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117. I'm a vegetarian, not far from vegan. Your veganism has not a damn thing to do with your HIV status.

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Tue Dec 2, 2014, 09:59 PM

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1 turkey leg has 1100 calories and 44 grams of heart killing animal saturated fat. [View all] Veganhealedme Dec 2014 OP

What are the slaughterhouse conditions like? Cali_Democrat Dec 2014 #1

don't think USA poultry have any regulations for humane slaughter conditions. Sunlei Dec 2014 #238

Are you really curious? justiceischeap Dec 2014 #283

Needs more bacon. Ykcutnek Dec 2014 #2

Can you actually do that? NYC_SKP Dec 2014 #6

Not only can you-it has benefits... catnhatnh Dec 2014 #156

It reminds me of one of my earliest easy to bake things. NYC_SKP Dec 2014 #164

They look great! catnhatnh Dec 2014 #173

I'm going to make those - Bacon Cordon Bleu JustAnotherGen Dec 2014 #226

I make something similar to this to put on the grill. Arkansas Granny Dec 2014 #247

Oh yum!!!! uppityperson Dec 2014 #277

I use an apple cider maple syrup butter on the bird. Thor_MN Dec 2014 #175

Aware of the pork parasite? Veganhealedme Dec 2014 #7

Which pork parasite? MineralMan Dec 2014 #16

":There eggs aren't killed by the cooking process btw." This is a lie. Odin2005 Dec 2014 #29

It was also poorly spelled lol. cwydro Dec 2014 #103

The myth was that state law required pork chops be served with applesauce. worms or eggs. NYC_SKP Dec 2014 #169

Just like an ex-smoker, GGJohn Dec 2014 #96

defend and protect? Kali Dec 2014 #179

I'm pretty sure when someone tells me that they "awoke to vitality"... Silent3 Dec 2014 #253

Careful now. That mouth watering, bacon wrapped bird... LostInAnomie Dec 2014 #46

I go on my run before the meal. cwydro Dec 2014 #124

I would run... LostInAnomie Dec 2014 #135

Ah the meat sweats. I know what helps, Paulie Dec 2014 #148

Much more effective with a slice of pecan pie adjuvant. Thor_MN Dec 2014 #176

wow that seems like a good idea d_r Dec 2014 #76

Mmmmm, bacon. Hekate Dec 2014 #190

And stuffed with pork tamales LeftInTX Dec 2014 #205

You don't eat turkey legs. MineralMan Dec 2014 #3

Amen. (nt) enough Dec 2014 #10

How do you know a person is a Vegan? They'll fucking tell you. Odin2005 Dec 2014 #27

Not all of them are. tammywammy Dec 2014 #31

Not all are proselytizers. antiquie Dec 2014 #34

That is right, I am one example. It is an individual choice, and I have never pushed being still_one Dec 2014 #62

Why do flesh-eaters act like bullies? nt Veganhealedme Dec 2014 #39

Nice projection, there. Odin2005 Dec 2014 #45

They generally mind their own business tabbycat31 Dec 2014 #51

Because Vegans act like religious fundies... MicaelS Dec 2014 #54

Wrong, flesh-eaters are the fanatics. nt Veganhealedme Dec 2014 #59

You're the one insulting people, not me. MicaelS Dec 2014 #65

And that's just childish projection Prophet 451 Dec 2014 #108

I do not think so Duckhunter935 Dec 2014 #111

YOU ARE CORRECT! Only a fanatic would make Korean BBQ Lasagna snooper2 Dec 2014 #242

Well done. I thought your OP was serious but great satire posting! It is difficult to hit it just uppityperson Dec 2014 #279

