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JDPriestly

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58. Lots of points. I won't address them all.
Sun Nov 30, 2014, 02:00 PM
Nov 2014

I agree. We should not have been involved in Honduras. But our involvement in Central America goes back to the Eisenhower era when we intervened on behalf of United Fruit in Guatemala. We haven't freed ourselves from that karma (if you want to call it that) yet.

Syria is a mess. More honesty from our government about just what we have done would be necessary before I could say anything definite. I have suspicions about what our role has been, but that is all they are. So I won't address that other than to say that we should be careful about getting involved in situations we don't really understand because just when we think things can't get worse than Assad, we get ISIS. And some of our "friends" may be supporting ISIS, so we have to be very careful about which "friends" we help out.

The Constitution gives to Congress the authority to print and value our coins or currency. What our banking institutions if any, should be was a subject of controversy beginning in the earliest history of our country. Adams, Jefferson and Alexander Hamilton and Washington kind of left the decision on the role of banks in our country to the future and to us. It was never really clear what way we should go. But if our government is of the people, by the people and for the people, it needs to play a major role in managing our economy.

For a long time, American banks have not acted in the interest of the American economy or people. As I often say, it is simply wrong that some ordinary person with very little education gets hauled off to court and maybe alternative sentencing or worse, prison, for fraud or forgery or shoplifting or petty theft while huge mortgage companies and banks operate a scheme of forging signatures on foreclosure documents and failing to comply with state laws about recording deeds and mortgages without a day in jail as well as all kinds of other misrepresentations and go scot frree. Something very, very, very wrong there. It's called corruption.

Every administration in recent years has taken campaign money from the banks and mortgage companies and the rest of the financial sector and closed its eyes to the malfeasance and crime perpetrated in that sector -- or most of that crime. That is simply wrong. (Do shoplifters and petty thieves need trade organizations and lobbyists? I hope you know I am joking. I am not trying to justify theft even if petty.)

And to nominate yet another mollycoddler of the banking and financial industry, yet another president who will fail to appoint a strong attorney general and other heads of agencies willing to regulate our financial sector is going to end badly -- could even end our country or at least impoverish it. On this basis alone, I oppose Hillary Clinton.

We need a president who will appoint people who will not necessarily be vindictive toward wealth but who will impose a sense of responsibility toward something other than just making themselves wealthy on our financial sector. All institutions and individuals who sell financial instruments of any kind to other people as a profession or on a wide basis should have a fiduciary duty and a duty of loyalty to the person they sell to and advise. They should have an obligation to be honest about what they think of the instruments they are selling. This is especially true of anyone selling instruments to a pension fund or a 401(K) fund.

In terms of trade pacts, our negative balance of payments is a heavy weight hanging over our heads. On the one hand, the fact that we can maintain such a negative balance says that our currency is respected and desired. On the other, the fact that we maintain such a negative balance says that our products are not respected or desired. In our effort to avoid becoming Communist and over rigid, we have become disorganized. Hey. Disorganization can result in a lot of creativity. Freedom is wonderful. But everything in moderation.

The economies in countries that export a lot like Germany are those in which there is a little more working together to set goals and more conscious direction at the government level than ours. The economies that are exporting like Germany or Sweden do not treat working people like dirt. They have the goal of producing products they can sell to others and don't just leave it up to good luck. Their export policy reaches into their social system -- their unemployment insurance, their financing of education, and their workplaces. Also they don't make it easy or desirable for companies to leverage buy-outs of the industry of their countries and just sell industries or major companies to other countries. (Our Maytag washers were fantastic when they were produced in Newton, Iowa. I bought mine used in 1985 and still have it. But where are Maytags produced now. I doubt that any Maytag bought today will be of the quality that mine is. Germany does well because its products are well made and reliable.)

"Free" trade has imposed a heavy debt burden, low wages and lower tax revenue from business profits in the US. All said and done, Americans have lost in the free trade game. A few very wealthy people have made out like bandits. That makes our economic statistics look like Americans are doing much better than we are. The reality is not good for most Americans. Walmart which specializes in selling imported junk to poor Americans is doing well. That is not a sign of prosperity. It is a sign of the economic desperation and paltry shopping choices that most Americans face.

