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63. Bernie said he may run as a Democrat on MTP this year. I would support him in the primary, because

Thu Nov 13, 2014, 08:23 PM

Nov 2014

I want to see the debate that would take place and want his ideas given a thorough hearing. I want the Democratic Party to define itself in more concrete terms the way Sanders does. We need to thrash out many things in public to educate voters. I don't want to hear slogans and euphemisms.

I do not expect him to win the primary, and he would not win the general.
Like you, I will vote for whoever wins our party's nomination in the general.
But I will not support him if he goes on the attack against other Democrats, which he has not done. If he sticks to the ideals and I think he will, fine.

Sad to say, none of the choices in the OP are the same caliber as Obama and I don't think any of them have a good chance to win the general bar something that will make people think. The MSM ensures most of them don't think at all.

JMHO.

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If the following take part in the Democratic Primaries, whom would you vote for today? [View all] Elmer S. E. Dump Nov 2014 OP

One is NOT a Democrat for sure... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #1

Bernie is not a Democrat Elmer S. E. Dump Nov 2014 #4

nope you cannot say that.....you don't know... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #5

Yes I can say that, Bernie has already intimated it. Elmer S. E. Dump Nov 2014 #7

He is considering it....he hasn't "intimated" anything.... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #11

Alright! I'll google it for you! Elmer S. E. Dump Nov 2014 #15

"considering it" VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #16

Caucusing with Dems is not the same thing Skidmore Nov 2014 #39

Can we just stick to the Poll question. Elmer S. E. Dump Nov 2014 #51

Why? In most states, party affiliation must be declared to Skidmore Nov 2014 #60

But the assumption built into the question is that Bernie is running as a Democrat! Elmer S. E. Dump Nov 2014 #71

Why should that be assumed. Skidmore Nov 2014 #72

For the same reason the same assumption is made about everyone else on the list. Jim Lane Nov 2014 #79

That's been occuring to me too. The grief I've taken for a simple fun poll!!! Elmer S. E. Dump Nov 2014 #87

Why are they so worried? Enthusiast Nov 2014 #102

Hilarious Hillary Homers are scared shitless of Bernie Sanders. Elmer S. E. Dump Nov 2014 #107

I don't recall stating that I was supporting anyone Skidmore Nov 2014 #88

Yes, in most states a party affiliation needs to be established, but so does a willingness to run. Jim Lane Nov 2014 #100

That is my RIGHT as the creator of the poll - you needn't respond to it. Elmer S. E. Dump Nov 2014 #86

Ever feel like you are being double teamed? Enthusiast Nov 2014 #101

Sometimes this place seems more like F/R... Elmer S. E. Dump Nov 2014 #106

Jumping Jim Jeffords,Republican-turned-Independent out of VT (also), caucused with the Dems as well. MADem Nov 2014 #77

For the purposes of the poll, LWolf Nov 2014 #10

why? VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #14

Anyone can speculate about anything at any time. LWolf Nov 2014 #19

so WILL YOU vote for him if he doesn't? VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #20

How would I? LWolf Nov 2014 #27

Okay...you just proved WHY he doesn't belong on the poll... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #30

No, if you only have facts established TODAY, this poll would be empty with no options... cascadiance Nov 2014 #54

and he is NOT a Democrat...that is NOT SPECULATION!!!! VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #55

People like you say that Hillary is "inevitable" because it is LIKELY she will run... cascadiance Nov 2014 #57

NO I have NEVER used that word...EVER.... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #58

This is a useless conversation... cascadiance Nov 2014 #61

no anything that iSnt Democratic... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #67

. LWolf Nov 2014 #66

That WASN'T the question posed by this poll! cascadiance Nov 2014 #29

but it is NOT speculation that he is TODAY NOT a Democrat....and we are talking TODAY! VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #32

Saying he he could be a Democrat is just as real as saying that Hillary Clinton IS NOW running too! cascadiance Nov 2014 #34

No...because she IS a Democrat.... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #36

But like everyone on this list SHE IS NOT RUNNING T-O-D-A-Y!!!!! cascadiance Nov 2014 #43

but these are Democrats...and WE are Democrats... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #45

And if you think that most disaffected and oppressed progressive Democrats won't accept him... cascadiance Nov 2014 #50

+1,000 Scuba Nov 2014 #52

If you think you are like most Democrats.. VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #85

You are the mistaken one. Thanks for completely hijacking my thread. Elmer S. E. Dump Nov 2014 #89

+1 QC Nov 2014 #118

+1 an entire shit load. Enthusiast Nov 2014 #104

I am he as you are he as you are me and we are all together. BeanMusical Nov 2014 #84

We're talking of hypothetical and fun polls to see where the wind is blowing on DU. LanternWaste Nov 2014 #98

Why the extreme reaction? Chemisse Nov 2014 #40

Since when is reality an extreme position? VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #41

