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Ken Burch

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24. It doesn't mean expecting to PASS it in the next two years, for God's sakes.

Sat Nov 15, 2014, 01:13 AM

Nov 2014

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It means getting it out there to, among other things, build ACTIVE grassroots support and involvement and for the next elections.

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Let's start the push now for single-payer. [View all] silvershadow Nov 2014 OP

Agree 100%! Kath1 Nov 2014 #1

That should have been the goal to begin with Wella Nov 2014 #12

It was the goal to begin with, and remains the goal. ACA was a step. True Blue Door Nov 2014 #22

Keep telling yourself that as Anthem and Kaiser run away with obscene amounts of lucre Wella Nov 2014 #49

While you're planning your Perfect System, do you think maybe we mere mortals True Blue Door Nov 2014 #60

Don't come crying when your rates go up. Wella Nov 2014 #62

Except rates have gone down, across the board. True Blue Door Nov 2014 #66

New York Times: Cost of Coverage Under Afforable Care Act to Increase in 2015 Wella Nov 2014 #68

Ah yes, "many Americans." Akin to "some say." True Blue Door Nov 2014 #69

It's the New York Times, kid. Wella Nov 2014 #70

Ah yes, the "liberal media" paper of record that endorsed the Iraq War. True Blue Door Nov 2014 #74

Actually the Obama administration admitted prices were going up in 2015 according to Wella Nov 2014 #75

There's that "many Americans" bullshit again. True Blue Door Nov 2014 #78

Step 1. Make insurance cartel a too big to fail AND require patronage 2. ??? TheKentuckian Nov 2014 #51

You people keep talking about ideals that exist only in your imagination True Blue Door Nov 2014 #61

No, it was asserted that the ACA is a step toward single payer. No sense getting huffy when asked TheKentuckian Nov 2014 #65

Millions of people who couldn't have access to healthcare now do thanks to ACA. True Blue Door Nov 2014 #67

You are apparently responding to questions other than the ones posed to you TheKentuckian Nov 2014 #73

Thank you. Wella Nov 2014 #71

Yes get them out UglyGreed Nov 2014 #30

Clearly, everyone has forgotten who takes over yeoman6987 Nov 2014 #76

I can think of a couple of things to add Prophet 451 Nov 2014 #2

+1000! Rhiannon12866 Nov 2014 #6

Addition to the animal abuser registry idea: Ken Burch Nov 2014 #23

Now that we've got a Repuke controlled Congress customerserviceguy Nov 2014 #3

Well, at least that will put them on the defense and maybe Live and Learn Nov 2014 #7

repukes will NEVER quit trying to f*** the non-rich American people Skittles Nov 2014 #9

Which is why we have to keep them busy with new demands. nt Live and Learn Nov 2014 #10

And this ^ was largely my point. If we don't push back, we keep sliding rightward. Enough inching silvershadow Nov 2014 #39

I got it and I agree. Live and Learn Nov 2014 #41

Surely, you are dreaming customerserviceguy Nov 2014 #17

And during the same period, I have witnessed a few here Live and Learn Nov 2014 #31

Doing something towards 2016 customerserviceguy Nov 2014 #45

Fantasizing that digging in and accepting zero progress is a strategy Live and Learn Nov 2014 #47

Other than compromise with the GOP customerserviceguy Nov 2014 #54

Nobody suggested that they would entertain the idea. Live and Learn Nov 2014 #58

It doesn't mean expecting to PASS it in the next two years, for God's sakes. Ken Burch Nov 2014 #24

+1 nt Live and Learn Nov 2014 #34

If it's a motivating tactic for 2016, fine customerserviceguy Nov 2014 #55

We need to start the push now in order to GET it into the platform. Ken Burch Nov 2014 #56

If we can get it in there, fine customerserviceguy Nov 2014 #57

Exactly, we need to really push and not let up. Live and Learn Nov 2014 #59

With many of the new enrollments now begining Wellstone ruled Nov 2014 #4

I said this more than a decade ago on DU and I will say it again. Cleita Nov 2014 #5

i agree. even when you get medicare you DesertFlower Nov 2014 #8

you pay 100 dollars for Part B, plus the cost of supplemental, which is optional, but is very costly still_one Nov 2014 #32

my supplmental isn't too bad but my income is high so i do pay more DesertFlower Nov 2014 #35

Some states are better than others. Texas is one of the worse for doctors who won't accept Medicare still_one Nov 2014 #40

What would you be willing to trade for it? Shemp Howard Nov 2014 #11

This republican party will NEVER accept single payer. Hell, if they could they would get rid of still_one Nov 2014 #33

What say I? Pharaoh Nov 2014 #13

HR 676, whip the votes in both houses of congress to pass it IronLionZion Nov 2014 #14

yes Dream Forever Nov 2014 #15

We could start with Medicare for all. SheilaT Nov 2014 #16

Yes. Assuming it scales, that's the simplest way to start. RufusTFirefly Nov 2014 #19

Don't say "single payer", say Medicare for all! jazzimov Nov 2014 #18

Good point. Repubs are doing their best to destroy gov't services that work well RufusTFirefly Nov 2014 #21

Just keep in mind that insurance companies pretty much run Medicare. Hoyt Nov 2014 #28

Umm... True Blue Door Nov 2014 #20

In fact there is a kind of "web" spun by single-payer gov't guaranteed health care. delrem Nov 2014 #26

A fact is not a method. True Blue Door Nov 2014 #29

In Canada, it happened first in one Province. delrem Nov 2014 #25

Five provinces isn't 50 states, your level of difficulty is way, way higher. One province is like TheKentuckian Nov 2014 #53

"five"? delrem Nov 2014 #81

Push in the right place. jeff47 Nov 2014 #27

You won't see Democrats talk about any health care reform for a very, very, very long time scarystuffyo Nov 2014 #36

I agree with pushing for single payer davidpdx Nov 2014 #37

That will never happen with Democrats and Republicans in control scarystuffyo Nov 2014 #38

Medicare for All, including dental, optical, hearing aids, mental health and LTC services. Scuba Nov 2014 #42

Recommended! H2O Man Nov 2014 #43

This message was self-deleted by its author Corruption Inc Nov 2014 #44

Agreed. I'll add: LWolf Nov 2014 #46

How? Doctor_J Nov 2014 #48

Robin Hood Tax on the One Percenters Utopian Leftist Nov 2014 #50

I agree shenmue Nov 2014 #52

I thought we had started that push when we elected Dems in 2008. sabrina 1 Nov 2014 #63

First you need to convince the Dems in power that SP is worth fighting for and ... slipslidingaway Nov 2014 #64

An audit of the federal reserve? RB TexLa Nov 2014 #72

Oh I don't even know. I just threw that in after pulling it out of my backside. silvershadow Nov 2014 #77

...because the Federal Reserve isn't legitimate and constitutional? brooklynite Nov 2014 #80

Yeah, ok. That's what I said. silvershadow Nov 2014 #82

no shit arely staircase Nov 2014 #84

End speculation on oil which began with Koch brothers lobbying and enron loophole J_J_ Nov 2014 #79

I will call congressman Gomhert's office right away arely staircase Nov 2014 #83

Republican congress will approve wasteful spending fighting wars, but health care B Calm Nov 2014 #85