I live in Southern California. I am very concerned about water. (We are due, finally, to get some rain this week.) Fracking is, as I understand it, not good for our water. I would like some transparency and better science on fracking. Same for GMOs. I like to garden, so I am concerned about the use of pesticides. We don't know what the long-range effects of pesticide use, much less GMOs, will be on our health. We may be playing with fire. What we need is good, independent science when it comes to thinks like fracking, GMOs, other chemicals and technologies. We don't get the independence in our science that we need. I don't know how we could, but we need to see whether there is a way. When I think about the mistakes our country made with regard to for example tobacco and asbestos, I think this is an area in which we need to find new ways to deal with the scientific review.

I don't think that Hillary Clinton is the person to lead the country in dealing with these problems. I think that she carries a lot of baggage. I was trained as a singer. I can hear emotion in voices maybe better than a lot of people. Her voice sounds bitter, sometimes arrogant. Her "laugh" or snicker will be a bigger problem than Dean's scream if I am not mistaken. I think she can be very sweet and fun, but that she also has a lot of pent-up anger in her. I think she really cares about women and children and, as a woman, I would like to see us have a woman for president for once. But I think that Hillary has too much going against her. She has too many personal and campaign finance ties to the financial sector. She is hated by many on the right and for no good reason. But if you think Obama has a hard time with the righties' completely unfair criticism of him, it will be much worse for Hillary Clinton. And then, I don't think she will support good policies in many of the areas I discussed above.

I have been reading about Teddy Roosevelt recently. He was a man born into wealth, but also with an extraordinarily optimistic, ebullient, energetic soul. I would like to see us have a real fighter for, as Teddy Roosevelt might say it, "virtue" in the White House. In some areas, Hillary Clinton could be that. But she is not the optimist and fighter that we need now. I think that Elizabeth Warren would be that optimistic fighter who just never gives up. Teddy Roosevelt had asthma as a child. It was quite serious. Yet he forced himself to work out, climb mountains and explore the wilderness. He was not a complainer. We need a president with that energy. I am not claiming to agree with all of Teddy Roosevelt's views on issues. But we need a president who speaks strongly and courageously for the people and is not intimidated or controlled by wealth. I do not think that Hillary Clinton is that person. Certainly not a one of the Republican potential candidates is at all qualified. I like Elizabeth Warren. I think Bernie Sanders also has the character to ignore the personal criticism and represent and fight for ordinary people. If we don't get a president who will energetically fight for ordinary people, I do not think our country will do at all well in the future. I know that Hillary Clinton would like to be that kind of a president, but I really don't think she can. She owes too many political debts to those who are bringing our country down.

Sorry for the long, long rant. But you raised a lot of important issues. Thanks.

