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MrScorpio

(73,630 posts)
36. And what would be the point of defining ONLY certain people acceptable and others unacceptable...
Sat Nov 15, 2014, 10:06 AM
Nov 2014

Before ANYONE has even declared that they're going to run? What's the point of making mere unsubstantiated presumptions about this no-existent candidacies?

"Oooo, I'm only going to vote for such-and-such and so-and-so can go to hell!" Right. That's smart thinking.

We have no idea what the field is going to look like just yet, and if we do stand a chance of keeping the White House, it stands reason to wait and balance the alternatives at the right time.

It doesn't matter to me if Hillary is going to run or not. I haven't even had the opportunity to hear from her if she will and what case she'd make to run, if she so chooses. I haven't yet had the chance to weigh her case against any of her opponents... Because no one has yet declared.

If she does decide to run and if she ends up being the nominee, she's going to be THE Democratic candidate, will she not? At that point, the time for petty bickering is over.

The important thing is to win in November.

If has some particular stance on an issue that would seem problematic on the outset, there's nothing stopping any of us (as a group to make our voices heard about it), even during the general campaign. If selected, she would be vying for the most votes, not just ours but everyone's. Our competing voices would have to be loud enough to be here. Disengagement at that time would be counter-productive.

Something like that is an ongoing process, even were she would to serve a term as our elected President. It pays to STAY engaged throughout the entire process.

If anything, our unwillingness to stay engaged and our voices always heard has been our shortcoming. How President Obama was abandoned by his own party should be a testament to THAT disgrace.

You're going to have to dance with who brung ya, one way or the other. That's how politics works.





