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19. "USA Today: Obama, Bush teams battle over torture report."

Tue Dec 9, 2014, 09:59 PM

Dec 2014

Obama's not ignoring it. He argued for releasing it over strong Rethug opposition.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/theoval/2014/12/09/obama-bush-senate-torture-report-dick-cheney/20129507/

Supporters of two very different presidents — Barack Obama and George W. Bush — are bracing for battle over Tuesday's Senate report on what Obama backers call "torture" and what Bush backers call "enhanced interrogation techniques."

While Obama and aides support release of the report as a way to prevent future abuses, some former Bush administration officials call it partisan second-guessing of CIA techniques that proved necessary during the war on terrorism.

"What I keep hearing out there is they portray this as a rogue operation and the agency was way out of bounds and then they lied about it," former vice president Dick Cheney told The New York Times. "I think that's all a bunch of hooey. The program was authorized. The agency did not want to proceed without authorization, and it was also reviewed legally by the Justice Department before they undertook the program."

Current administration officials said Obama supports release of the report by the Senate Intelligence Committee.

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Lets call forced rectal feeding what it really is: [View all] JaneyVee Dec 2014 OP

Everything done to those people was onecaliberal Dec 2014 #1

But the DOJ still likes to play patty cakes with Dark Dick and the Chimp boy GW. blkmusclmachine Dec 2014 #11

and let's not forget George Tennant vlyons Dec 2014 #20

It all makes me so angry. onecaliberal Dec 2014 #27

and don't let Powell off the hook either! n/t wildbilln864 Dec 2014 #29

All of them are responsibe for heaven05 Dec 2014 #48

Cut off the snake's head demwing Dec 2014 #62

ten-four heaven05 Dec 2014 #69

George Tenet provided Republicans with cover as they claimed he was a former Clinton appointee... Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2014 #61

That alone....the definition of a human rights crime...physical assault while in detention, without Fred Sanders Dec 2014 #2

Medical whitewashing is the term that I found apt. gvstn Dec 2014 #3

That fugging simple malaise Dec 2014 #4

Is "rectal feeding" Cruel and Unusual Punishment? .. Amendment VIII of Bill of Rights...K and R Stuart G Dec 2014 #5

It seems that the only amendment that matters to Republicans is the second. Initech Dec 2014 #24

"Cruel and unusual punishment" and other constitutional protections only apply to US Citizens. The Erose999 Dec 2014 #45

Yeah, but "rectal hydration" sounds so much nicer. trof Dec 2014 #6

because sometimes so dehydrated from thirst that was the only way to get fluid in them. Sunlei Dec 2014 #55

There was an actual REAL sexual assault(s) admitted to as well Blue_Tires Dec 2014 #7

Wonder what was in the redacted pages? blkmusclmachine Dec 2014 #8

Image URL: http://www.digitaljournal.com/img/9/9/5/4/2/4/i/1/3/8/o/abu-torture2.jpeg blkmusclmachine Dec 2014 #9

Yes, please, please put a warning or delete it. OMG is right! mimi85 Dec 2014 #17

omg.......please put a warning on that picture. nt msanthrope Dec 2014 #12

really? heaven05 Dec 2014 #49

you know MFM008 Dec 2014 #64

Werent they raping children in Abu Ghraib? 951-Riverside Dec 2014 #13

Yes grahamhgreen Dec 2014 #31

Obama withheld the release of the video. Jesus Malverde Dec 2014 #73

Remember how they blamed it all on an out of control national guard unit. Jesus Malverde Dec 2014 #66

Forced rectal feeding protects Amdeddicca. L0oniX Dec 2014 #10

Read this if you can stand it.This was an excuse to fuck them in the ass with large tubes. elehhhhna Dec 2014 #14

I agree. This is sexual abuse, plain and simple. yourmovemonkey Dec 2014 #23

Nothing excuses heaven05 Dec 2014 #50

Remember this story? Oilwellian Dec 2014 #15

And their family on the outside were trying anything they could think of Lars39 Dec 2014 #16

I remember. It has haunted me all the years since. johnnyreb Dec 2014 #22

That is the one article that still seers my brain. nt. polly7 Dec 2014 #39

I am sick to my stomach... Rockyj Dec 2014 #52

And still our President meekly ignores the whole damn thing. DrBulldog Dec 2014 #18

"USA Today: Obama, Bush teams battle over torture report." pnwmom Dec 2014 #19

Will he prosecute? Not prosecuting is complicity, IMHO. grahamhgreen Dec 2014 #32

The ACLU is advocating for him to issue a pardon. Are they complicit, too? nt pnwmom Dec 2014 #34

Yes. grahamhgreen Dec 2014 #58

potus's job is to enforce the law of the land questionseverything Dec 2014 #59

What pardon? Has anyone been charged? I must mimi85 Dec 2014 #67

President Ford issued a pardon to Nixon, preempting any charges. pnwmom Dec 2014 #68

Ok, I remember now. I thought the OP was mimi85 Dec 2014 #70

And "when the President does it, it's not illegal". grahamhgreen Dec 2014 #78

+10000000 woo me with science Dec 2014 #77

Our President ordered this report 5 years ago. The full report needs to be released now. Sunlei Dec 2014 #56

... Jamaal510 Dec 2014 #21

I've been raped, and call this assault. it is horrendous enough as assault. uppityperson Dec 2014 #25

And Obama knows all of this and more and yet he calls it sanctimonious to object to it. Bluenorthwest Dec 2014 #26

You are absolutely correct JaneyVee, forced rectal feeding is rape/sexual assault. Dont call me Shirley Dec 2014 #28

I sense a scathing Rude Pundit post on the horizon Blue Owl Dec 2014 #30

There aren't words rude enough to aptly describe these low-lifes lame54 Dec 2014 #47

I agree Aerows Dec 2014 #33

It makes the military advertisements nothing but hypocrisy. "A force for good." Enthusiast Dec 2014 #37

... Solly Mack Dec 2014 #35

You're just too sensitive, JaneyVee. Enthusiast Dec 2014 #36

How sanctimonious. After all, these were "patriots" and they were "under stress". Scuba Dec 2014 #38

Maybe the prisoners were wearing something sexy and therefore asking for it. Orrex Dec 2014 #40

There is no excuse for this conduct Gothmog Dec 2014 #41

Prosecute everyone. bigwillq Dec 2014 #42

Agreed Derek V Dec 2014 #43

k and r nashville_brook Dec 2014 #44

I now one thing it ain't - it ain't no hoot and coffee ain't gonna make it better and anarchy Tuesday Afternoon Dec 2014 #46

K & R !!! WillyT Dec 2014 #51

was there not ONE Doctor, not one who would refuse!! wtf is the matter with people!! Sunlei Dec 2014 #53

this was some of the stuff Dan Mitrione taught MisterP Dec 2014 #54

Hey, with nine children dhol82 Dec 2014 #57

heinous. what about the forced feeding hopemountain Dec 2014 #60

Keep this kicked hifiguy Dec 2014 #63

a sickened k and r niyad Dec 2014 #65

I call it mstinamotorcity2 Dec 2014 #71

K&R nt myrna minx Dec 2014 #72

what it really is and really should be called is torture TorchTheWitch Dec 2014 #74

I can remember a few years ago, when a number of DUers were adamantly defending Crunchy Frog Dec 2014 #75

kick woo me with science Dec 2014 #76

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