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199. No its not just about "people and party" its about governing or being

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Fri Dec 12, 2014, 09:34 AM

Dec 2014

able to actually accomplish things in government.

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I�m Ready for Hillary.... By HOWARD DEAN... December 10, 2014 [View all] msanthrope Dec 2014 OP

Good for him! I'm ready for Bernie myself! Autumn Dec 2014 #1

Bernie is doing a great job with his non-running. As I noted yesterday, his waiting on an msanthrope Dec 2014 #4

Perhaps it's not *quite* the time to announce? Lugano Dec 2014 #8

Oh dear lord...how is he going to get the Democratic nomination when he's not a Democrat? msanthrope Dec 2014 #10

Really? Bernie has already *INDICATED* that he will switch and run Lugano Dec 2014 #18

Oh lordy...hiring Tad isn't going to make him a Democrat. Tell me...what is Bernie msanthrope Dec 2014 #22

That's for Bernie to do... Lugano Dec 2014 #25

and the REAL question they cannot answer with a straight face....WHY Bernie needs to become VanillaRhapsody Dec 2014 #127

not to win, to be part of the line up and bring up the important issues LawDeeDah Dec 2014 #137

Actually, you are partly right, it is to bring up the issues that most candidates try to evade, but still_one Dec 2014 #202

He needs their money....he cannot raise enough on his own... VanillaRhapsody Dec 2014 #206

NOOOOO....if all that were true...he wouldn't have to....he wouldn't need them....but he does.... VanillaRhapsody Dec 2014 #205

Because for better or worse the country is run by two parties, and at least today, someone running still_one Dec 2014 #201

I'm sure he knows where his country clerk's office is, he can pop in at any point. TheKentuckian Dec 2014 #169

Um, no....you don't slate or debate or get money or infrastructure just because you msanthrope Dec 2014 #172

You spoke to becoming a Democrat so that was addressed the rest? Meh... TheKentuckian Dec 2014 #196

No..anything doesn't go. Bernie isn't going to motivate the Dem structure to work for him without msanthrope Dec 2014 #198

I pretty much stalk Bernie PAProgressive28 Dec 2014 #182

I'm not attacking Bernie! He's doing a great job for Democrats! nt msanthrope Dec 2014 #183

A socialist will NEVER win the nomination, let alone the presidency. Atman Dec 2014 #16

Perhaps it's not scary as it sounds? Lugano Dec 2014 #20

He's got a funny accent and comes from that hippie state with all the cheese and Subarus. Atman Dec 2014 #23

Keep on guessing... Lugano Dec 2014 #42

I live in the Southeast and he's my first choice, too. Fawke Em Dec 2014 #96

Southeast here too. Bernie will stand strong against all the bullshit that the GOP will throw at him Erose999 Dec 2014 #125

How is it that every liberal is deemed "unelectable" on DU? And never our conservatives?: Scootaloo Dec 2014 #179

I'm sure you may be busy so have your law clerk do some research, Hillary is also doing a bang up Autumn Dec 2014 #15

The Democratic election machine is already in place....take a look at Iowa. msanthrope Dec 2014 #19

Hillary announce yet? Or is she still non-running? I gotta say though Autumn Dec 2014 #30

Take a look at her travel. And yes...the Democratic machine will help Bernie..if he wins msanthrope Dec 2014 #31

So will you be fully supporting Senator Sanders Lugano Dec 2014 #47

I will do for him what I have done for every Democratic nominee. nt msanthrope Dec 2014 #50

Name ANY Hillary supporter who has said they won't support Bernie if he wins the nomination... brooklynite Dec 2014 #58

Every active Hillary supporter on this site has said we would support the nominee if Hillary doesn't hrmjustin Dec 2014 #94

Amazing how that works, isn't it? Hekate Dec 2014 #162

it is. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #164

Yes it is amazing Andy823 Dec 2014 #178

That Democratic election machine is us - the 99%'ers.. Lugano Dec 2014 #45

I've said it before and I believe it, if Bernie runs Hillary might as well stay home. Autumn Dec 2014 #63

Hillary layed an egg in Iowa in 2008, and I got to see it up close all the bullwinkle428 Dec 2014 #36

It's astounding how Hillary was such a noob regarding campaigning. LawDeeDah Dec 2014 #145

I support hillary but hope bernie runs gwheezie Dec 2014 #9

I think the more the merrier. Bernie being in the race will force a discussion that Autumn Dec 2014 #17

Senator Sanders in the primary race will make SoS Clinton a better Democratic candidate. BlueCaliDem Dec 2014 #106