Since when is your opinion "reality"?! cascadiance Nov 2014 #47

Pffft! Enthusiast Nov 2014 #105

Shhh BlindTiresias Nov 2014 #46

If you don't like the poll don't participate in it. Ignore it. Enthusiast Nov 2014 #103

Why do you people do this? Do you think DUers are actually stupid enough to believe you? ieoeja Nov 2014 #108

Bernie said he may run as a Democrat on MTP this year. I would support him in the primary, because freshwest Nov 2014 #63

Hey vanilla BlindTiresias Nov 2014 #37

deal with what? VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #38

Lol BlindTiresias Nov 2014 #44

Lol. Awesome. Union Scribe Nov 2014 #109

1. Bernie hifiguy Nov 2014 #2

My pick does not want to run... Kalidurga Nov 2014 #3

Clinton has my vote!! Laf.La.Dem. Nov 2014 #6

Hillary has me in her corner. hrmjustin Nov 2014 #8

Too damned early for 2016 straw polls. longship Nov 2014 #9

This isn't a straw poll Elmer S. E. Dump Nov 2014 #90

When Bernie sanders joins the party, I wll consider changing my primary vote. Agnosticsherbet Nov 2014 #12

IF! VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #21

I don't vote for If. Agnosticsherbet Nov 2014 #33

"considering".....that is the very definition of "IF"! VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #35

I think the Democratic Party, especially most of us on the left, put too much stock in ideal Agnosticsherbet Nov 2014 #48

Exactly...and THAT is the problem! VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #49

Berinie Sanders may not be a Democrat (today) Elmer S. E. Dump Nov 2014 #91

Nobody for Clooney? He'd play a very presidential POTUS. Elmer S. E. Dump Nov 2014 #13

I'd be down with that, but the moment he meddled in South Sudan for any reason... Ykcutnek Nov 2014 #18

I don't have my mind made up. Ykcutnek Nov 2014 #17

Sorry the poll says "today". You have to decide if you had to vote today. Elmer S. E. Dump Nov 2014 #22

I don't care...any of them....I want to WIN! VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #25

I agree. I like them all. Ykcutnek Nov 2014 #26

I think we will win if we can express ourselves well in the primary. I think Sanders will give HRC freshwest Nov 2014 #64

Interesting. Let me ask you a follow-up question. Jim Lane Nov 2014 #80

Good luck with that.... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #83

Should we qall have to cow-tow to you opinion? Elmer S. E. Dump Nov 2014 #92

do you want to win? VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #97

So HRC is the only person in the world. Elmer S. E. Dump Nov 2014 #99

I'd still support Hillary if she won, but, TBH..... AverageJoe90 Nov 2014 #23

In the general, I vote for the Democrat Elmer S. E. Dump Nov 2014 #94

But you didn't include Warren. amandabeech Nov 2014 #24

I was seriously considering her. But she seems so against it. So I didn't. Elmer S. E. Dump Nov 2014 #31

I'm going with Al. jmowreader Nov 2014 #28

Dean (nt) bigwillq Nov 2014 #42

Sanders 1% Clinton 64% arely staircase Nov 2014 #53

In the real world Aerows Nov 2014 #111

wtf are my "beloved third partiers"? nt arely staircase Nov 2014 #112

What do you think I mean? Aerows Nov 2014 #113

I haven't the slightest idea who my "beloved third partiers" to whom you refer arely staircase Nov 2014 #116

Glad I stand out. n/t Aerows Nov 2014 #117

Robert Downey Jr. frazzled Nov 2014 #56

Iron Man for president! cascadiance Nov 2014 #59

Hell yeah!! :-) RiverLover Nov 2014 #75

I voted for Sanders, but I wonder why Elizabeth Warren wasn't included in the poll. Louisiana1976 Nov 2014 #62

Same here. Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Nov 2014 #65

Well, that would split the left. ozone_man Nov 2014 #68

Bernie! Bernie! Because Liz isn't going to run, unless she changes her mind Autumn Nov 2014 #69

Bernie Sanders by a mile. PeteSelman Nov 2014 #70

No fair Generic Brad Nov 2014 #73

I'd change parties to vote for Bernie. JEB Nov 2014 #74

Write ins: Elizabeth Warren, Sherrod Brown ~nt RiverLover Nov 2014 #76

I didn't include them because they've strongly said they won't run. Elmer S. E. Dump Nov 2014 #95

Bernie Sanders if he runs as a Democrat. Jamastiene Nov 2014 #78

Where is Warren? libman100 Nov 2014 #81

She said she won't run - otherwise she'd be there absolutely. Elmer S. E. Dump Nov 2014 #96

Just curious -- why did you omit Martin O'Malley? Jim Lane Nov 2014 #82

Martin O'Malley Aerows Nov 2014 #114

That was easy! Old Nick Nov 2014 #93

Bump for Bernie. nt silvershadow Nov 2014 #110

Dean, always Dean LostInAnomie Nov 2014 #115

Write in for Warren as VP. ozone_man Nov 2014 #119