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And your link, looks like cognitive dissonance, you should check you facts before you rattle this BS Thinkingabout Nov 2014 #1
Tell me what I'm wrong about.. nt Veganhealedme Nov 2014 #2
I'll make it easy for you, all of it, now do you have a link for any of this. Thinkingabout Nov 2014 #3
I'll make it easy for you, Hillary is as anti-middle class as.. Veganhealedme Nov 2014 #4
Yes I know who Walter Reuther was, you are talking to a long time union member. Thinkingabout Nov 2014 #6
Hillary Is A Republican At Heart billhicks76 Nov 2014 #21
You may be sick of her but she is left leaning Democrat. The truth is easier than trying to prop up Thinkingabout Nov 2014 #33
Pro war, pro Wall Street, pro TPP, pro Keystone XL, pro H-1B visas. Yep, that's a left-leaning... Scuba Nov 2014 #46
You have listed issues of which I like her stand, thanks. Thinkingabout Nov 2014 #47
If you're pro war, pro Wall Street, pro TPP, pro Keystone XL and pro H-1B visas ... Scuba Nov 2014 #48
Maybe because I am a life long Democrat who looks deeper into the horizon. Thinkingabout Nov 2014 #49
Thanks for letting us know where you stand. Scuba Nov 2014 #50
You are welcome. Thinkingabout Nov 2014 #51
Some times one issue is so big it drowns out all others. The decision to promote the rhett o rick Nov 2014 #65
Just as you judge Hillary by one vote i also doubt Warren has what it takes to make a strong Thinkingabout Nov 2014 #71
I think you are having a perspective problem if you equate the IWar with the consequences of rhett o rick Nov 2014 #75
Is this the best you have? Are you going to remain in the 2001-08 time and never move? Thinkingabout Nov 2014 #82
No, I have more. But HRC's choice to help Republicans (they are the enemy) promote lies that rhett o rick Nov 2014 #84
I will take HRC, strong, decisive, experienced, not limited to certain subjects, world traveled, met Thinkingabout Nov 2014 #86
Thinking About Not Listening To You billhicks76 Dec 2014 #120
Do whatever makes you happy, see ya. Thinkingabout Dec 2014 #121
That deep horizion you're looking at... Lancero Nov 2014 #70
It's not a cliff but a slope and the middle class is sliding down. rhett o rick Nov 2014 #85
Since she has worked her adult life to help others,has fought for minimun wage increases, Thinkingabout Dec 2014 #105
Those things are wonderful but she made a huge mistake. One that can't be reconciled. rhett o rick Dec 2014 #106
Ok I gotcha, one vote you dont like and they are out, I have the same priviledge, Thinkingabout Dec 2014 #107
Your perspective is way off. HRC's decision lead to the deaths of hundreds of thousands, destroyed rhett o rick Dec 2014 #108
And let let me remind you the current threat of ISIS is real, Warren has proven Thinkingabout Dec 2014 #124
Your perspective is way off. nm rhett o rick Dec 2014 #126
Total BS billhicks76 Dec 2014 #122
Same BS, nothing new here. Thinkingabout Dec 2014 #125
Is she for or against the TPP, or NAFTA, or GATT? grahamhgreen Nov 2014 #61
Here is her stand on the issues Thinkingabout Nov 2014 #62
Can't answer a simple question on policy positions? For or against? grahamhgreen Nov 2014 #63
I provided you the information available Thinkingabout Nov 2014 #64
You don't like to discuss actual issues do you? I am guessing rhett o rick Nov 2014 #66
Confusing. Explain it like I'm five years old:) grahamhgreen Nov 2014 #74
Would this help? truedelphi Nov 2014 #78
Got it! That's what i thought that blue link said;) grahamhgreen Dec 2014 #99
Supporters are cautious to discuss actual issues in case they might say something counter rhett o rick Nov 2014 #67
She will check with Jamie Dimon and get back to you. nt One_Life_To_Give Dec 2014 #109
Thanks for your posts. truedelphi Nov 2014 #76
I don't even see a link, just crap. Agschmid Nov 2014 #12
+1 riversedge Nov 2014 #54
Some people never let the facts get in the way of a good RW lie. baldguy Nov 2014 #14
Haiti and Honduras. Fucking racist policy. The "white mans burden" policy. Luminous Animal Nov 2014 #41
We don't have 'free trade' with China unless we have a "NAFTA" pampango Nov 2014 #5
Bubba's MFN status + Bush's tax cut incentives.. Veganhealedme Nov 2014 #7
MFN led to China's entry into the WTO. Keeping China out pampango Nov 2014 #9
I would like provisions that protect high standards for workers in the workplace and equity JDPriestly Nov 2014 #11
"The extreme amount of trade we now have is very bad for Americans." pampango Nov 2014 #13
If you look at this chart, you will see that Germany, for example, has a trade surplus. JDPriestly Nov 2014 #37
Imports are 33% of Germany's economy; 13% of the U.S.' pampango Nov 2014 #43
We export less because we allowed our government and corporations to export our best JDPriestly Nov 2014 #57
Canada has a small positive balance of trade. Germany has a big one. JDPriestly Dec 2014 #98
Totally agree with you JD Priestley. And on top of truedelphi Nov 2014 #90
Yes. JDPriestly Dec 2014 #96
Are you going to apologize for posting your Tea Party stuff from our last outsourcing debate? markme88 Nov 2014 #56
