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zipplewrath

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33. Waiting for the other shoe to drop

Mon Nov 10, 2014, 12:37 PM

Nov 2014

With Obama, I've learned to pay attention less to what he says, and more to what actually happens.

He mentioned the PO twice during speeches to congress, we saw how that turned out.

He was going to close Gitmo, then we found out he only wanted to move it.

He was against mandates before he was for them.

He was going to be out of Afghanistan, and then we found out that meant "all but 10K troops".

We'll see what actually happens. Most people who are passionate about this issues suspect it won't be what they want, despite anything he says.

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So the President comes out strongly for Net Neutrality and the silence is deafening. [View all] kelliekat44 Nov 2014 OP

What do you expect? gratuitous Nov 2014 #1

Actually it has been around for sometime and is an issue many Democrats have been on the wrong side. gordianot Nov 2014 #10

Net Neutrality? vdogg Nov 2014 #16

What? The issue of net neutrality has been around for MONTHS and Democrats certainly could have... Triana Nov 2014 #19

Because it was not GOP approved to run on it. n/t RKP5637 Nov 2014 #28

too true. n/t. okieinpain Nov 2014 #35

Look slike your sarcasm sailed over some heads. cyberswede Nov 2014 #31

Living in the land of Nike gratuitous Nov 2014 #55

gratuitous forgot the emoticon! Triana Nov 2014 #107

It's an issue we've been fighting for for YEARS. pnwmom Nov 2014 #42

I do, indeed, see... onyourleft Nov 2014 #65

You forgot the sarcasm emoticon! n/t tech3149 Nov 2014 #66

HOORAY, but I am ticked off at my internet provider for false advertising when I up graded to 60 meg gordianot Nov 2014 #2

No way. We all know he is working secretly to screw us. {sarcasm thingie} n/t Hoyt Nov 2014 #3

Democrats cannot do anything good!!!!1! shenmue Nov 2014 #8

Kinda funny that he makes it an issue now. Had he made it an issue before the election, it might rhett o rick Nov 2014 #95

OK. I guess his comments in the 2013 State of the Union Speech did not happen. Hoyt Nov 2014 #100

Actions speak louder than words. He appointed Tom Wheeler. That's an action. rhett o rick Nov 2014 #105

One expects Commissioners to be familiar with industry, and Obama just gave him marching orders. Hoyt Nov 2014 #108

Wheeler already tried to scuttle net neutrality. Public outcry alone stopped him, not the rhett o rick Nov 2014 #113

Further clarification: He's also telling them to scrap their fast lanes plan... Ykcutnek Nov 2014 #4

There's a thread in LBN that's going strong... riderinthestorm Nov 2014 #5

Seriously. Hissyspit Nov 2014 #116

Nice but other things are so very Autumn Nov 2014 #6

Explain Tom Wheeler to me tkmorris Nov 2014 #7

He works at the pleasure of the President. Ykcutnek Nov 2014 #14

You need to brush up on the meaning of an "independent agency" truebluegreen Nov 2014 #110

Only kvetching gets noticed at the new DU... SidDithers Nov 2014 #9

This is the poster that blamed LGBT voters for the election losses on Wednesday morning. Bluenorthwest Nov 2014 #25

Wow. Marr Nov 2014 #32

It's sad that such posters remain viable among certain segments of DU in spite of such open hate Bluenorthwest Nov 2014 #40

OMG Puglover Nov 2014 #63

Take one back to the halcyon days of ponies and vipers. n/t QC Nov 2014 #67

I'm surprised the poster Puglover Nov 2014 #70

Must have gotten deleted too soon for that. n/t QC Nov 2014 #71

Ms. Plenty of Rights has posted an endorsement of this thread, of course Bluenorthwest Nov 2014 #76

Of course. Puglover Nov 2014 #92

Welcome to the club! .. 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2014 #97

Whoa. That is fucked up. Luminous Animal Nov 2014 #45

I had missed that. (Wow.) deurbano Nov 2014 #53

Now, now, maybe she just had "bad information"... WorseBeforeBetter Nov 2014 #74

Disgusting. BeanMusical Nov 2014 #77

One in a long litany of sins against liberalism. Scuba Nov 2014 #90

Yes in fact, saying anything positive treestar Nov 2014 #60

Hey people upthread were talking about you and your 'plenty of rights' posts Bluenorthwest Nov 2014 #79

You've been called an authoritarian ass kisser? BeanMusical Nov 2014 #88

BeanMusical? Sounds like some kind of twist on VanillaRhapsody... WorseBeforeBetter Nov 2014 #98

Lol! BeanMusical Nov 2014 #120

Mmm hmm. I was going to say welcome, WorseBeforeBetter Nov 2014 #121

Since he appointed Tom Wheeler, a lobbyist for cable companies, as head of the FCC, djean111 Nov 2014 #11

How come everyone doesn't think rationally like this? stillwaiting Nov 2014 #21

The internet should be treated like the physical superhighways Ampersand Unicode Nov 2014 #39

EXACTLY! staggerleem Nov 2014 #91

+2 Octafish Nov 2014 #36

This.^ historylovr Nov 2014 #38

++ n/t Kermitt Gribble Nov 2014 #118

I have a feeling the next 20 months or so are going to suck here on DU. Royally. Brother Buzz Nov 2014 #12

there is this thread already getting attention and recs NRaleighLiberal Nov 2014 #13