Yeah, I've never done any of that shit. Codeine Dec 2014 #121

You're my favourite DU vegan... SidDithers Dec 2014 #266

Yeah, you're going to be a real blast here. GGJohn Dec 2014 #100

There is one bully in this conversation Trajan Dec 2014 #239

I'd noticed that too Prophet 451 Dec 2014 #53

Wait, they are against lab-grown meat, too? Odin2005 Dec 2014 #60

They were when I posted it Prophet 451 Dec 2014 #70

I'd love to learn more about vat-grown meat. Silent3 Dec 2014 #256

+1000 Erich Bloodaxe BSN Dec 2014 #276

Well, here's one I could find quickly Prophet 451 Dec 2014 #286

Thanks. Silent3 Dec 2014 #289

I have zero problems with vegans. MineralMan Dec 2014 #74

Nor do I when they just get on with their own lives Prophet 451 Dec 2014 #82

No. PETA is full of fanatics. NuclearDem Dec 2014 #92

Post removed Post removed Dec 2014 #118

Sample bias jberryhill Dec 2014 #141

We are? flvegan Dec 2014 #166

My son and his wife are vegan at home, vegetarian when in company. As he says... Hekate Dec 2014 #188

That is not a representation of all vegans. MoonchildCA Dec 2014 #202

Agreed but with some limits BootinUp Dec 2014 #101

Poor public health leads to unaffordable national health care. Veganhealedme Dec 2014 #104

Hey, here's a novel solution, GGJohn Dec 2014 #112

I am totally cool with it. yeoman6987 Dec 2014 #182

As you and everyone else knows, the S.A.D. diet is CARB BASED tridim Dec 2014 #248

'Zackly. AngryOldDem Dec 2014 #219

Eating fat does not make you fat Yavin4 Dec 2014 #4

Bingo! Capt.Rocky300 Dec 2014 #22

And sleepy. progressoid Dec 2014 #138

+1 million n/t geardaddy Dec 2014 #288

Too many calories makes you fat. Marr Dec 2014 #301

Who eats a whole turkey leg? Even a vegetarian could feel sleepy midday pnwmom Dec 2014 #5

Post removed Post removed Dec 2014 #19

You do know eating a high fruit diet makes one susceptible to Pancreatic Cancer right? VanillaRhapsody Dec 2014 #69

Sorry... are you actually saying veganism prevents AIDS? Recursion Dec 2014 #71

yep Dorian Gray Dec 2014 #221

Yup. Agschmid Dec 2014 #227

if you are sabbat hunter Dec 2014 #84

From one vegan to another, a diet of fruit will fucking kill you over time. Codeine Dec 2014 #123

Plus fruit-only is really high in sugars and will be plenty bad for diabetics. Hekate Dec 2014 #198

WOW - the GOP is not the only science deniers anymore. Veganism cures AIDS now? lol! nt kelly1mm Dec 2014 #142

I think..... Drahthaardogs Dec 2014 #163

Who eats a whole turkey leg? jberryhill Dec 2014 #21

Everyone knows they eat at least under 5000 yeoman6987 Dec 2014 #8

This message was self-deleted by its author olddots Dec 2014 #9

Go team! ScreamingMeemie Dec 2014 #11

Not a whole lot of protein in a basket of fruit! elias49 Dec 2014 #12

I am 75, a vegetarian and my heart is fine also. n/t RebelOne Dec 2014 #44

Good deal! Hope I make 75! Just became a granddad! elias49 Dec 2014 #49

I'm 67, a meat eater my whole life and my heart is fine also. GGJohn Dec 2014 #109

My friend Jeff died at the age of 41.. Veganhealedme Dec 2014 #115

My dad lived until the ripe old age of 92 and was a meat eater his whole life, GGJohn Dec 2014 #120

both my grandmothers are well into their 70s Terra Alta Dec 2014 #147

Can you cite clinical data.... physioex Dec 2014 #304

Nearly meat only diet is not the same as some meat diet Sanity Claws Dec 2014 #237

1 pound of chicken breast has 440 calories, of which 5 grams of it is fat MillennialDem Dec 2014 #240

3 out of 4 grandparents made it to their 90s (one is still alive, almost 93) the 4th made it to MillennialDem Dec 2014 #241