Hooboy. AtomicKitten Dec 2014 #121

We'll just have to agree to disagree. I'm approaching this with common sense, not idealistic BlueCaliDem Dec 2014 #140

Okay, then by the same token she is responsible AtomicKitten Dec 2014 #142

Me, too! nt Zorra Dec 2014 #195

Dean's wrong. Lugano Dec 2014 #2

You'd be surprised about how many of the 99% support Hillary. MoonRiver Dec 2014 #6

Well, then, no need to chastise those who don't care for her, right? n/t djean111 Dec 2014 #32

Not chastising. Just bringing to their awareness how vast is Hillary's support. MoonRiver Dec 2014 #41

I'm sure you've heard this famous quote Lugano Dec 2014 #51

That has nothing to do with Hillary Clinton, if that was your implication. MoonRiver Dec 2014 #56

... SidDithers Dec 2014 #59

It has been mentioned. I understand there is a poll, not to mention lists, links, djean111 Dec 2014 #54

And Hillary's support over Obama was "vast" even a year later right before 2008 too... cascadiance Dec 2014 #64

Your problem is that Obama was running then, Elizabeth Warren is not now. MoonRiver Dec 2014 #70

Only hillary can lose a 30 point lead! nt Logical Dec 2014 #119

Vast like 2008?? LOL! nt Logical Dec 2014 #117

You can LOL all you want, but Hillary has the best chance MoonRiver Dec 2014 #171

Only Hillary can lose a 30 point lead in months. Lets hope it happens again to Warren. nt Logical Dec 2014 #181

Dean is blind to what HRC is? You sound concerned. nt msanthrope Dec 2014 #7

Yes. Lugano Dec 2014 #11

You seem to cast Dean as a simple-minded person, unable to think clearly..... msanthrope Dec 2014 #13

I have a lot of respect for Dean, as explained above... Lugano Dec 2014 #37

"But by saying that he's ready for Hillary that he didn't really do his complete vetting." NCTraveler Dec 2014 #14

So explain to me..... Lugano Dec 2014 #33

I am not here to amuse you. Thanks for the try though. NCTraveler Dec 2014 #44

He wasn't ALWAYS a centrist..What happened to his progressivism?..That's what brought whathehell Dec 2014 #43

With all do respect I think Howard Dean knew exactly what he was doing and he did his vetting. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #74

Dean has known and worked with Hillary going back Decades, he isn't some random individual JI7 Dec 2014 #143

DU rec... SidDithers Dec 2014 #3

Between this and Warren's repeated "not running" statements, quite a lot of msanthrope Dec 2014 #5

No doubt he is a smart man. nt. NCTraveler Dec 2014 #12

That's a shame but not surprising.... /nt think Dec 2014 #21

I will not vote for Hillary ...period! L0oniX Dec 2014 #24

Okay!!! I LOVE it when people put me on ignore and announce it. I make a point of msanthrope Dec 2014 #34

I was happy about that once.. turns out he lied. :) Cha Dec 2014 #184

Just an observation but, you only want to talk to people who agree with you? brooklynite Dec 2014 #60

Woopse ...took you off of ignore by mistake. L0oniX Dec 2014 #73

oh, you mean like the HRC forum? LOL!!! nt antigop Dec 2014 #101

The sop of the room states it is for her supporters only. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #103

lol...yep. only for those who want to talk with people who agree with them. You proved the point! antigop Dec 2014 #105

Well the person you addressed doesn't post in the room often. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #107

the mere existence of the HRC forum proves brooklynite's point. I don't see brooklynite antigop Dec 2014 #108

Ok. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #109

Maybe because I don't hang out there (didn't even know it existed) brooklynite Dec 2014 #113

you didn't know it existed... right... well now you do...do they have "boring" conversations there? antigop Dec 2014 #114

From a quick scan? looks about on par with the Elizabeth Warren group... brooklynite Dec 2014 #118

so do they having "boring" conversations in the HRC group? Must be, antigop Dec 2014 #126

Is there a point to this question... brooklynite Dec 2014 #128

just answer the question....read what you posted in Post #60 and answer my question.... antigop Dec 2014 #131

Wut? Bobbie Jo Dec 2014 #129

Have you ever seen people gunning so hard for a fight over absolutely NOTHING? Number23 Dec 2014 #176

I like to think we have interesting conversations in the room. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #132

that's not an answer to brooklynite's post #60 where he says it must be "boring" only talking with antigop Dec 2014 #134

Wouldn't know; I've never been there... brooklynite Dec 2014 #110

lol. You haven't mentioned the "boring" conversations that take place there, have you? antigop Dec 2014 #111

