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merrily

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1. It may be worse now, but people in other countries have thought we are outlaws

Reply to another_liberal (Original post)

Wed Dec 10, 2014, 08:52 AM

Dec 2014

for a long time. I guess their media hasn't been dwelling on whether Selena and Justin are together this week or who Angelina was wearing as much as ours does.

Iching posted a good article about what to keep in mind as you read the report.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=5929038

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In the eyes of the World, we are now an outlaw nation. [View all] another_liberal Dec 2014 OP

It may be worse now, but people in other countries have thought we are outlaws merrily Dec 2014 #1

It's possible that LiberalElite Dec 2014 #2

Kim's done Dubai, more than once I think. merrily Dec 2014 #4

Thanks for the link . . . another_liberal Dec 2014 #7

Yep. His OPs are always very worthwhile, IMO. merrily Dec 2014 #10

I wonder if they will refuse our aid and money? yeoman6987 Dec 2014 #83

A stranger refusing to take your money would make you improve your behavior? merrily Dec 2014 #90

Well these countries are not strangers yeoman6987 Dec 2014 #91

Yes, they are. Embarrass the US? Yes, that's what guides our realpolitik. merrily Dec 2014 #92

Oh my God! You are right yeoman6987 Dec 2014 #93

Torture by the US is not about whether other countries take US aid merrily Dec 2014 #95

Great. Now even a country where journalists get assassinated gets to criticize the US. DetlefK Dec 2014 #3

If only there were some way we could have avoided that. merrily Dec 2014 #5

like counting the votes. robinlynne Dec 2014 #37

Do the UN, Human Rights Watch and Amnesty International "assassinate" journalists? another_liberal Dec 2014 #6

A said "country" and RT is the russian version of Fox News. DetlefK Dec 2014 #14

Whom are they quoting? another_liberal Dec 2014 #19

I don't deny anything. I call RT hypocrites. DetlefK Dec 2014 #21

If trashing RT is all you want to do . . . another_liberal Dec 2014 #57

Much as if defending the RT is all you want to do... LanternWaste Dec 2014 #64

My OP has a very clear topic . . . another_liberal Dec 2014 #71

No, but the Russian authorities do War Horse Dec 2014 #68

"Russian authorities" assassinate journalists? reorg Dec 2014 #69

56 journalists killed in Russia since 1992. NuclearDem Dec 2014 #96

Actually, it says 36 since 1992 reorg Dec 2014 #100

No, it's 56 killed. NuclearDem Dec 2014 #101

I cited the rather sympathetic report on Anna Politkovskaya reorg Dec 2014 #102

Very relevant point War Horse Dec 2014 #63

Actually you have been for a while now. GliderGuider Dec 2014 #8

The Invasion of Iraq without cause in 2003 was enough proof for me . . . another_liberal Dec 2014 #12

The worst was the way they sold Iraq on TV. With Condi Rice's mushroom cloud warning Enthusiast Dec 2014 #33

I remember PatSeg Dec 2014 #42

Training the El Salvadorean Death Squads in Honduras back in the early eighties was enough for me davekriss Dec 2014 #43

I was young (and naive) enough then to buy into the lies and excuses . . . another_liberal Dec 2014 #44

they were the first to know reddread Dec 2014 #9

RT. LOL... SidDithers Dec 2014 #11

Calls for prosecution from the United Nations, Human Rights Watch and Amnesty International . . . another_liberal Dec 2014 #17

Ok, how about The Guardian and Associated Press? Gonna rofl at that too? Electric Monk Dec 2014 #52

Jose Rodriquez on This Morning now. merrily Dec 2014 #13

Is that really a change in attitude for much of the world? HereSince1628 Dec 2014 #15

I don't think the world Live and Learn Dec 2014 #16

Do you really think it's possible to "negate" what this report details? another_liberal Dec 2014 #18

The first step is admitting you have a problem. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Dec 2014 #20

Unless you only pay attention to MSM marym625 Dec 2014 #22

RT. LOL stonecutter357 Dec 2014 #23

I will believe Thespian2 Dec 2014 #24

This is getting to be ludicrous. randome Dec 2014 #25

So, we're not all in this together? n/t ReRe Dec 2014 #30

Your sins are not mine and vice-versa. I'm not your Jesus and you're not mine. randome Dec 2014 #34

Sounds a bit... ReRe Dec 2014 #35

So does 'outlaw nation'. Except it's 'we-we-we'. randome Dec 2014 #38

Do you oppose or support the use of torture? Scootaloo Dec 2014 #80

My opinion doesn't matter in the context of the OP. randome Dec 2014 #88

Good. So those who employed and authorized torture ought to face charges? Scootaloo Dec 2014 #94

