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uppityperson

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10. I know there is minimal info yet, just saw that line and it made me wince.

Sun Nov 23, 2014, 01:16 AM

Nov 2014

People do not always hear commands, or know they are aimed at them. Did you follow the shooting in Seattle a couple yrs ago of John Williams? The police did not ID himself, yelled at Mr Williams, when Mr Williams turned to see who was yelling, bam bam bam bam. Yes, Mr Williams was deaf in 1 ear, hard of hearing in the other. Yes, he was carrying a legal pocketknife. Yes, the cop ran up to close to him yelling "put the knife down" and testified Mr Williams turned with a concerned look on his face so he felt in danger and killed him.

http://www.seattlepi.com/local/article/No-charges-in-woodcarver-shooting-by-Seattle-1016227.php

Police do get shot, but some over react.

Not enough info to tell yet, just noticing that line. And why would I worry about how long you'll be staying, whatever that means?

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Cleveland police officer shoots 12-year old boy carrying BB gun [View all] YoungDemCA Nov 2014 OP

More out of control cops. eom MohRokTah Nov 2014 #1

In this case, I don't think we can blame the cop for shooting the 12 year old boy. GGJohn Nov 2014 #37

I can tell that it should be banned. stone space Nov 2014 #62

I won't argue with that. GGJohn Nov 2014 #70

Got a picture of the 12yr old Boy - Cop Apologist FreakinDJ Nov 2014 #83

Typical, name calling while not debunking my post. GGJohn Nov 2014 #84

Not a lot to debunk about Cheerleading Cops killing Black Children FreakinDJ Nov 2014 #85

Hyperbole doesn't fit you well. GGJohn Nov 2014 #86

Really - A Child in a Playground with a Toy FreakinDJ Nov 2014 #88

Heartbreaking Cal Carpenter Nov 2014 #2

Come on folks, the kid had a gun. What did you expect the cop to do? Rex Nov 2014 #3

why are you sarcastic Taurusny22 Nov 2014 #4

Why don't you use your common sense on that? MrMickeysMom Nov 2014 #6

Look at the picture 840high Nov 2014 #78

LOL, eight posts? You won't be here long. Nt Logical Nov 2014 #11

We'll see Taurusny22 Nov 2014 #18

A cop? And it took this long to comment?? Nt Logical Nov 2014 #19

I would be hesitant to comment too. branford Nov 2014 #27

Bullshit..... Logical Nov 2014 #36

You're proving my point. branford Nov 2014 #71

I have defended police shootings here. But many police get away with murder. I would bet more..... Logical Nov 2014 #74

As I said, it depends on the individual circumstances. branford Nov 2014 #77

If I had a dime for every person that comes here and pretends to be a cop Rex Nov 2014 #44

yes an active duty Nypd detective Taurusny22 Nov 2014 #40

Wow, the NYPD, you proud of their police department? Have you tried to stop the corruption? nt Logical Nov 2014 #41

I'm extremely proud of the work I've accomplished Taurusny22 Nov 2014 #61

Want a list? nt Logical Nov 2014 #66

"Most cops are paranoid about getting caught doing something bad".... Logical Nov 2014 #75

Who were you when you used to post years ago? uppityperson Nov 2014 #67

MIRT: Lurker in aisle #18! marble falls Nov 2014 #30

Good to see you posting. 840high Nov 2014 #79

Cops job/ position places them in a higher standard above the average citizens. FarPoint Nov 2014 #28

No you are right, the guy had to blow away that kid. It was either the kid Rex Nov 2014 #45

Or all the other kids on the playground XemaSab Nov 2014 #46

Well if they got hit by indiscriminate fire, it is their own fault for being there. Rex Nov 2014 #51

Like the poor guy who, while commiting no crime and was avebury Nov 2014 #48

That looks like a real 911 .45 ACP. Drahthaardogs Nov 2014 #38

I don't get it, we had toy guns that looked real in the 80s. Rex Nov 2014 #43

As far as you knew then, at least. Jenoch Nov 2014 #47

There were no school shootings or kids getting suspended for making bomb threats. Rex Nov 2014 #49

