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customerserviceguy

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54. There's another one, too

Fri Dec 5, 2014, 07:20 AM

Dec 2014

And it does need to be pursued in parallel with your idea.

I was not surprised by the Gardner case non-indictment, because of the local culture of corruption here. Lots of people have police benefit association stickers on their bumpers, because the first thing they want a cop to know about them is that they suck up to LEO's. Beyond that, anybody who is a friend of a friend of a cop can get an annual wallet card to hand over with their driver license on a traffic stop, and possibly get away with whatever violation they were pulled over for.

Add to that the official instances of this, if you're a member of the NYC police force, and live in NJ, you can get a special license plate that says that. Even the New Jersey cops have a code "P" at the beginning of their driver license number to tell other cops to let them off the hook.

That shit didn't fly where I came from in the Northwest. A few years ago, a woman got busted for DWI, and it didn't matter to the State Patrol that she was a Washington State Supreme Court Justice. People here in the Northeast think I'm making it up when I tell them that story.

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There is only ONE road back to a respected police force. [View all] obxhead Dec 2014 OP

And those who assist and cover for them, too!! arcane1 Dec 2014 #1

Take their guns away. Works in other countries. closeupready Dec 2014 #2

It works because the populace is not heavily armed BrotherIvan Dec 2014 #4

So we start disarming with the police.... daleanime Dec 2014 #6

"So we start disarming with the police...." ColesCountyDem Dec 2014 #7

Why? If you feel that police must have the ability to kill some one 24/7.... daleanime Dec 2014 #9

Because I want to know how you propose to make it work. ColesCountyDem Dec 2014 #11

Because we can't agree on a desired end? daleanime Dec 2014 #44

Simple debate rules. ColesCountyDem Dec 2014 #50

Simple rule.... daleanime Dec 2014 #56

Or posit propositions which one hasn't thought all the way through. n/t ColesCountyDem Dec 2014 #58

Enforce the 2nd amendment and take all guns away to a well regulated militia NoJusticeNoPeace Dec 2014 #76

Unfortunately, the Supreme Court doesn't agree with your interpretation of the 2nd Amendment. ColesCountyDem Dec 2014 #77

They make mistakes all the time. Especially lately NoJusticeNoPeace Dec 2014 #78

Until they rule differently in another case, it's the law of the land. n/t ColesCountyDem Dec 2014 #79

I agree with your OP, by the way. n/t ColesCountyDem Dec 2014 #51

Maybe only highly skilled and people who have proven themselves to be sabrina 1 Dec 2014 #64

Not every community has the luxury of specialized units of police officers. ColesCountyDem Dec 2014 #66

Well then, let's start with the problem of a country 'awash with weapons'. sabrina 1 Dec 2014 #69

And you propose to do what to solve that? ColesCountyDem Dec 2014 #74

Strategically placed banana peels should help. Ed Suspicious Dec 2014 #12

As well as bulletin boards stating "We don't plan to commit any violent crimes today". n/t ColesCountyDem Dec 2014 #13

And they should ride unicorns. Throd Dec 2014 #39

Same way they do elsewhere. Have an elite force for dealing with those situations uppityperson Dec 2014 #20

Other countries are not absolutely awash in firearms. ColesCountyDem Dec 2014 #22

Exactly, we'd have to start by reducing guns among populace, gun cultists ain't gonna give them up Hoyt Dec 2014 #52

Yes obxhead Dec 2014 #23

They have bullet proof armor they get from the station and tazers. ncjustice80 Dec 2014 #57

Not all officers have tasers, and 'bullet proof' is a misnomer. ColesCountyDem Dec 2014 #59

They dont all have body cameras either, guess that means they shouldnt be made to buy them? ncjustice80 Dec 2014 #63

So, that means criminals should have guns, but police officers shouldn't? ColesCountyDem Dec 2014 #65

No one SHOULD have guns imo. ncjustice80 Dec 2014 #68

But people DO have them. ColesCountyDem Dec 2014 #72

So? Overzealous police have shown they cant be trusted with guns. ncjustice80 Dec 2014 #81

