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36. The US has always been above international law

Reply to another_liberal (Original post)

Wed Dec 10, 2014, 11:31 AM

Dec 2014

Because the US is the one that built and maintains the international system. Who else is going to do it? The US doesn't get bombed by the US military, and it doesn't get economically sanctioned by the UN.

I wouldn't worry too much about what international opinions are from friend and foe alike. Our friends have been pretty happy that the US taxpayer has been paying for a global military, while they can use their citizens money for their social programs. As for foes? Who? Russia and China? They have moral high grounds to stand on?

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In the eyes of the World, we are now an outlaw nation. [View all] another_liberal Dec 2014 OP

It may be worse now, but people in other countries have thought we are outlaws merrily Dec 2014 #1

It's possible that LiberalElite Dec 2014 #2

Kim's done Dubai, more than once I think. merrily Dec 2014 #4

Thanks for the link . . . another_liberal Dec 2014 #7

Yep. His OPs are always very worthwhile, IMO. merrily Dec 2014 #10

I wonder if they will refuse our aid and money? yeoman6987 Dec 2014 #83

A stranger refusing to take your money would make you improve your behavior? merrily Dec 2014 #90

Well these countries are not strangers yeoman6987 Dec 2014 #91

Yes, they are. Embarrass the US? Yes, that's what guides our realpolitik. merrily Dec 2014 #92

Oh my God! You are right yeoman6987 Dec 2014 #93

Torture by the US is not about whether other countries take US aid merrily Dec 2014 #95

Great. Now even a country where journalists get assassinated gets to criticize the US. DetlefK Dec 2014 #3

If only there were some way we could have avoided that. merrily Dec 2014 #5

like counting the votes. robinlynne Dec 2014 #37

Do the UN, Human Rights Watch and Amnesty International "assassinate" journalists? another_liberal Dec 2014 #6

A said "country" and RT is the russian version of Fox News. DetlefK Dec 2014 #14

Whom are they quoting? another_liberal Dec 2014 #19

I don't deny anything. I call RT hypocrites. DetlefK Dec 2014 #21

If trashing RT is all you want to do . . . another_liberal Dec 2014 #57

Much as if defending the RT is all you want to do... LanternWaste Dec 2014 #64

My OP has a very clear topic . . . another_liberal Dec 2014 #71

No, but the Russian authorities do War Horse Dec 2014 #68

"Russian authorities" assassinate journalists? reorg Dec 2014 #69

56 journalists killed in Russia since 1992. NuclearDem Dec 2014 #96

Actually, it says 36 since 1992 reorg Dec 2014 #100

No, it's 56 killed. NuclearDem Dec 2014 #101

I cited the rather sympathetic report on Anna Politkovskaya reorg Dec 2014 #102

Very relevant point War Horse Dec 2014 #63

Actually you have been for a while now. GliderGuider Dec 2014 #8

The Invasion of Iraq without cause in 2003 was enough proof for me . . . another_liberal Dec 2014 #12

The worst was the way they sold Iraq on TV. With Condi Rice's mushroom cloud warning Enthusiast Dec 2014 #33

I remember PatSeg Dec 2014 #42

Training the El Salvadorean Death Squads in Honduras back in the early eighties was enough for me davekriss Dec 2014 #43

I was young (and naive) enough then to buy into the lies and excuses . . . another_liberal Dec 2014 #44

they were the first to know reddread Dec 2014 #9

RT. LOL... SidDithers Dec 2014 #11

Calls for prosecution from the United Nations, Human Rights Watch and Amnesty International . . . another_liberal Dec 2014 #17

Ok, how about The Guardian and Associated Press? Gonna rofl at that too? Electric Monk Dec 2014 #52

Jose Rodriquez on This Morning now. merrily Dec 2014 #13

Is that really a change in attitude for much of the world? HereSince1628 Dec 2014 #15

I don't think the world Live and Learn Dec 2014 #16

Do you really think it's possible to "negate" what this report details? another_liberal Dec 2014 #18

The first step is admitting you have a problem. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Dec 2014 #20

Unless you only pay attention to MSM marym625 Dec 2014 #22

RT. LOL stonecutter357 Dec 2014 #23

I will believe Thespian2 Dec 2014 #24

This is getting to be ludicrous. randome Dec 2014 #25

So, we're not all in this together? n/t ReRe Dec 2014 #30

Your sins are not mine and vice-versa. I'm not your Jesus and you're not mine. randome Dec 2014 #34