In a just world, yes. But we don't live there. randome Dec 2014 #105

So, for political expediency, our nation is letting them get away with it. Scootaloo Dec 2014 #112

I see it more as being in the grip of a cultural ice age. randome Dec 2014 #115

No one requires anyone to read my posts . . . another_liberal Dec 2014 #47

Really? So someone telling you we don't appreciate Russian propaganda on this site... randome Dec 2014 #109

Me? another_liberal Dec 2014 #110

Whoah. Did not see that one coming. Kitties win the debate every time. randome Dec 2014 #111

Hey, if you and others are going feel free to indulge in off-topic tangents . . . another_liberal Dec 2014 #113

NOW? For many countries TBF Dec 2014 #26

No kidding, ask any South American country n/t arcane1 Dec 2014 #61

RT? leftynyc Dec 2014 #27

Is reporting the TRUTH from a sourse you hate really worse than polly7 Dec 2014 #29

More hyperbolic nonsense leftynyc Dec 2014 #31

There is no truth from this link because there are no facts. randome Dec 2014 #32

Heaven can kiss my ass . . . another_liberal Dec 2014 #49

No - I'm actually saying that about RT leftynyc Dec 2014 #51

If you must bash Russia Today . . . another_liberal Dec 2014 #54

I believe I'll post wherever leftynyc Dec 2014 #56

Then you are being intentionally "Off Topic." another_liberal Dec 2014 #58

LOL - it's not like leftynyc Dec 2014 #65

Ok then, you'll prefer The Guardian. Here you go. Electric Monk Dec 2014 #59

I've actually already read it from leftynyc Dec 2014 #66

There are a few nations who could talk treestar Dec 2014 #28

The US has always been above international law The2ndWheel Dec 2014 #36

Would this had happened if we had a "free press"? myomy Dec 2014 #39

This point cannot be stressed enough. hifiguy Dec 2014 #48

The Whole World is Watching (NT) The Wizard Dec 2014 #40

My wife pointed out to me yesterday that, should we need to flee this KingCharlemagne Dec 2014 #41

If it comes to what you suggest . . . another_liberal Dec 2014 #50

There is one but it's not really underground Kalidurga Dec 2014 #60

More power to "Occupy!" another_liberal Dec 2014 #108

Also here. Guardian UK for those fond of shooting the messenger. Tierra_y_Libertad Dec 2014 #45

Thank you . . . another_liberal Dec 2014 #53

Here's another. NYT Tierra_y_Libertad Dec 2014 #55

That's been the case since Vietnam. hifiguy Dec 2014 #46

I'm not normally one to grave dance.... Initech Dec 2014 #62

In the eyes of *most americans*, we're an outlaw nation... and proud of it. lumberjack_jeff Dec 2014 #67

Yeah, many still believe anything "Our boys in uniform" do has just got to be justified . . . another_liberal Dec 2014 #107

da arely staircase Dec 2014 #70

Spreek Engrish . . . another_liberal Dec 2014 #76

Yes we are, but guess which country's state media arm has the least credibility to say so. NuclearDem Dec 2014 #72

The article is almost nothing but direct quotes . . . another_liberal Dec 2014 #74

Direct quotes from respected humanitarian organizations... NuclearDem Dec 2014 #77

Please try to stay on the topic of my OP . . . another_liberal Dec 2014 #78

My response was about international reaction to the report NuclearDem Dec 2014 #81

No, Nuclear, you are just bashing my source. another_liberal Dec 2014 #84

Well, your source deserves to be bashed. NuclearDem Dec 2014 #87

Write your own OP . . . another_liberal Dec 2014 #97

And if this were your site, that would mean something. NuclearDem Dec 2014 #98

K&R for exposure. JEB Dec 2014 #73

Thank you, JEB . . . another_liberal Dec 2014 #75

Auto-reset from years of cold war propaganda? JEB Dec 2014 #82

Who could have imagined we'd go through that again . . . another_liberal Dec 2014 #85

We will probably build the wall this time, but JEB Dec 2014 #86

As a matter of fact . . . another_liberal Dec 2014 #99

Latency Turbineguy Dec 2014 #79

Yes . . . another_liberal Dec 2014 #103

We need to submit to an International Criminal Court daredtowork Dec 2014 #89

If we don't agree to punish our guilty . . . another_liberal Dec 2014 #104

K&R woo me with science Dec 2014 #106

kick woo me with science Dec 2014 #114

kick woo me with science Dec 2014 #116