SB 1070 and other immigration laws across the United Stateswas especially engineered to bring down DACA on constitutional and federal law grounds, under the guise that the program somehow forced law-abiding immigration officers to violate their oath to uphold the laws of the United States.
A venerable argument, but it went nowhere in court.
This may explain why Boehner never bothered to sue Obama over DACA. Like his beleaguered lawsuit challenging the Obama administration over the implementation of the Affordable Care Actwhich he hasnt even fileda separate DACA lawsuit probably wouldve failed big time in court.
It wouldve failed because courts do not like to entertain political questions. Political questions are those involving the elected branchesCongress and the president. And DACA, a program involving Obamas broad discretion in enforcing immigration laws, has everything to do with Obamas powers as the nations top executive. But DACA is also related to Congress powers to pass immigration laws.
So whos right and whos wrong? Thats a dispute a federal judge would likely never settle, because a judges only task is to say what the law isnot to referee a power dispute between co-equal branches of government. Thats how separation of powers works.
And thats precisely why Obamas plan to use executive action on immigrationwithin the parameters of existing immigration lawposes no constitutional problems. So long as he acts in a manner consistent with his prosecutorial discretion to enforce or not enforce the laws, the courts wont get involved.
http://fusion.net/story/26225/analysis-executive-action-on-immigration-is-perfectly-legal/
If he doesnt move soon, his legacy is going to be one that is antithetical to human rights, Matos said. That moniker of deporter-in-chief will forever be stuck on him.
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Obama BOXES IN GOP On Immigration: 'Only One Thing' Will Stop EXECUTIVE ORDER [View all]
Segami
Nov 2014
OP
Based upon his cave on the Keystone pipeline, I'm not holding my breath for him to go big
BP2
Nov 2014
#1
You were supposed to KEEP supporting the President first, then he supports you. He made that clear.
Fred Sanders
Nov 2014
#9
Well, you should know next week. I don't think he will do it. Why would someone
ballyhoo
Nov 2014
#55
I seem to recall illegal immigrants crossing the Rio Grande on jet skis last summer.
badtoworse
Nov 2014
#69
six years of 12 d chess have been a huge winner for the president and the party
Doctor_J
Nov 2014
#18