You have an odd definition of "silence" jeff47 Nov 2014 #15

DU needs at least 20 threads on something important these days. NRaleighLiberal Nov 2014 #18

The OP has a few 'odd' thoughts. Here's one from Wed morning Bluenorthwest Nov 2014 #26

An inconvenient truth. I pointed that out upthread as well. riderinthestorm Nov 2014 #56

I posted it almost immediately after it happened. Hissyspit Nov 2014 #117

Talk is cheap, I'll be impressed when he MAKES THEM DO IT. nt Zorra Nov 2014 #17

That's the thing. Once again, it's a great statement, but it's certainly not the *policy* yet villager Nov 2014 #23

FCC is an independent agency. truebluegreen Nov 2014 #111

If I didn't have the internet I wouldn't have much Baitball Blogger Nov 2014 #20

I hear ya Ampersand Unicode Nov 2014 #43

Oh, hell, I talk to myself on a daily basis. Baitball Blogger Nov 2014 #49

I came from a similar place as you. JoeyT Nov 2014 #61

You sound like a nerdfighter azmom Nov 2014 #94

Video ... Triana Nov 2014 #22

does anyone know the timetable for the FCC to rule on this? Takket Nov 2014 #24

kick Blue_Tires Nov 2014 #27

They're too busy insisting that the U.S. sit out ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2014 #41

Maybe some were actually posting in and reccing the other threads that were up before Luminous Animal Nov 2014 #83

If you say so. eom. 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2014 #96

Posted by Hissyspit at 6:39 AM 42 recs. Luminous Animal Nov 2014 #99

If you say so. eom. 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2014 #102

this is what the OP you praise wrote on Wednesday morning: Bluenorthwest Nov 2014 #101

That's terribly inappropriate and factually incorrect ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2014 #103

If you say so. Bluenorthwest Nov 2014 #112

I say so ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2014 #114

There were 2 OPs about this before this disgusting DU member bashing thread. Luminous Animal Nov 2014 #81

The president has just shown Dems how to win, maybe. Orsino Nov 2014 #29

I oppose it, so. Puzzledtraveller Nov 2014 #30

Waiting for the other shoe to drop zipplewrath Nov 2014 #33

Yours is the best post here. I'm already studying ballyhoo Nov 2014 #44

Praise would be premature-- especially with this president. Marr Nov 2014 #34

He was for net neutraility rocktivity Nov 2014 #37

I just heard about it 20 seconds ago. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Nov 2014 #46

There were already two threads posted on the topic before the OP decided to bash DUers. Luminous Animal Nov 2014 #78

I'm sure Jane Hamsher and Cenk will be effusive in their praise bluestateguy Nov 2014 #47

We'll be waiting a long time. blue neen Nov 2014 #64

Cenk is supportive. He's retweeting the news in his twitter timeline. Luminous Animal Nov 2014 #80

What silence? nt. RedCappedBandit Nov 2014 #48

Another winning issue if the Democrats hadn't gone mute besides bragging about how they also opposed world wide wally Nov 2014 #50

Talk is cheap. We'll see what actually happens. He sometimes "evolves" on issue. HERVEPA Nov 2014 #51

Yeah, FCC Chair and former industry lobbyist, Wheeler, says the same thing. merrily Nov 2014 #52

We'll see. I have no faith in Obama Android3.14 Nov 2014 #54

Huh? It's all over the internet (gamespot, cnnfn, reddit, etc.). Dawgs Nov 2014 #57

Nice whine. GeorgeGist Nov 2014 #58

obama appoints net neutrality opponent to the FCC - his actions belie his words nt msongs Nov 2014 #59

Well it is said talk is cheap and it is true. zeemike Nov 2014 #62

Wheeler is lying just like Obama. Hoyt Nov 2014 #68

"John Oliver’s net neutrality rant may have caused FCC site crash" WorseBeforeBetter Nov 2014 #69

We've learned to NOT read his lips. I will wait and see how much effort... SaveOurDemocracy Nov 2014 #72

I totally oppose turning the Internet into a public utility. cherokeeprogressive Nov 2014 #73

Only 80 recs and counting. That must mean that people don't care n/t eridani Nov 2014 #75

The President cuts the deficit in half and the silence from MSM is deafening. blm Nov 2014 #82

The President cuts unemployment in half and the silence from the MSM is deafening. blm Nov 2014 #84

The President and SecKerry's plan for ISIL is working and the MSM silence is deafening. blm Nov 2014 #85

President's Affordable Care Act HAS been successful and the silence from MSM is deafening. blm Nov 2014 #86

Bully pulpit, pretty speech!!!! JoePhilly Nov 2014 #87

He didn't do it fast enough, loud enough and he doesn't agree with me enough. pampango Nov 2014 #89

Code Pink's Medea Benjamin praised him for this on facebook. m-lekktor Nov 2014 #93

I'm happy that he came out for it. yurbud Nov 2014 #104

We're waiting to see what he TBF Nov 2014 #106

N/M. WinkyDink Nov 2014 #109

What am I, chopped liver? Hissyspit Nov 2014 #115

Uh, it's at the top of the greatest page!!! grahamhgreen Nov 2014 #119

Kick...nt SidDithers Nov 2014 #122