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Veganhealedme

(137 posts) Sat Nov 29, 2014, 07:18 PM Nov 2014

FFS Hillary, just bring back the $3 a day wage, pay docking, no overtime pay, 90 hour workweek [View all]

Walter Reuther didn't get bodyslammed on the concrete 7 fucking times while battling Ford Motor Company's KKK-backed "Service Department" while organizing a union drive at Ford in the 1930's..

JUST TO SEE DEMOCRATS FREE TRADE OUR MIDDLE CLASS TO CHINA TO KILL WAGES

Hillary, YOU are..

Pro $3 a day wage for us, the peon class

Anti-40 hour work week

Pro-wage-docking(fuck up on the job and your boss docks half your days paycheck)

Pro 16 hour workday

Anti-overtime pay

Anti-paid holidays and paid vacation time

Anti-OTJ safety requirements

You automatically take these stances when you advocate for free trade and outsourcing.

Hillary is ripping the Democratic Party apart because the Clinton's sold out the spine of the party, its middle class.

The ENTIRE purpose of free trade is to undo Walter Reuther's legacy of building America's middle class.

The Clinton's might be the worst thing that has ever happened to America's middle class.

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FFS Hillary, just bring back the $3 a day wage, pay docking, no overtime pay, 90 hour workweek [View all] Veganhealedme Nov 2014 OP

And your link, looks like cognitive dissonance, you should check you facts before you rattle this BS Thinkingabout Nov 2014 #1

Tell me what I'm wrong about.. nt Veganhealedme Nov 2014 #2

I'll make it easy for you, all of it, now do you have a link for any of this. Thinkingabout Nov 2014 #3

I'll make it easy for you, Hillary is as anti-middle class as.. Veganhealedme Nov 2014 #4

Yes I know who Walter Reuther was, you are talking to a long time union member. Thinkingabout Nov 2014 #6

Hillary Is A Republican At Heart billhicks76 Nov 2014 #21

You may be sick of her but she is left leaning Democrat. The truth is easier than trying to prop up Thinkingabout Nov 2014 #33

Pro war, pro Wall Street, pro TPP, pro Keystone XL, pro H-1B visas. Yep, that's a left-leaning... Scuba Nov 2014 #46

You have listed issues of which I like her stand, thanks. Thinkingabout Nov 2014 #47

If you're pro war, pro Wall Street, pro TPP, pro Keystone XL and pro H-1B visas ... Scuba Nov 2014 #48

Maybe because I am a life long Democrat who looks deeper into the horizon. Thinkingabout Nov 2014 #49

Thanks for letting us know where you stand. Scuba Nov 2014 #50

You are welcome. Thinkingabout Nov 2014 #51

Some times one issue is so big it drowns out all others. The decision to promote the rhett o rick Nov 2014 #65

Just as you judge Hillary by one vote i also doubt Warren has what it takes to make a strong Thinkingabout Nov 2014 #71

I think you are having a perspective problem if you equate the IWar with the consequences of rhett o rick Nov 2014 #75

Is this the best you have? Are you going to remain in the 2001-08 time and never move? Thinkingabout Nov 2014 #82

No, I have more. But HRC's choice to help Republicans (they are the enemy) promote lies that rhett o rick Nov 2014 #84

I will take HRC, strong, decisive, experienced, not limited to certain subjects, world traveled, met Thinkingabout Nov 2014 #86

Thinking About Not Listening To You billhicks76 Dec 2014 #120

Do whatever makes you happy, see ya. Thinkingabout Dec 2014 #121

That deep horizion you're looking at... Lancero Nov 2014 #70

It's not a cliff but a slope and the middle class is sliding down. rhett o rick Nov 2014 #85

Since she has worked her adult life to help others,has fought for minimun wage increases, Thinkingabout Dec 2014 #105

Those things are wonderful but she made a huge mistake. One that can't be reconciled. rhett o rick Dec 2014 #106

Ok I gotcha, one vote you dont like and they are out, I have the same priviledge, Thinkingabout Dec 2014 #107

