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Jim Lane

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80. Interesting. Let me ask you a follow-up question.

Fri Nov 14, 2014, 12:47 AM

Nov 2014

You write, "I go with who looks like they can beat the shit out of the Republicans...."

Does that mean that if, by the time of your state's primary, some Democratic candidate other than Hillary Clinton is polling the best against the leading Republican contenders, you would vote for that other Democratic candidate rather than for Clinton?

I ask because you have been among the most fervent Clinton supporters here -- quite possibly the most fervent. Your post, however, seems to open up at least the possibility of your not voting for her, which is why I'm curious.

BTW, by "Democratic candidate" I mean a card-carrying member of the Democratic Party, registered to vote as a Democrat (if registered in a state that allows voters to declare a party).

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If the following take part in the Democratic Primaries, whom would you vote for today? [View all] Elmer S. E. Dump Nov 2014 OP

One is NOT a Democrat for sure... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #1

Bernie is not a Democrat Elmer S. E. Dump Nov 2014 #4

nope you cannot say that.....you don't know... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #5

Yes I can say that, Bernie has already intimated it. Elmer S. E. Dump Nov 2014 #7

He is considering it....he hasn't "intimated" anything.... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #11

Alright! I'll google it for you! Elmer S. E. Dump Nov 2014 #15

"considering it" VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #16

Caucusing with Dems is not the same thing Skidmore Nov 2014 #39

Can we just stick to the Poll question. Elmer S. E. Dump Nov 2014 #51

Why? In most states, party affiliation must be declared to Skidmore Nov 2014 #60

But the assumption built into the question is that Bernie is running as a Democrat! Elmer S. E. Dump Nov 2014 #71

Why should that be assumed. Skidmore Nov 2014 #72

For the same reason the same assumption is made about everyone else on the list. Jim Lane Nov 2014 #79

That's been occuring to me too. The grief I've taken for a simple fun poll!!! Elmer S. E. Dump Nov 2014 #87

Why are they so worried? Enthusiast Nov 2014 #102

Hilarious Hillary Homers are scared shitless of Bernie Sanders. Elmer S. E. Dump Nov 2014 #107

I don't recall stating that I was supporting anyone Skidmore Nov 2014 #88

Yes, in most states a party affiliation needs to be established, but so does a willingness to run. Jim Lane Nov 2014 #100

That is my RIGHT as the creator of the poll - you needn't respond to it. Elmer S. E. Dump Nov 2014 #86

Ever feel like you are being double teamed? Enthusiast Nov 2014 #101

Sometimes this place seems more like F/R... Elmer S. E. Dump Nov 2014 #106

Jumping Jim Jeffords,Republican-turned-Independent out of VT (also), caucused with the Dems as well. MADem Nov 2014 #77

For the purposes of the poll, LWolf Nov 2014 #10

why? VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #14

Anyone can speculate about anything at any time. LWolf Nov 2014 #19

so WILL YOU vote for him if he doesn't? VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #20

How would I? LWolf Nov 2014 #27

Okay...you just proved WHY he doesn't belong on the poll... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #30

No, if you only have facts established TODAY, this poll would be empty with no options... cascadiance Nov 2014 #54

and he is NOT a Democrat...that is NOT SPECULATION!!!! VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #55

People like you say that Hillary is "inevitable" because it is LIKELY she will run... cascadiance Nov 2014 #57

NO I have NEVER used that word...EVER.... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #58

This is a useless conversation... cascadiance Nov 2014 #61

no anything that iSnt Democratic... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #67

. LWolf Nov 2014 #66

That WASN'T the question posed by this poll! cascadiance Nov 2014 #29

but it is NOT speculation that he is TODAY NOT a Democrat....and we are talking TODAY! VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #32

Saying he he could be a Democrat is just as real as saying that Hillary Clinton IS NOW running too! cascadiance Nov 2014 #34

No...because she IS a Democrat.... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #36

But like everyone on this list SHE IS NOT RUNNING T-O-D-A-Y!!!!! cascadiance Nov 2014 #43

but these are Democrats...and WE are Democrats... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #45

And if you think that most disaffected and oppressed progressive Democrats won't accept him... cascadiance Nov 2014 #50

+1,000 Scuba Nov 2014 #52

If you think you are like most Democrats.. VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #85

You are the mistaken one. Thanks for completely hijacking my thread. Elmer S. E. Dump Nov 2014 #89

+1 QC Nov 2014 #118

+1 an entire shit load. Enthusiast Nov 2014 #104

I am he as you are he as you are me and we are all together. BeanMusical Nov 2014 #84

We're talking of hypothetical and fun polls to see where the wind is blowing on DU. LanternWaste Nov 2014 #98

Why the extreme reaction? Chemisse Nov 2014 #40

Since when is reality an extreme position? VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #41

