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Donald Ian Rankin

(13,598 posts)
22. A trial is *not* what you have "to find out the truth".
Sat Nov 29, 2014, 08:27 PM
Nov 2014

A criminal trial is what you have after the prosecutors have decided that they are certain enough someone is guilty that they have a good chance of convincing a jury that they are guilty "beyond all reasonable doubt".

And even if you viewed a trial an investigative tool, it wouldn't tell you if the suspect was innocent or guilty - the verdicts a jury can return are "guilty beyond all reasonable doubt" and "there is reasonable doubt of guilt", not "guilty" or "innocent".

A criminal trial is not a substitute for an enquiry or investigation, it's an prelude to punishment. The way the criminal justice system works is that you only try someone if you're pretty certain they're guilty - very trials end in acquittals, not because they system is rigged, but because the cases where acquittal is likely don't get prosecuted.

By all means argue that Wilson is almost certainly guilty, and should therefore be tried and convicted. But arguing for a trial as a way of finding out the truth is either misguided or disingenuous.

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Hard to know without a trial gollygee Nov 2014 #1
A trial is *not* what you have "to find out the truth". Donald Ian Rankin Nov 2014 #22
Then what was the Zimmerman trial about? icymist Nov 2014 #34
Warren is guilty... duh! RobertEarl Nov 2014 #38
But he killed a hulking demon, some would say that was good police work. nt BootinUp Nov 2014 #2
And Manson was guilty of inadequate surgical practice. nt Xipe Totec Nov 2014 #3
THIS THREAD CatWoman Nov 2014 #4
this thread gollygee Nov 2014 #5
mine was just sarcasm BootinUp Nov 2014 #6
... CatWoman Nov 2014 #8
No. No it doesn't. It needs more of this... madinmaryland Nov 2014 #7
awww CatWoman Nov 2014 #10
I didn't realize police work included personal exorcism Starry Messenger Nov 2014 #9
Yes, doubtless he needed to be a better shot and not used up all those bullets. djean111 Nov 2014 #11
Wrong. Rex Nov 2014 #12
Weren't you arguing here yesterday that some people just need to be killed? I'm sensing a pattern. Electric Monk Nov 2014 #13
I'm not seeing a connection here. AverageJoe90 Nov 2014 #17
Yes I was. davishenderson265 Nov 2014 #21
"abominable" ~ TBF Nov 2014 #14
Wilson's bad police work propelled the incident to its foreseeable tragic result. John1956PA Nov 2014 #15
I wish I could be so optimistic. AverageJoe90 Nov 2014 #16
To take a comment from another delightful thread of yours... ScreamingMeemie Nov 2014 #18
Christ on a trailer hitch. Who are you? Hekate Nov 2014 #19
Arrogance.. davishenderson265 Nov 2014 #20
LOL it seems you are confused, talking to yourself or.... Spazito Nov 2014 #24
You are replying to yourself. MineralMan Nov 2014 #26
Wilson would be one of those "complete animals" in your other rightwing opus Warren Stupidity Nov 2014 #31
"Guilty of bad police work." Brilliant. "Good" police work would have meant killing the friend, too? Judi Lynn Nov 2014 #23
Only a trial can determine that. MineralMan Nov 2014 #25
Pfui. Savannahmann Nov 2014 #27
Amen.... daleanime Nov 2014 #30
Wilson initiated a confrontation with Brown. cheyanne Nov 2014 #35
I don't care what the laws 'allows' him to do.... daleanime Nov 2014 #28
Wilson murdered Brown, imo. (nt) bigwillq Nov 2014 #29
Minimum voluntary manslaughter, but we will never see justice, will we...more of this to come NoJusticeNoPeace Nov 2014 #33
Nope. He's guilty of murder, he just got away with it. PDJane Nov 2014 #32
TROLOLOLOLOL!!! morningfog Nov 2014 #36
... CatWoman Nov 2014 #37
That is bizarre! nt elias49 Nov 2014 #40
This thread = just another attempt to deny that a racist asshole killed another black Liberal_Stalwart71 Nov 2014 #39
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