Can't mention what I've never seen... brooklynite Dec 2014 #115

doesn't matter whether you've "seen" it or not...you know it exists and is FOR SUPPORTERS ONLY. antigop Dec 2014 #135

Okay - if anyone there publicly states they don't want to talk to someone who disagrees with them... brooklynite Dec 2014 #138

the forum specifically states FOR SUPPORTERS ONLY. So the conversations in HRC forum are boring. antigop Dec 2014 #150

Don't stress, if she wins the nomination you and your "stay at home" crowd.... moriah Dec 2014 #72

Enjoy voting for torture. L0oniX Dec 2014 #75

Ahh, yes, because Hillary's name is all over the CIA report. moriah Dec 2014 #76

Keep ignoring her being SOS too while your at it. L0oniX Dec 2014 #80

Yes, such a disqualification for higher office. moriah Dec 2014 #81

If you want to vote for people who approve of torture that's on you. L0oniX Dec 2014 #82

What, you're getting onto Obama now? moriah Dec 2014 #83

Did you consult Miss Cleo to find out that I was talking about Obama? L0oniX Dec 2014 #85

As I said, you did a massive edit. moriah Dec 2014 #86

Oh yea you caught me being sneaky ...jeeze L0oniX Dec 2014 #87

So will Dr. Dean now be regarded as merely persona non grata at DU, or ... 11 Bravo Dec 2014 #26

According to this thread, he's incapable of rational thought and "vetting." nt msanthrope Dec 2014 #27

One man's opinion doesn't make it a thread. Lugano Dec 2014 #39

Takaway from this Robbins Dec 2014 #28

Well, Howard-I'm not. My Friends/Family are not fredamae Dec 2014 #29

What has happened to Howard Dean? whathehell Dec 2014 #35

...shudder... RiverLover Dec 2014 #38

This should be lst strew for liberals Robbins Dec 2014 #49

Hillary isn't my first choice, but she would be an effective president FLPanhandle Dec 2014 #40

Amen. nuff said MoonRiver Dec 2014 #46

Dean is a Pragmatist Derek V Dec 2014 #48

Maybe Howard's looking for a place on Hillary's cabinet. VP? n/t benz380 Dec 2014 #52

Good for Howard Dean! hrmjustin Dec 2014 #53

Frankly I don't give a damn who Dean endorses. wilsonbooks Dec 2014 #55

There will be many who will endorse her. Union Scribe Dec 2014 #57

K&R, I'm Ready for Hillary too! nt stevenleser Dec 2014 #61

I feel heads exploding over this. lol. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #62

Wait 'til Warren endorses her. You'll need raingear. nt msanthrope Dec 2014 #66

Lol there will be gnashing of teeth. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #67

The wailing is my favorite part. nt msanthrope Dec 2014 #68

The moon will turn blood red and the stars will fall. n/t. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #69

It'll be cats and dogs..living together! nt msanthrope Dec 2014 #91

Wait till she loses! This place will explode. Wait....what? nt Logical Dec 2014 #122

What a shock! Nt Logical Dec 2014 #120

Good for him. Guess I'm just a dumbass mmonk Dec 2014 #65

To be honest, Dean's endorsement does carry some weight with me. morningfog Dec 2014 #71

I'm Ready for Hiillary! Algernon Moncrieff Dec 2014 #77

https://scontent-a-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfa1/v/t1.0-9/1623210_10152422307390493_7477573291476879 wilsonbooks Dec 2014 #78

You might want to try that again. MineralMan Dec 2014 #147

The Wall Street Beatings Will Continue! adirondacker Dec 2014 #79

This is one of the biggest K&R" I have done on DU! William769 Dec 2014 #84

Has "Third-way Manny" weighed in on this yet? scheming daemons Dec 2014 #88

Uggh! JDPriestly Dec 2014 #89

No thanks. We need a non corporate president. Fearless Dec 2014 #90

I don't trust Hillary on Foreign Policy Martin Eden Dec 2014 #92

Did Uncle Howie just jump the shark? EEEeeeeeeeOOOOOOooooooohhhhh ! Hoppy Dec 2014 #93

You went there. RiverLover Dec 2014 #98

If Hillary throws her hat into the ring, BlueMTexpat Dec 2014 #95

Ready for Hillary is code for going along to get along Android3.14 Dec 2014 #97

Two words: zentrum Dec 2014 #99

Unfortunately Senator warren will not run and will back Hillary William769 Dec 2014 #102

Interesting how Howard Dean was all the rage after this last election and now he is not. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #100