Since when is your opinion "reality"?! cascadiance Nov 2014 #47

Pffft! Enthusiast Nov 2014 #105

Shhh BlindTiresias Nov 2014 #46

If you don't like the poll don't participate in it. Ignore it. Enthusiast Nov 2014 #103

Why do you people do this? Do you think DUers are actually stupid enough to believe you? ieoeja Nov 2014 #108

Bernie said he may run as a Democrat on MTP this year. I would support him in the primary, because freshwest Nov 2014 #63

Hey vanilla BlindTiresias Nov 2014 #37

deal with what? VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #38

Lol BlindTiresias Nov 2014 #44

Lol. Awesome. Union Scribe Nov 2014 #109

1. Bernie hifiguy Nov 2014 #2

My pick does not want to run... Kalidurga Nov 2014 #3

Clinton has my vote!! Laf.La.Dem. Nov 2014 #6

Hillary has me in her corner. hrmjustin Nov 2014 #8

Too damned early for 2016 straw polls. longship Nov 2014 #9

This isn't a straw poll Elmer S. E. Dump Nov 2014 #90

When Bernie sanders joins the party, I wll consider changing my primary vote. Agnosticsherbet Nov 2014 #12

IF! VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #21

I don't vote for If. Agnosticsherbet Nov 2014 #33

"considering".....that is the very definition of "IF"! VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #35

I think the Democratic Party, especially most of us on the left, put too much stock in ideal Agnosticsherbet Nov 2014 #48

Exactly...and THAT is the problem! VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #49

Berinie Sanders may not be a Democrat (today) Elmer S. E. Dump Nov 2014 #91

Nobody for Clooney? He'd play a very presidential POTUS. Elmer S. E. Dump Nov 2014 #13

I'd be down with that, but the moment he meddled in South Sudan for any reason... Ykcutnek Nov 2014 #18

I don't have my mind made up. Ykcutnek Nov 2014 #17

Sorry the poll says "today". You have to decide if you had to vote today. Elmer S. E. Dump Nov 2014 #22

I don't care...any of them....I want to WIN! VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #25

I agree. I like them all. Ykcutnek Nov 2014 #26

I think we will win if we can express ourselves well in the primary. I think Sanders will give HRC freshwest Nov 2014 #64

Interesting. Let me ask you a follow-up question. Jim Lane Nov 2014 #80

Good luck with that.... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #83

Should we qall have to cow-tow to you opinion? Elmer S. E. Dump Nov 2014 #92

do you want to win? VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #97

So HRC is the only person in the world. Elmer S. E. Dump Nov 2014 #99

I'd still support Hillary if she won, but, TBH..... AverageJoe90 Nov 2014 #23

In the general, I vote for the Democrat Elmer S. E. Dump Nov 2014 #94

But you didn't include Warren. amandabeech Nov 2014 #24

I was seriously considering her. But she seems so against it. So I didn't. Elmer S. E. Dump Nov 2014 #31

I'm going with Al. jmowreader Nov 2014 #28

Dean (nt) bigwillq Nov 2014 #42

Sanders 1% Clinton 64% arely staircase Nov 2014 #53

In the real world Aerows Nov 2014 #111

wtf are my "beloved third partiers"? nt arely staircase Nov 2014 #112

What do you think I mean? Aerows Nov 2014 #113

I haven't the slightest idea who my "beloved third partiers" to whom you refer arely staircase Nov 2014 #116

Glad I stand out. n/t Aerows Nov 2014 #117

Robert Downey Jr. frazzled Nov 2014 #56

Iron Man for president! cascadiance Nov 2014 #59

Hell yeah!! :-) RiverLover Nov 2014 #75

I voted for Sanders, but I wonder why Elizabeth Warren wasn't included in the poll. Louisiana1976 Nov 2014 #62

Same here. Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Nov 2014 #65

Well, that would split the left. ozone_man Nov 2014 #68

Bernie! Bernie! Because Liz isn't going to run, unless she changes her mind Autumn Nov 2014 #69

Bernie Sanders by a mile. PeteSelman Nov 2014 #70

No fair Generic Brad Nov 2014 #73

I'd change parties to vote for Bernie. JEB Nov 2014 #74

Write ins: Elizabeth Warren, Sherrod Brown ~nt RiverLover Nov 2014 #76

I didn't include them because they've strongly said they won't run. Elmer S. E. Dump Nov 2014 #95

Bernie Sanders if he runs as a Democrat. Jamastiene Nov 2014 #78

Where is Warren? libman100 Nov 2014 #81

She said she won't run - otherwise she'd be there absolutely. Elmer S. E. Dump Nov 2014 #96

Just curious -- why did you omit Martin O'Malley? Jim Lane Nov 2014 #82

Martin O'Malley Aerows Nov 2014 #114

That was easy! Old Nick Nov 2014 #93

Bump for Bernie. nt silvershadow Nov 2014 #110

Dean, always Dean LostInAnomie Nov 2014 #115

Write in for Warren as VP. ozone_man Nov 2014 #119