Sounds a bit... ReRe Dec 2014 #35

So does 'outlaw nation'. Except it's 'we-we-we'. randome Dec 2014 #38

Do you oppose or support the use of torture? Scootaloo Dec 2014 #80

My opinion doesn't matter in the context of the OP. randome Dec 2014 #88

Good. So those who employed and authorized torture ought to face charges? Scootaloo Dec 2014 #94

In a just world, yes. But we don't live there. randome Dec 2014 #105

So, for political expediency, our nation is letting them get away with it. Scootaloo Dec 2014 #112

I see it more as being in the grip of a cultural ice age. randome Dec 2014 #115

No one requires anyone to read my posts . . . another_liberal Dec 2014 #47

Really? So someone telling you we don't appreciate Russian propaganda on this site... randome Dec 2014 #109

Me? another_liberal Dec 2014 #110

Whoah. Did not see that one coming. Kitties win the debate every time. randome Dec 2014 #111

Hey, if you and others are going feel free to indulge in off-topic tangents . . . another_liberal Dec 2014 #113

NOW? For many countries TBF Dec 2014 #26

No kidding, ask any South American country n/t arcane1 Dec 2014 #61

RT? leftynyc Dec 2014 #27

Is reporting the TRUTH from a sourse you hate really worse than polly7 Dec 2014 #29

More hyperbolic nonsense leftynyc Dec 2014 #31

There is no truth from this link because there are no facts. randome Dec 2014 #32

Heaven can kiss my ass . . . another_liberal Dec 2014 #49

No - I'm actually saying that about RT leftynyc Dec 2014 #51

If you must bash Russia Today . . . another_liberal Dec 2014 #54

I believe I'll post wherever leftynyc Dec 2014 #56

Then you are being intentionally "Off Topic." another_liberal Dec 2014 #58

LOL - it's not like leftynyc Dec 2014 #65

Ok then, you'll prefer The Guardian. Here you go. Electric Monk Dec 2014 #59

I've actually already read it from leftynyc Dec 2014 #66

There are a few nations who could talk treestar Dec 2014 #28

The US has always been above international law The2ndWheel Dec 2014 #36

Would this had happened if we had a "free press"? myomy Dec 2014 #39

This point cannot be stressed enough. hifiguy Dec 2014 #48

The Whole World is Watching (NT) The Wizard Dec 2014 #40

My wife pointed out to me yesterday that, should we need to flee this KingCharlemagne Dec 2014 #41

If it comes to what you suggest . . . another_liberal Dec 2014 #50

There is one but it's not really underground Kalidurga Dec 2014 #60

More power to "Occupy!" another_liberal Dec 2014 #108

Also here. Guardian UK for those fond of shooting the messenger. Tierra_y_Libertad Dec 2014 #45

Thank you . . . another_liberal Dec 2014 #53

Here's another. NYT Tierra_y_Libertad Dec 2014 #55

That's been the case since Vietnam. hifiguy Dec 2014 #46

I'm not normally one to grave dance.... Initech Dec 2014 #62

In the eyes of *most americans*, we're an outlaw nation... and proud of it. lumberjack_jeff Dec 2014 #67

Yeah, many still believe anything "Our boys in uniform" do has just got to be justified . . . another_liberal Dec 2014 #107

da arely staircase Dec 2014 #70

Spreek Engrish . . . another_liberal Dec 2014 #76

Yes we are, but guess which country's state media arm has the least credibility to say so. NuclearDem Dec 2014 #72

The article is almost nothing but direct quotes . . . another_liberal Dec 2014 #74

Direct quotes from respected humanitarian organizations... NuclearDem Dec 2014 #77

Please try to stay on the topic of my OP . . . another_liberal Dec 2014 #78

My response was about international reaction to the report NuclearDem Dec 2014 #81

No, Nuclear, you are just bashing my source. another_liberal Dec 2014 #84

Well, your source deserves to be bashed. NuclearDem Dec 2014 #87

Write your own OP . . . another_liberal Dec 2014 #97

And if this were your site, that would mean something. NuclearDem Dec 2014 #98

K&R for exposure. JEB Dec 2014 #73

Thank you, JEB . . . another_liberal Dec 2014 #75

Auto-reset from years of cold war propaganda? JEB Dec 2014 #82

Who could have imagined we'd go through that again . . . another_liberal Dec 2014 #85

We will probably build the wall this time, but JEB Dec 2014 #86

As a matter of fact . . . another_liberal Dec 2014 #99

Latency Turbineguy Dec 2014 #79

Yes . . . another_liberal Dec 2014 #103

We need to submit to an International Criminal Court daredtowork Dec 2014 #89

If we don't agree to punish our guilty . . . another_liberal Dec 2014 #104

K&R woo me with science Dec 2014 #106

kick woo me with science Dec 2014 #114

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