Some people are obsessed with HRC [View all] arely staircase Nov 2014 OP
Oh yeah shenmue Nov 2014 #1
I know I am obsessed with keeping her out of ANY public office IdiocracyTheNewNorm Nov 2014 #2
Any suggestions about which Democrat can win in 2016, if not Hillary? MrScorpio Nov 2014 #4
Haven't you heard? leftofcool Nov 2014 #6
Which is why candidate wishery never made any sense to me... MrScorpio Nov 2014 #8
That deserves its own thread. Like a boss, that's a cool expression I don't hear much. freshwest Nov 2014 #13
LOL, you're being sarcastic, right? Electric Monk Nov 2014 #67
No. And won't watch the film. Thought it meant something else. EOM. freshwest Nov 2014 #68
Do you think avg people should be part of the process of selecting the candidate? HereSince1628 Nov 2014 #17
For the Primary, there's no problem with it... MrScorpio Nov 2014 #23
But apparently there is a problem on DU, just look at the angst at over a year out HereSince1628 Nov 2014 #28
And what would be the point of defining ONLY certain people acceptable and others unacceptable... MrScorpio Nov 2014 #36
The bubble that is DU has as much effect on the real world as an ACTUAL soap bubble. randome Nov 2014 #37
I suspect it reflects conversations throughout the nation which HereSince1628 Nov 2014 #39
That's not what I think gwheezie Nov 2014 #52
And no time for unicorns. nt pnwmom Nov 2014 #47
Like you I am willing to wait but Hillary is a non starter in my book, no support for her from me IdiocracyTheNewNorm Nov 2014 #7
Okay, but what if she's nominated by an overwhelming majority of Democrats? MrScorpio Nov 2014 #9
Voting third party or writing in a name IdiocracyTheNewNorm Nov 2014 #10
I see. MrScorpio Nov 2014 #11
I am really not in the mood to play a tit for tat game let’s just say over the IdiocracyTheNewNorm Nov 2014 #19
I've been kicked out of other threads for expressing that very thought RedstDem Nov 2014 #21
Where will you find a candidate who is 'the best'? randome Nov 2014 #38
thats pretty simple really RedstDem Nov 2014 #46
An honest and straight-forward position. randome Nov 2014 #61
Can you illuminate us about her economic principles? bhikkhu Nov 2014 #42
Yep, you can always not vote at all, or write in someone you like leftofcool Nov 2014 #15
So for you, having a Republican in the White House is preferable to having Hillary. baldguy Nov 2014 #32
Wasting a vote heaven05 Nov 2014 #35
So if I choose to vote for the Socialist candidate over a Democratic candidate because I believe IdiocracyTheNewNorm Nov 2014 #40
vote for whom you may heaven05 Nov 2014 #41
Personally, I love my country more than my principles. MoonchildCA Nov 2014 #44
Thank you. I think 840high Nov 2014 #69
For me, eating waffles on voting day and reading a good book. Since she's inevitable Katashi_itto Nov 2014 #54
Half heartedly voting for her Aerows Nov 2014 #63
Really? leftofcool Nov 2014 #14
Bill Clinton posed as a Progressive, that's why he won. RiverLover Nov 2014 #24
So sit it out. leftofcool Nov 2014 #26
Yeah, okay heaven05 Nov 2014 #30
theres really a lot of Democrats that can win the election, and are more palatble for the majority RedstDem Nov 2014 #20
It's just that I see no point in burning bridges at this point... MrScorpio Nov 2014 #22
i remember running with our heads down backwoodsbob Nov 2014 #31
and Karl Rove thanks you.....what we CANNOT afford....is Republican control of 3 branches! VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #27
I am not sure some really understand a GOP controlled government and its Thinkingabout Nov 2014 #55
they totally don't....this is not a time for a Hail Mary...this is time to play DEFENSE! VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #59
Come back soon, again... SidDithers Nov 2014 #73
You ain't seen nuthin' yet! leftofcool Nov 2014 #3
it will be off the charts nt arely staircase Nov 2014 #16
some people don't want to look at who she is, both as a candidate and politician cali Nov 2014 #5
I have wanted her to be President since the 90s arely staircase Nov 2014 #18
yep....but I have. VanillaRhapsody Nov 2014 #29
The RW are masters of getting people to hate someone bhikkhu Nov 2014 #43
2016 Obama - Biden Reformed Bully Nov 2014 #12
??? RiverLover Nov 2014 #25
She ticks all the boxes ... JEFF9K Nov 2014 #33
It will take some time for some to get comfortable with her as our nominee. hrmjustin Nov 2014 #34
Silly me - I thought you were talking about the Dems! jillan Nov 2014 #45
Obsessed? No. I just won't vote for her. Tierra_y_Libertad Nov 2014 #48
I find it interesting how some posters here draw the line at Hillary. They've supposedly voted Dem Metric System Nov 2014 #49
Which she is. Eridenus Nov 2014 #50
Proof? Link. Thinkingabout Nov 2014 #56
Here's one of them Eridenus Nov 2014 #64
How do you get a .jpg in your signature view? LawDeeDah Nov 2014 #58
Probably pasted in as part of the text, not as part of the sig line. randome Nov 2014 #62
I think I will build one of my patented Super Hidey Boxes shenmue Nov 2014 #51
Was at the grocery store. looked at the tabloids while in line, National Enquirer front page... Erich Bloodaxe BSN Nov 2014 #53
When ya aint got nuttin' ya just kick sh*t. Thinkingabout Nov 2014 #57
If more people were obsessed with her, she'd have to become a better candidate. Orsino Nov 2014 #60
not sure I can think of anyone who has been scrutinized more arely staircase Nov 2014 #65
The million-and-one distractions and made-up scandals don't count as actual scrutiny. Orsino Nov 2014 #70
Nice paint kit you got there. L0oniX Nov 2014 #66
Yes, they are obsessed with her. How about ending the obsession by not mentioning her sabrina 1 Nov 2014 #71
Yup. 8 anti-Hillary threads in a span of 13 minutes, from a single poster... SidDithers Nov 2014 #72
Not easy being a Clinton supporter on this site. hrmjustin Nov 2014 #74
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