TPP & India RiverLover Nov 2014 #8
+1000 good links, thank you. Esp the huffpo on outsourcing. peacebird Nov 2014 #52
Thanks peacebird. RiverLover Nov 2014 #53
Thanks for posting this about Hillary and the TPP. truedelphi Dec 2014 #101
K&R. JDPriestly Nov 2014 #10
Oh come on, Clinton was the best RepubliCON president we ever had. RoccoR5955 Nov 2014 #15
You must be republicon also Thinkingabout Nov 2014 #35
What makes you say that? RoccoR5955 Nov 2014 #44
If the Clintons are republicons and anyone who is to the right of the Clintons then the only Thinkingabout Nov 2014 #45
Do you mean RoccoR5955 Nov 2014 #59
Do you have a source to provide where Hillary, Warren and Bernie stands? Thinkingabout Nov 2014 #60
You use only ONE source? RoccoR5955 Nov 2014 #69
Did you follow any of the sites to the end and see the chart provided? Thinkingabout Nov 2014 #73
I saw the chart RoccoR5955 Dec 2014 #94
Facts are facts, do you have proof these facts are incorrect? Thinkingabout Dec 2014 #102
Facts are RoccoR5955 Dec 2014 #103
Exactly, they are out in the open, do you have any out in the open which are different? Thinkingabout Dec 2014 #104
I just keep track of their actions RoccoR5955 Dec 2014 #110
Then if you keep up through these sources you would know Hillary's voting record Thinkingabout Dec 2014 #113
That is your opinion RoccoR5955 Dec 2014 #114
Goldwater ran for president in 1964, she was not eligible to vote until 1968 and she voted Democrat Thinkingabout Dec 2014 #115
Oh... RoccoR5955 Dec 2014 #116
How do I know these things, I research, I also know without thinking she was not Thinkingabout Dec 2014 #117
Wikipedia is your friend. n/t RoccoR5955 Dec 2014 #118
It is one source, in this case my caculator helped also. Thinkingabout Dec 2014 #119
K&R ReRe Nov 2014 #16
If you try really hard, you can come up with a lot more baseless insults... brooklynite Nov 2014 #17
I'm sure Caretha Nov 2014 #18
You'll let us know when? brooklynite Nov 2014 #19
Where did I say Caretha Nov 2014 #24
And nowhere in that exciting tapestry of events will the claims in the OP be supported... brooklynite Nov 2014 #26
I get it Caretha Nov 2014 #27
If 17 million people are wrong, sulphurdunn Nov 2014 #22
Brooklynite, did 17m overcome Obama in the '08 primaries? Veganhealedme Nov 2014 #25
With the exception of the Iraq war, name a progressive theme where Obama differed from Clinton... brooklynite Nov 2014 #29
Raising taxes on higher income earners to support Social Security. JDPriestly Nov 2014 #38
Liz Warren is a self-avowed socialist? truedelphi Nov 2014 #81
I'm responding to the suggestion that Obama won based on "progressive themes"...nothing more brooklynite Nov 2014 #83
Why don't HRC supporters ever speak to actual issues? nm rhett o rick Nov 2014 #68
Because then they would look bad?? n/t truedelphi Nov 2014 #89
Yes in some cases, but in other cases it's because they can't be certain where rhett o rick Dec 2014 #93
+1,000,000,000,000 99Forever Nov 2014 #20
K&R Hillary Clinton for 2016 = a menace to human beings and democracy itself. woo me with science Nov 2014 #23
+1000! I like the word menace! Too true. nt Veganhealedme Nov 2014 #31
Can you cite any votes, written or spoken words or polices to back that up? bhikkhu Nov 2014 #28
See post #30. JDPriestly Nov 2014 #39
I'd recognize that some criticism is fact-based, and centers on real issues bhikkhu Nov 2014 #42
Lots of points. I won't address them all. JDPriestly Nov 2014 #58
I agree with the points you have made here. lumpy Nov 2014 #91
Nothing is more important now than stopping Hillary and woo me with science Nov 2014 #30
Nothing new here Thinkingabout Nov 2014 #34
Thanks for posting that compolation JEB Nov 2014 #40
Of course, you won't be doing this... brooklynite Nov 2014 #72
Great information trove. truedelphi Nov 2014 #79
Thank you for posting these links. Would you please consider posting an OP with them? peacebird Nov 2014 #88
Get to work. joshcryer Nov 2014 #92
livingwagenow, Union Yes...nt SidDithers Nov 2014 #32
When you don't have facts then do like the RW does, make some of your own, FOX news training. Thinkingabout Nov 2014 #36
Outright lies like the OP does not do Democrats proud. riversedge Nov 2014 #55
its funny too, the hillbots are already measuring the curtains in the oval office. RedstDem Nov 2014 #77
Careful now, they'll hide your thread for dissing Madame Nixon. True Blue Door Nov 2014 #80
I would rate Ronald Reagan as being a little worse, just a little. doc03 Nov 2014 #87
I get your anger,but what do you base the numbers and work rules in you OP on? Ken Burch Dec 2014 #95
K&R. You cannot support free trade agreements and worker's rights at the same time. liberal_at_heart Dec 2014 #97
Is it stream of consciousness time!? LostInAnomie Dec 2014 #100
You win the thread... SidDithers Dec 2014 #112
This is some kind of fantasy orgasm post! BootinUp Dec 2014 #111
TPP is deliberately designed to exclude China Recursion Dec 2014 #123
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