I eat more quality protein than any meat eater. Veganhealedme Dec 2014 #55

You are full of half-truths and hyperbole. Action_Patrol Dec 2014 #102

At least give an example.. Veganhealedme Dec 2014 #105

Good for you. GGJohn Dec 2014 #116

Full of something. Unsure if it's research Action_Patrol Dec 2014 #119

Yeah, the anti-vaccine morons think they are "well-researched", too! Odin2005 Dec 2014 #139

if this is who I think it is, they are anti vax too Kali Dec 2014 #183

Hiya! Odin2005 Dec 2014 #192

See Sid's #269 at end of thread pinboy3niner Dec 2014 #278

oh yeah, he is good Kali Dec 2014 #284

Research on Mercola's websites does not count. MineralMan Dec 2014 #265

Like all those people that got e coli from a batch of bean sprouts? hobbit709 Dec 2014 #127

Bamm! geardaddy Dec 2014 #291

My gods, are you ever full of it. There are plenty of parasites that live in the soil... Hekate Dec 2014 #197

Off the top of my head? How about cyclospora? Marr Dec 2014 #303

Saturated fat is good for you. tridim Dec 2014 #13

All cooked animal saturated is inflammatory to the body. Veganhealedme Dec 2014 #86

Veganism eradicates HIV? cwydro Dec 2014 #130

can we lock this thread yet ? olddots Dec 2014 #136

Lock it? pinboy3niner Dec 2014 #168

As I read down the thead the more shocked I get yeoman6987 Dec 2014 #186

Yup. Agschmid Dec 2014 #260

I'm with you pinboy3niner! geardaddy Dec 2014 #293

Lol...nt Jesus Malverde Dec 2014 #309

OK, that's just a flat lie Prophet 451 Dec 2014 #159

Well... catnhatnh Dec 2014 #161

This post Dorian Gray Dec 2014 #222

When someone compares veganism to a religion and wants to show a good example of how hughee99 Dec 2014 #264

What is purified meat? Polly Hennessey Dec 2014 #274

Bacon. geardaddy Dec 2014 #294

Bull. I've looked up plenty of intestines and that 30# crap is a big myth, to be polite uppityperson Dec 2014 #280

Yeah, but tammywammy Dec 2014 #287

Any actual evidence to phil89 Dec 2014 #14

Seriously doubt it. nt elias49 Dec 2014 #52

*crickets* Prophet 451 Dec 2014 #56

FACT: I wasn't tired after eating turkey, stuffing, mashed potatoes, gravy, green bean casserole.... titaniumsalute Dec 2014 #72

I give you a lot of credit LiberalElite Dec 2014 #15

In this case I think the delivery hurts the message. Throd Dec 2014 #26

You have a point - LiberalElite Dec 2014 #32

Your schtick is tiresome. n/t tammywammy Dec 2014 #17

Facts hurt, sometimes. nt Veganhealedme Dec 2014 #37

Your delivery could use some help. tammywammy Dec 2014 #41

Here's my fact. GGJohn Dec 2014 #133

You forgot Lamb. bravenak Dec 2014 #285

YES!!!! GGJohn Dec 2014 #306

Meat is yummy Lurks Often Dec 2014 #18

I like a good medium rare steak. I like to savor the bloody moistness as I chew it. nt ChisolmTrailDem Dec 2014 #81

I like my steak Aerows Dec 2014 #223

Lol... ChisolmTrailDem Dec 2014 #252

Indeed! Aerows Dec 2014 #275

try as I might olddots Dec 2014 #20

I eat maybe an ounce of turkey TG day. ileus Dec 2014 #23

Teenage boys will, just my experience. The ones I know inhale food at an enormous rate. Mnemosyne Dec 2014 #99

I have boys Bettie Dec 2014 #225

Who would eat an entire turkey leg? Maybe this guy... GReedDiamond Dec 2014 #215

The notion that fat is bad for your heart has been debunked. Odin2005 Dec 2014 #24

And the hydrogenated vegetable oils (nt) Recursion Dec 2014 #66

oh my goodness. Just like fat if you eat carbs in moderation it will not kill you. liberal_at_heart Dec 2014 #128

The problem with carbs isn't that they are bad for you directly MillennialDem Dec 2014 #243

Debunked by whom? The American Fatty Meat Producers Association? Art_from_Ark Dec 2014 #307

