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4. depends on what the meaning of "is" is.

Fri Dec 12, 2014, 01:09 PM

Dec 2014

i think he might, years from now, in his memoirs, say that he was always a liberal at heart and tried to be as liberal as he thought he could get away with.

however, in practice, he's a pragmatist who stays within the range of what he thinks the prevailing political climate is; as such, he has presided as a center-right president. due to the state of the media and of campaign finance, it's understandable that he might have concluded that he couldn't win or effectively preside as an outright liberal.

of course, one could certainly argue that what's in his heart hardly matters if he tells no one until well after he retires. so, i voted for "center-right".

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Is Obama A Liberal? [View all] Prophet 451 Dec 2014 OP

Nope Brigid Dec 2014 #1

He said he considers himself a moderate republican. Check the tape: NOVA_Dem Dec 2014 #2

He's to the right of Nixon. hifiguy Dec 2014 #5

Yes, to both of these self-declared descriptions LondonReign2 Dec 2014 #7

The truth is what it is. hifiguy Dec 2014 #12

You're about as good at misqouting as Fox News, here... n/t moriah Dec 2014 #23

Not at all. nt cyberswede Dec 2014 #3

depends on what the meaning of "is" is. unblock Dec 2014 #4

He's Center-Right, just not as hawkish as Hillary. nt TheBlackAdder Dec 2014 #6

Exactly, which is why I don't support her either. n/t CaliforniaPeggy Dec 2014 #10

honestly, that is a fucking insult Skittles Dec 2014 #8

He's not. He's much further to the Right than I am. Xyzse Dec 2014 #9

He liberally supports the status quo n/t whatchamacallit Dec 2014 #11

No doubt right of center. BillZBubb Dec 2014 #13

Where's "Wall Street tool?" polichick Dec 2014 #14

Corporatist? benz380 Dec 2014 #17

Yes, that would be the polite version. polichick Dec 2014 #19

I consider him to be a moderate (nt) bigwillq Dec 2014 #15

No... sendero Dec 2014 #16

You misspelled "center"... Wounded Bear Dec 2014 #18

Isn't "centre" also correct? benz380 Dec 2014 #21

If you live in England... Wounded Bear Dec 2014 #22

In my defence, I'm British Prophet 451 Dec 2014 #33

Are YOU a liberal? True Blue Door Dec 2014 #20

why is the rum "always" gone ..... NM_Birder Dec 2014 #24

Skittles drank it all. bigwillq Dec 2014 #25

I see an ass kicking in your future.... nt grasswire Dec 2014 #26

Skittles is all talk. bigwillq Dec 2014 #27

ok grasswire Dec 2014 #28

I can't believe Dyedinthewoolliberal Dec 2014 #29

Ugh! Derek V Dec 2014 #30

It's unclear what the word "Liberal" means these days. Lionel Mandrake Dec 2014 #31

There are still people who think he's a liberal? LittleBlue Dec 2014 #32

He's a competent centrist. hunter Dec 2014 #34