... William769 Dec 2014 #104

Dean's 50 State Strategy is backing a Dem who can contend and win in the most states. wyldwolf Dec 2014 #153

Yo, Howard....about those million miles as SOS..... antigop Dec 2014 #112

People fail to realize that US jobs depend on whether US businesses succeed. lumpy Dec 2014 #148

people fail to acknowledge how disastrous the TPP is. She played a leading part . nt antigop Dec 2014 #149

LOL. I love The Onion! They have the best parody! nt Logical Dec 2014 #116

Great last paragraph. But article is Right leaning Politico riversedge Dec 2014 #123

So your contention is Dean's words were misquoted by the "Right leaning Politico?" wyldwolf Dec 2014 #152

You do realize that Dean actually wrote this OpEd? He isn't being quoted. nt msanthrope Dec 2014 #159

You'd think that the line "By Howard Dean" towards the top would clue them in. greatauntoftriplets Dec 2014 #166

No shit...I DELIBERATELY included that to head off the posters who msanthrope Dec 2014 #167

It never fails! greatauntoftriplets Dec 2014 #168

Thanks. riversedge Dec 2014 #194

Don't give a damn who Dean or amy other... 99Forever Dec 2014 #124

It often happens when you get older ... earthside Dec 2014 #130

Really Howard? No thanks. polichick Dec 2014 #133

I'll vote for her, and if I stay on DU long enough, I'll never vote for Warren joeybee12 Dec 2014 #136

Clearly Hillary is smart and has offered Dean a position in a future Clinton administration. n/t Tatiana Dec 2014 #139

The We Heart Howard Dean purity group throws Dr. Dean under bus in 3...2...1... LadyHawkAZ Dec 2014 #141

Under the Bus! MineralMan Dec 2014 #144

Am I ok with you if I pray that hillary is not the candidate and will do my best to pick someone.... Logical Dec 2014 #154

Does it matter if it's OK with me? MineralMan Dec 2014 #157

You were whining.... "I find that odd and marginally disturbing" so I thought I would..... Logical Dec 2014 #180

MORE.OF.THE.SAME. GeorgeGist Dec 2014 #146

Keep digging wyldwolf Dec 2014 #151

And the phony liberals toss Dr Dean under the bus.... baldguy Dec 2014 #155

Hillary is a different kind of Dem than Obama but still a Dem so K' n' R. ucrdem Dec 2014 #156

It's going to be freaking glorious. joshcryer Dec 2014 #158

Are DU heads exploding in a fine red mist yet? Hekate Dec 2014 #160

I'm ready for the Third Way Manny thread on this. nt msanthrope Dec 2014 #161

Yeah, he'll want an "adult conversation" on the topic Hekate Dec 2014 #163

I'm always fuckin' adult in my conversations. nt msanthrope Dec 2014 #165

I know. I guess you missed.... Hekate Dec 2014 #170

Oh no...I was all over that! All over. nt msanthrope Dec 2014 #173

Nice gossipy callout subthread. Union Scribe Dec 2014 #190

Ya had to be there. Has your head exploded yet? I'm concerned... Hekate Dec 2014 #191

Just cracks me up. WilliamPitt Dec 2014 #174

Given the length and bitterness of your reply, I did score a mark. nt msanthrope Dec 2014 #175

Oh wow.. the fucking hypocrisy! Howard Dean writes an OP and in some people's minds.. it's Cha Dec 2014 #185

Exactly..I post an OpEd written by Dean...with two words of commentary.... msanthrope Dec 2014 #188

that's the way they roll.. "THIRD WAY"! "AUTHORITARIAN"! How dare you use Dean to get RECS.. much Cha Dec 2014 #189

At least this was written with substance. William769 Dec 2014 #187

I wish ya could too, William~ Cha Dec 2014 #192

No its not just about "people and party" its about governing or being BootinUp Dec 2014 #199

Wow, Howard Dean! I'm a little surprised.. but, it's Dean so Rec. :) He's coming out early! Cha Dec 2014 #177

yippee Doctor_J Dec 2014 #186

I'm ready Aerows Dec 2014 #193

I'm not ready for anything more of the same... MrMickeysMom Dec 2014 #197

kick BootinUp Dec 2014 #200

I guess we can put to rest any sort of "is she actually running" nonsense, then. Warren DeMontague Dec 2014 #203

Kicking this again. Hurray for Hillary! hrmjustin Dec 2014 #204

'Bout time you woke up Howard fadedrose Dec 2014 #207

Congratulation Howard Dean Mushtaq Dean Dec 2014 #208