Mayo is behind the times. Odin2005 Dec 2014 #308

Someone, alert the Mayo Clinic! Art_from_Ark Dec 2014 #313

Ooh, ooh, can I suggest a topical twist to your rant? jberryhill Dec 2014 #25

Haha!!! tammywammy Dec 2014 #33

And they're dressed like flesheaters! DisgustipatedinCA Dec 2014 #87

Looking for a spot in a slaughterhouse those ghouls! jberryhill Dec 2014 #89

Eating that once a year kills you? Hyperpole?? madinmaryland Dec 2014 #28

Why should foot not make you tired? Shivering Jemmy Dec 2014 #30

It's just the leg. The foot is usually removed. jberryhill Dec 2014 #35

And saved for trading pinboy3niner Dec 2014 #77

I like the way they do up chicken feet for dim sum jberryhill Dec 2014 #85

You wont see any turkey on my table on christmas Travis_0004 Dec 2014 #36

"heart killing saturated fat"... sendero Dec 2014 #38

I get 80% or more of my calories now from meat and animal fats. GliderGuider Dec 2014 #122

The religion group is that way -----> aikoaiko Dec 2014 #40

Veganism certainly seems like one, doesn't it? Odin2005 Dec 2014 #47

At least as it's practiced by some veganistas. aikoaiko Dec 2014 #50

I would totally pay to see the cage match.... n/t TygrBright Dec 2014 #140

I think it would have to be a cage-free match jberryhill Dec 2014 #236

That goes without saying pinboy3niner Dec 2014 #258

I ate some non-plants on Thanksgiving. JEFF9K Dec 2014 #42

Vegan didn't do much for your annoying self-rightousness hobbit709 Dec 2014 #43

Ouch. That might leave a mark. elias49 Dec 2014 #57

I'm successfully treating my HIV with veganism Veganhealedme Dec 2014 #91

Name any ailment successfully cured by meat? pinboy3niner Dec 2014 #97

LOL, zing. GGJohn Dec 2014 #150

LOL! n/t JimDandy Dec 2014 #154

That was perfect!!!!! yeoman6987 Dec 2014 #189

You win the thread! geardaddy Dec 2014 #296

right! and the moon is made of green cheese as far as your HIV cure goes hobbit709 Dec 2014 #98

So you theaten violence eh.. nt Veganhealedme Dec 2014 #110

I don't make threats. hobbit709 Dec 2014 #113

*snicker* flvegan Dec 2014 #170

I'm a vegetarian, not far from vegan. Your veganism has not a damn thing to do with your HIV status. HERVEPA Dec 2014 #117

My HIV specialist would laugh at how wrong your comment is.. Veganhealedme Dec 2014 #152

You have left out some very important facts William769 Dec 2014 #201

Good advice William. sheshe2 Dec 2014 #207

I see you picked up that whiff also. William769 Dec 2014 #208

I have a good nose, snort~ sheshe2 Dec 2014 #210

Given freely to one & all. William769 Dec 2014 #211

That is what I love about you~ sheshe2 Dec 2014 #214

Alerted and survived 3-4 Prophet 451 Dec 2014 #155

Anemia Drahthaardogs Dec 2014 #171

No you're not. Christ almighty, that's stupid and dangerous. LeftyMom Dec 2014 #209

You were more eloquent than I could ever hope to be. William769 Dec 2014 #212

I thank you LeftyMom! sheshe2 Dec 2014 #213

Very well said. HERVEPA Dec 2014 #231

Excellent post as usual, LeftyMom. Didn't Steve Jobs try diet to cure R B Garr Dec 2014 #259

Yup. Agschmid Dec 2014 #261

"I'm successfully treating my HIV with veganism" LondonReign2 Dec 2014 #230

and people wonder why vegans have a bad reputation tabbycat31 Dec 2014 #48

Get down off that cross, my turn. Rex Dec 2014 #58

Animal fat is not the problem. Hydrogenated vegetable fat and sugar is (nt) Recursion Dec 2014 #61

My Prom Date is Parkin' with Grand Moff Tarkin Action_Patrol Dec 2014 #63

Oh get down off your high horse and stop your preaching to people who are perfectly capable ChisolmTrailDem Dec 2014 #64

