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F4lconF16

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Fri Nov 14, 2014, 06:30 PM Nov 2014

I'm in tears after a conversation with a woman on the bus. [View all]

I was sitting a little ways away from her when a soldier got on board and sat next to her. She started talking to him, and I was kinda listening in on their conversation. He was back after a 3 year tour of duty, and wasn't sure when he'd ship out next. She has a son in Afghanistan, and I don't think the soldier noticed, but just talking to him was hard for her. He got off, and a little bit later I could see she was beginning to cry.

It took me a couple minutes, but I got up the courage to go talk to her. I told her I wasn't sure it would make her feel any better, but there are some of us out there who are dedicating our lives to stopping the wars, to making it so that no one has to go through what she has. She half-smiled at this, and we began talking. She asked me what I was studying, what I was doing with my life, and then she told me about her son.

She said that he said only three words about the war: "It was nothing". And that's all he would ever tell her. She said that he got a bronze medal, or something like that (she wasn't completely sure). Apparently he asked her if she knew why he received it, and when she said no, he told her he got it for killing someone. And she almost broke down into tears again, saying "I didn't raise my son to kill people". She didn't blame him, but...how can you not be broken by that? Your son has killed someone. But, she said, he brought back all 35 of his men without injury, and the pride shone through the sorrow. She has friends whose sons weren't so lucky, and she's proud that he kept that from happening to other people's sons.

The whole time, her eyes spoke so much more than her words. She said she knows that he fought and killed someone for nothing, that the war is for nothing, that her son could have died for profit and bigotry. She said that her votes counted for nothing, that the people she helps elect just turn and look the other way (Democrats, I might add. This woman understands what's going on). She knows that they won't do a damn thing to help her. She knows.

And the look in her eyes tore me apart.

Fuck war.

Fuck the people who make war.

And fuck the people that support them.

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Thank you. H2O Man Nov 2014 #1
All life is sacred. When will the war makers see this!? Dont call me Shirley Nov 2014 #2
They won't... awoke_in_2003 Nov 2014 #5
The war makers are sociopaths FiveGoodMen Nov 2014 #26
and the profits they line their pockets with. lastlib Nov 2014 #42
It's too bad ISIS doesn't see it that way. woolldog Nov 2014 #37
Fuck them too. n/t Martin Eden Nov 2014 #40
They won't. They only see this: Initech Nov 2014 #43
"And it's 1, 2, 3 what are we fighting for? Whoopee, I don't give a damn, MoonRiver Nov 2014 #3
5, 6, 7, open up the Pearly gates... awoke_in_2003 Nov 2014 #6
What song is that? F4lconF16 Nov 2014 #7
From Country Joe and the Fish awoke_in_2003 Nov 2014 #10
Vietnam era. Here ya go: Comrade Grumpy Nov 2014 #13
Thank you. nt F4lconF16 Nov 2014 #16
here is the Woodstock performance (language alert) awoke_in_2003 Nov 2014 #18
I was only four years old at the liberalhistorian Nov 2014 #48
I was 1 awoke_in_2003 Nov 2014 #51
I share your utter disgust, dismay and disbelief. Enthusiast Nov 2014 #60
Feel Like I'm Fixin' To Die Rag Smarmie Doofus Nov 2014 #14
"Feel like I'm fixin' to die rag" Doc_Technical Nov 2014 #15
Allow me . . . Brigid Nov 2014 #17
These are ALL great. Sad, and discouraging. But still great. calimary Nov 2014 #35
That was great! PatrickforO Nov 2014 #63
Yep, it really resonates now. MoonRiver Nov 2014 #38
Damn, I used to have that vinyl album by Country Joe and the Fish! Great song. nt Hekate Nov 2014 #54
The insanity just doesn't stop. Brigid Nov 2014 #4
Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2014 #31
It really does liberalhistorian Nov 2014 #49
Hope her son can find a way to atone for the killing he did phil89 Nov 2014 #8
From what she said and her tone of voice F4lconF16 Nov 2014 #11
thank you for extending yourself onethatcares Nov 2014 #9
We take everything from the vulnerable in our society GeoWilliam750 Nov 2014 #12
Thank you for giving us a personal tribute tavernier Nov 2014 #19
An F-16 would make a wonderful private jet seveneyes Nov 2014 #20
I was going to be an aerospace engineer for as long as I can remember. F4lconF16 Nov 2014 #23
Same here caraher Nov 2014 #57
My original soft spot was always for the F-15. F4lconF16 Nov 2014 #58
Just following interests... caraher Nov 2014 #59
Here's another lyric from a great old song moonbeam23 Nov 2014 #21
Blame the yuppies and Reagan "Democrats" FiveGoodMen Nov 2014 #28
"War is organised murder" nxylas Nov 2014 #22
State-sanctioned liberalhistorian Nov 2014 #50
My heart breaks for that mother. democrank Nov 2014 #24
Periodically I listen to "War Pigs" by Black Sabbath CaptainTruth Nov 2014 #25
I think that's one of my all time favorites. F4lconF16 Nov 2014 #27
That whole album (Paranoid) was pretty good FiveGoodMen Nov 2014 #32
Agreed. F4lconF16 Nov 2014 #33
Burning metal through the atmosphere seveneyes Nov 2014 #34
I love Black Sabbath, that song speaks the truth! Initech Nov 2014 #44
George W Bush owes her and others (myself included) a lifetime of apologies and compensation randys1 Nov 2014 #29
K&R woo me with science Nov 2014 #30
A sad but lovely post malaise Nov 2014 #36
What is the populist alternative to war? SleeplessinSoCal Nov 2014 #39
Probably the best questions I've read on DU for a long, long time. freshwest Nov 2014 #41
I posted in the new Populist Reform Group earlier today about international efforts. F4lconF16 Nov 2014 #46
The populist alternative to war is policies that promote social, environmental and economic justice. PatrickforO Nov 2014 #65
If you're implying that Iraq was invaded to counter radicalized young people, Arugula Latte Nov 2014 #66
In 2003 the Iraq invasion was criminal. And the aftermath a disaster. SleeplessinSoCal Nov 2014 #70
"... he got it for killing someone." dflprincess Nov 2014 #45
Bless that woman and her son, and bless you. crim son Nov 2014 #47
Most wars are unnecessary on our part. Not all. True Blue Door Nov 2014 #52
Among the best posts I've ever read on DU... Surya Gayatri Nov 2014 #55
It's interesting that no one has yet commented that he brought his whole unit back alive Hekate Nov 2014 #53
I think his mother knows. F4lconF16 Nov 2014 #56
This always gets to me. albino65 Nov 2014 #61
Beautiful post, but very sad. PatrickforO Nov 2014 #62
This: 99Forever Nov 2014 #64
We can have a war against terrorists but we can't have a war on "terror" GreatGazoo Nov 2014 #67
God bless you for talking with her MannyGoldstein Nov 2014 #68
This is one area of society where young men are totally exploited undeterred Nov 2014 #69
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