Nothing like a broad brush for painting, eh? ColesCountyDem Dec 2014 #83

Few KKK members actually carry out any killings. ncjustice80 Dec 2014 #84

This analogy has what to do with anything? ColesCountyDem Dec 2014 #86

The broadbrush is sometimes the correct for the job. ncjustice80 Dec 2014 #87

It's never correct for the job. ColesCountyDem Dec 2014 #89

Lol ok. ncjustice80 Dec 2014 #90

There's a huge difference between defending racist pigs and ridiculing unworkable proposals. n/t ColesCountyDem Dec 2014 #91

They would deal with armed robberies the same... meaculpa2011 Dec 2014 #85

What about small departments? ColesCountyDem Dec 2014 #88

You're right. Stupid idea. n/t meaculpa2011 Dec 2014 #92

they don't deal with gun humping cowards Skittles Dec 2014 #61

yes, he w many stories do we need to read where an officer has murdered obxhead Dec 2014 #62

They ARE gun humping cowards. ncjustice80 Dec 2014 #70

the police in other countries? Skittles Dec 2014 #71

This message was self-deleted by its author Corruption Inc Dec 2014 #3

If you can prove better than 1% status. obxhead Dec 2014 #8

I think the fastest way to stop it is to make sure every judgement BrotherIvan Dec 2014 #5

I like this idea. Take it out of their pension fund. Maineman Dec 2014 #10

I didn't think of it, but it is the best idea I've heard. BrotherIvan Dec 2014 #37

Also, change hiring practices. demmiblue Dec 2014 #14

Socialist Revolution would also do it, methinks. But, yeah, if we're going to KingCharlemagne Dec 2014 #15

A good and proper police force obxhead Dec 2014 #19

Great minds think alike! As someone far more famous and wise than I shall ever be once said: KingCharlemagne Dec 2014 #45

Exactly. 99Forever Dec 2014 #16

People who administer lethal force under government agency should be held to a higher standard. MindPilot Dec 2014 #17

+1000 baldguy Dec 2014 #18

what if the police don't care heaven05 Dec 2014 #21

They can only survive if we respect them. obxhead Dec 2014 #24

Then cut them off from the herd, break their union, degrade their authority TheKentuckian Dec 2014 #32

wow heaven05 Dec 2014 #36

It's not the union obxhead Dec 2014 #40

That is a very critical piece of it but still far from the whole picture TheKentuckian Dec 2014 #49

There is no back. We have never had a respected police force librechik Dec 2014 #25

Surprisingly good answer...accountability, consequences, commitment to service, one law for great TheKentuckian Dec 2014 #26

First you have to pass laws that define police brutality as a crime. Kablooie Dec 2014 #27

No we don't. obxhead Dec 2014 #30

"Why It's Impossible to Indict a Cop" Kablooie Dec 2014 #43

I don't want a respected police force. I want a respectable one. nt valerief Dec 2014 #28

The ONLY way to get a respected police force obxhead Dec 2014 #31

I don't care if they're respected or not. I still want them to act respectably. nt valerief Dec 2014 #33

right obxhead Dec 2014 #34

Actually we should have a police force that is respectFUL tularetom Dec 2014 #42

Even better! valerief Dec 2014 #47

back ? JI7 Dec 2014 #29

I agree, and... ReRe Dec 2014 #35

The double standard obxhead Dec 2014 #38

Probably more about amending the Law Albertoo Dec 2014 #41

Correction: WAS "one of the most respected institutions in the US." NutmegYankee Dec 2014 #46

Wait, so 'equal protection under the law'-- except for those cop pigs? X_Digger Dec 2014 #48

A change in the laws would help a GREAT deal. ColesCountyDem Dec 2014 #53

There's another one, too customerserviceguy Dec 2014 #54

K&R! This post deserves hundreds of recommendations! Enthusiast Dec 2014 #55

Plus the matter of budgeting for realistic staffing and wages, and oversight. Orsino Dec 2014 #60

Also any cops that are a witness to the other cop breaking the law helpmetohelpyou Dec 2014 #67

They will never do that... davidn3600 Dec 2014 #73

Then there are no good cops helpmetohelpyou Dec 2014 #75

A good cop becomes a bad cop the first time he/she looks the other way. obxhead Dec 2014 #80

Most people either already respect the police or never will. Donald Ian Rankin Dec 2014 #82