Incorrect information Android3.14 Dec 2014 #67

UNREC brooklynite Dec 2014 #68

Eat (or don't eat) whatever you want. Others will do the same. n/t nomorenomore08 Dec 2014 #73

A nation of sick people is a nation with unaffordable healthcare. nt Veganhealedme Dec 2014 #94

True enough. Most of us could stand to eat a lot less red meat (I've cut down substantially myself). nomorenomore08 Dec 2014 #137

Fruit for Thanksgiving? Channeling Frank Barone. chrisa Dec 2014 #75

your numbers are wrong sabbat hunter Dec 2014 #78

Cherries, bananas, oatmeal can all promote sleep ctaylors6 Dec 2014 #79

Don't forget the red wine...which goes great with Turkey! brooklynite Dec 2014 #126

Yeah, I'm glad the whole "red wine with red meat only" myth is finally being abandoned Recursion Dec 2014 #162

Trust me...the red wine was the only thing that got me through Thanksgiving...nt msanthrope Dec 2014 #257

This is just a lot of bullshit Prophet 451 Dec 2014 #80

The OP also seems to be under the impression Bettie Dec 2014 #232

Hmmm vegan nut cutlets... geardaddy Dec 2014 #297

k/r nationalize the fed Dec 2014 #83

Almost every vegan I know is overweight nichomachus Dec 2014 #88

Meet 70+ year old Vegan Mimi Kirk nationalize the fed Dec 2014 #184

Are you always this incorrect? HERVEPA Dec 2014 #234

Frankenturkey... TeeYiYi Dec 2014 #90

And by 2030.... jberryhill Dec 2014 #144

Good gravy giblets Batman! Rex Dec 2014 #181

We're gonna need a bigger oven. HappyMe Dec 2014 #233

If this were on SciFi, the government would make an equally large crocodile to eat the turkey. chrisa Dec 2014 #300

It would be Megacroc vs. Turkeynado! pinboy3niner Dec 2014 #302

I hunt, kill and dress our own Turkeys, GGJohn Dec 2014 #93

And this, ladies and gentlemen, is how you don't advocate for veganism. NuclearDem Dec 2014 #95

I'm late for the show.... neverforget Dec 2014 #106

I prefer a nice Duckhunter935 Dec 2014 #107

sorry don't like to be proselytized to. I will always advocate for changing the way liberal_at_heart Dec 2014 #114

I had a turkey leg, mashed potatos/gravy and stuffing for breakfast this morning. bearssoapbox Dec 2014 #125

I eat lots of meat. I also eat plenty of fruits and veggies. Terra Alta Dec 2014 #129

And is delicious sarisataka Dec 2014 #131

As the Yiddish author Isaac Bashevis Singer once said: mucifer Dec 2014 #132

For a turkey leg to have 1100 calories, it would have to have 2 lbs of edible meat and skin. Gormy Cuss Dec 2014 #134

Trader Joe's to the rescue armed_and_liberal Dec 2014 #143

Your numbers are way off BlindTiresias Dec 2014 #145

Actually, the calories are 417 for a roasted turkey leg, with skin PADemD Dec 2014 #174

really depends on the size of the turkey BlindTiresias Dec 2014 #194

That calorie count was for an 11.5 oz leg. PADemD Dec 2014 #199

What an insanely fortunate life. Socal31 Dec 2014 #146

You miserable troll. LAGC Dec 2014 #149

mmmm....protein Roland99 Dec 2014 #151

an angry vegan gimmick d_b Dec 2014 #153

You need to read the latest research and you'll find you are dead-ass wrong. nt Lex Dec 2014 #157

I don't think it's the food that puts people to sleep.. fadedrose Dec 2014 #158

, blkmusclmachine Dec 2014 #160

THIS JUST IN !!!! olddots Dec 2014 #165

Tonight I had a healthy all-vegetarian meal of curried chick peas, mustard greens and roast carrots brooklynite Dec 2014 #193