Your perspective is way off. HRC's decision lead to the deaths of hundreds of thousands, destroyed rhett o rick Dec 2014 #108

And let let me remind you the current threat of ISIS is real, Warren has proven Thinkingabout Dec 2014 #124

Your perspective is way off. nm rhett o rick Dec 2014 #126

Total BS billhicks76 Dec 2014 #122

Same BS, nothing new here. Thinkingabout Dec 2014 #125

Is she for or against the TPP, or NAFTA, or GATT? grahamhgreen Nov 2014 #61

Here is her stand on the issues Thinkingabout Nov 2014 #62

Can't answer a simple question on policy positions? For or against? grahamhgreen Nov 2014 #63

I provided you the information available Thinkingabout Nov 2014 #64

You don't like to discuss actual issues do you? I am guessing rhett o rick Nov 2014 #66

Confusing. Explain it like I'm five years old:) grahamhgreen Nov 2014 #74

Would this help? truedelphi Nov 2014 #78

Got it! That's what i thought that blue link said;) grahamhgreen Dec 2014 #99

Supporters are cautious to discuss actual issues in case they might say something counter rhett o rick Nov 2014 #67

She will check with Jamie Dimon and get back to you. nt One_Life_To_Give Dec 2014 #109

Thanks for your posts. truedelphi Nov 2014 #76

I don't even see a link, just crap. Agschmid Nov 2014 #12

+1 riversedge Nov 2014 #54

Some people never let the facts get in the way of a good RW lie. baldguy Nov 2014 #14

Haiti and Honduras. Fucking racist policy. The "white mans burden" policy. Luminous Animal Nov 2014 #41

We don't have 'free trade' with China unless we have a "NAFTA" pampango Nov 2014 #5

Bubba's MFN status + Bush's tax cut incentives.. Veganhealedme Nov 2014 #7

MFN led to China's entry into the WTO. Keeping China out pampango Nov 2014 #9

I would like provisions that protect high standards for workers in the workplace and equity JDPriestly Nov 2014 #11

"The extreme amount of trade we now have is very bad for Americans." pampango Nov 2014 #13

If you look at this chart, you will see that Germany, for example, has a trade surplus. JDPriestly Nov 2014 #37

Imports are 33% of Germany's economy; 13% of the U.S.' pampango Nov 2014 #43

We export less because we allowed our government and corporations to export our best JDPriestly Nov 2014 #57

Canada has a small positive balance of trade. Germany has a big one. JDPriestly Dec 2014 #98

Totally agree with you JD Priestley. And on top of truedelphi Nov 2014 #90

Yes. JDPriestly Dec 2014 #96

Are you going to apologize for posting your Tea Party stuff from our last outsourcing debate? markme88 Nov 2014 #56

TPP & India RiverLover Nov 2014 #8

+1000 good links, thank you. Esp the huffpo on outsourcing. peacebird Nov 2014 #52

Thanks peacebird. RiverLover Nov 2014 #53

Thanks for posting this about Hillary and the TPP. truedelphi Dec 2014 #101

K&R. JDPriestly Nov 2014 #10

Oh come on, Clinton was the best RepubliCON president we ever had. RoccoR5955 Nov 2014 #15

You must be republicon also Thinkingabout Nov 2014 #35

What makes you say that? RoccoR5955 Nov 2014 #44

If the Clintons are republicons and anyone who is to the right of the Clintons then the only Thinkingabout Nov 2014 #45

Do you mean RoccoR5955 Nov 2014 #59

Do you have a source to provide where Hillary, Warren and Bernie stands? Thinkingabout Nov 2014 #60

You use only ONE source? RoccoR5955 Nov 2014 #69

Did you follow any of the sites to the end and see the chart provided? Thinkingabout Nov 2014 #73

I saw the chart RoccoR5955 Dec 2014 #94

Facts are facts, do you have proof these facts are incorrect? Thinkingabout Dec 2014 #102

Facts are RoccoR5955 Dec 2014 #103

Exactly, they are out in the open, do you have any out in the open which are different? Thinkingabout Dec 2014 #104