Remember the school shooting in Littleton, Colorado? Jenoch Nov 2014 #52

Interesting, check this out. Rex Nov 2014 #54

The people who provide the weapons to school shooters, Jenoch Nov 2014 #55

I agree 100%, one thing that was the same back when I was in HS Rex Nov 2014 #56

The only guns at my school were shotguns Jenoch Nov 2014 #57

My HS was a big 5A school that had gangster wannabes. Rex Nov 2014 #58

My high school was small, rural, and almost all white. Jenoch Nov 2014 #59

"When an officer gives a command, we expect it to be followed" and if not, shoot them? uppityperson Nov 2014 #5

If the command is drop the gun Taurusny22 Nov 2014 #9

I know there is minimal info yet, just saw that line and it made me wince. uppityperson Nov 2014 #10

Sorry typing on a kindle Taurusny22 Nov 2014 #12

Aha, I see it. I edited the previous reply to you, added more of why people sometimes don't know uppityperson Nov 2014 #13

Nice anecdote. Got any facts or statistics that don't include secondhand cop-shop talk? marble falls Nov 2014 #31

This has DU outrage written all over it. For days. flvegan Nov 2014 #7

Cannot blame the cops for this one. ManiacJoe Nov 2014 #8

A 12 years old should not be the one who knows better FatherAndHusband Nov 2014 #24

The adult DID have, and use, Common Sense. ManiacJoe Nov 2014 #25

That is not a black and white issue of knowing not to pick up a avebury Nov 2014 #50

What you say is good and true, but not relevant to the current case. ManiacJoe Nov 2014 #64

Grown adults who are supposed to be trained with dealing with hazardous situations avebury Nov 2014 #65

A handgun in the hand of a 12 year old Jenoch Nov 2014 #68

except it was not a handgun eom noiretextatique Nov 2014 #72

Go back and read the story and look at the photos. Jenoch Nov 2014 #76

Lucky for us, adults who deal with hazardous situations on a regular basis ManiacJoe Nov 2014 #69

You didn't know by seventh grade that branford Nov 2014 #26

Why did the 12 year old 840high Nov 2014 #80

Pulled out the "gun": yanked it into combat position or taken by the barrel and being handed to.... marble falls Nov 2014 #32

yanked it into combat position. ManiacJoe Nov 2014 #63

orange marking had been removed from the airsoft gun rollin74 Nov 2014 #14

Oy vey! branford Nov 2014 #15

My money is on the kid having done it. linuxman Nov 2014 #17

Where were his parents or guardians? branford Nov 2014 #20

12 y/os know better. At some point you can't blame parents for everything. linuxman Nov 2014 #22

We fully agree. branford Nov 2014 #23

Read here: marble falls Nov 2014 #33

"The rookie officer saw a black gun sitting on the table..." Droning Predator Nov 2014 #16

To this day I don't know why they make those airsoft BB guns look so real helpmetohelpyou Nov 2014 #21

several on DU have called on 911 callers Duckhunter935 Nov 2014 #29

How should one respond to the potential of a 12 year old with a gun? etherealtruth Nov 2014 #39

I am talking about the ones Duckhunter935 Nov 2014 #42

My wife had to wrestle a gun away from a 5th grader... meaculpa2011 Nov 2014 #34

This is partially a consequence of having a gun saturated society, Crunchy Frog Nov 2014 #35

Exactly! loyalsister Nov 2014 #82

when i was a kid I had a water gun that looked real and got the helicopter and and a chase after me MattP Nov 2014 #53

A long time ago, Brigid Nov 2014 #60

some dispute over the facts noiretextatique Nov 2014 #73

With no orange markings. 840high Nov 2014 #81

so? i will wait for more info noiretextatique Nov 2014 #89

What kind of dispute over the facts? ManiacJoe Nov 2014 #87