No. I Looked It Up Leith Dec 2014 #167

no, they only link to nutty whack job sites if they ever have a link Kali Dec 2014 #191

It's probably higher if you grind up the whole leg... tridim Dec 2014 #246

From a vegan who has been here a while: don't bother. flvegan Dec 2014 #172

It helps if Duckhunter935 Dec 2014 #177

Is that what the OP did? flvegan Dec 2014 #185

Can the OP at least be realistic yeoman6987 Dec 2014 #200

I didn't do any of that. flvegan Dec 2014 #204

Yes. As well as attempting to sell lies as truths. uppityperson Dec 2014 #282

The smug "look at me" OP doesn't exactly endear folks to the cause LordGlenconner Dec 2014 #263

what hurts is the utter dumbness of someone advocating a vegan diet to eradicate HIV La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2014 #272

"heart killing animal saturated fat" Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2014 #178

I'm happy you found a diet that makes you feel well, KMOD Dec 2014 #180

I am not a huge carnivore, more of a omnivore... DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2014 #187

It isn't Thanksgiving without the Sarah Palin turkey pardoning classic Generic Other Dec 2014 #195

I Prefer Alice's Restaurant Leith Dec 2014 #268

As of today, it's turkey leg... pinboy3niner Dec 2014 #196

we enjoyed a delicious roasted leg of lamb hopemountain Dec 2014 #203

I had mashed potatoes, stuffing, two kinds of gravy, lentil-walnut loaf, rum glazed yams and a pie. LeftyMom Dec 2014 #206

"Sinners! Sinners in the hands of an angry god!" Warren DeMontague Dec 2014 #216

God damn, I could go for some more turkey ProudToBeBlueInRhody Dec 2014 #217

I don't know about any of that stuff, but I do know this... geomon666 Dec 2014 #218

Everyone should just eat what they want to. HappyMe Dec 2014 #220

Yawn... Drivel like this gets posted around Thanksgiving every year. badtoworse Dec 2014 #224

Is it hard to come down off that cross and talk to us proles? eom TransitJohn Dec 2014 #228

nothing more annoying than an ex-smoker lame54 Dec 2014 #229

I exercised much more than you then ate my turkey then fell asleep. Threedifferentones Dec 2014 #235

It is a good thing your parents gave you meat as a kid, otherwise you wouldn't be posting here snooper2 Dec 2014 #244

Link, because I call BS Reter Dec 2014 #245

He/she grabbed that from the online stats for Festival food. ScreamingMeemie Dec 2014 #249

Good catch. Those numbers did Lex Dec 2014 #292

Translation: "I'm more liberal than you" FSogol Dec 2014 #250

My father has been eating turkey legs frazzled Dec 2014 #251

I clean after big meals HockeyMom Dec 2014 #254

well, there are in fact only two numbers that accurately score how good an item of food taste Douglas Carpenter Dec 2014 #255

Only 1100 Calories and 44 Grams? Well good thing I ate both the damn legs, wings and dilby Dec 2014 #262

I could have gone for a nap after my banana this morning. bigwillq Dec 2014 #267

Something seems familiar about this thread... SidDithers Dec 2014 #269

NICE CATCH! pinboy3niner Dec 2014 #273

you are incredibly idiotic. what is dangerous is advocating a vegan diet for HIV La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2014 #270

Quit feeding bacon to the vegan troll you guys! Cal Carpenter Dec 2014 #271

Our bodies need protein to operate fully. B Calm Dec 2014 #281

Of course bodies need protein. Plant protein is better nationalize the fed Dec 2014 #290

Animal proteins deliver the amino acids we need. B Calm Dec 2014 #311

How much estrogen is there in 9oz of Tofu. Jesus Malverde Dec 2014 #312

Good to know the turkey debate is still going on... brooklynite Dec 2014 #295

I can't wait for the next debaste turkey thread! pinboy3niner Dec 2014 #299

Food making you tired does *not* mean it's unhealthy. Marr Dec 2014 #298

And worth every calorie. Especially if deep fried Left2Tackle Dec 2014 #305

But I like the dressing most of all, so there hankthecrank Dec 2014 #310