I just keep track of their actions RoccoR5955 Dec 2014 #110

Then if you keep up through these sources you would know Hillary's voting record Thinkingabout Dec 2014 #113

That is your opinion RoccoR5955 Dec 2014 #114

Goldwater ran for president in 1964, she was not eligible to vote until 1968 and she voted Democrat Thinkingabout Dec 2014 #115

Oh... RoccoR5955 Dec 2014 #116

How do I know these things, I research, I also know without thinking she was not Thinkingabout Dec 2014 #117

Wikipedia is your friend. n/t RoccoR5955 Dec 2014 #118

It is one source, in this case my caculator helped also. Thinkingabout Dec 2014 #119

K&R ReRe Nov 2014 #16

If you try really hard, you can come up with a lot more baseless insults... brooklynite Nov 2014 #17

I'm sure Caretha Nov 2014 #18

You'll let us know when? brooklynite Nov 2014 #19

Where did I say Caretha Nov 2014 #24

And nowhere in that exciting tapestry of events will the claims in the OP be supported... brooklynite Nov 2014 #26

I get it Caretha Nov 2014 #27

If 17 million people are wrong, sulphurdunn Nov 2014 #22

Brooklynite, did 17m overcome Obama in the '08 primaries? Veganhealedme Nov 2014 #25

With the exception of the Iraq war, name a progressive theme where Obama differed from Clinton... brooklynite Nov 2014 #29

Raising taxes on higher income earners to support Social Security. JDPriestly Nov 2014 #38

Liz Warren is a self-avowed socialist? truedelphi Nov 2014 #81

I'm responding to the suggestion that Obama won based on "progressive themes"...nothing more brooklynite Nov 2014 #83

Why don't HRC supporters ever speak to actual issues? nm rhett o rick Nov 2014 #68

Because then they would look bad?? n/t truedelphi Nov 2014 #89

Yes in some cases, but in other cases it's because they can't be certain where rhett o rick Dec 2014 #93

+1,000,000,000,000 99Forever Nov 2014 #20

K&R Hillary Clinton for 2016 = a menace to human beings and democracy itself. woo me with science Nov 2014 #23

+1000! I like the word menace! Too true. nt Veganhealedme Nov 2014 #31

Can you cite any votes, written or spoken words or polices to back that up? bhikkhu Nov 2014 #28

See post #30. JDPriestly Nov 2014 #39

I'd recognize that some criticism is fact-based, and centers on real issues bhikkhu Nov 2014 #42

Lots of points. I won't address them all. JDPriestly Nov 2014 #58

I agree with the points you have made here. lumpy Dec 2014 #91

Nothing is more important now than stopping Hillary and woo me with science Nov 2014 #30

Nothing new here Thinkingabout Nov 2014 #34

Thanks for posting that compolation JEB Nov 2014 #40

Of course, you won't be doing this... brooklynite Nov 2014 #72

Great information trove. truedelphi Nov 2014 #79

Thank you for posting these links. Would you please consider posting an OP with them? peacebird Nov 2014 #88

Get to work. joshcryer Dec 2014 #92

livingwagenow, Union Yes...nt SidDithers Nov 2014 #32

When you don't have facts then do like the RW does, make some of your own, FOX news training. Thinkingabout Nov 2014 #36

Outright lies like the OP does not do Democrats proud. riversedge Nov 2014 #55

its funny too, the hillbots are already measuring the curtains in the oval office. RedstDem Nov 2014 #77

Careful now, they'll hide your thread for dissing Madame Nixon. True Blue Door Nov 2014 #80

I would rate Ronald Reagan as being a little worse, just a little. doc03 Nov 2014 #87

I get your anger,but what do you base the numbers and work rules in you OP on? Ken Burch Dec 2014 #95

K&R. You cannot support free trade agreements and worker's rights at the same time. liberal_at_heart Dec 2014 #97

Is it stream of consciousness time!? LostInAnomie Dec 2014 #100

You win the thread... SidDithers Dec 2014 #112

This is some kind of fantasy orgasm post! BootinUp Dec 2014 #111

TPP is deliberately designed to exclude China Recursion Dec 2014 #123