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NanceGreggs

(27,813 posts)
109. Really?
Fri Dec 12, 2014, 07:13 PM
Dec 2014

Can you provide the full quote where Obama said "torturers are patriots"?

Oh, and I mean an actual quote - not the BS about, well, he said this, but what he really meant was something else.

Please read this and re-consider the misinformation brush Dec 2014 #1
Thanks for proving my point about rationalizing. Odin2005 Dec 2014 #2
Patriot-one who loves his or her country and supports its authority and interests Johonny Dec 2014 #11
Nobody was taking issue with those who didn't participate in torture . . . markpkessinger Dec 2014 #34
NAIL MEET HAMMER helpmetohelpyou Dec 2014 #40
Amen to that! n/t Aerows Dec 2014 #44
That's it right there... SomethingFishy Dec 2014 #85
Exactly. ronnie624 Dec 2014 #277
That stood out for me also. malokvale77 Dec 2014 #88
+1. nt SammyWinstonJack Dec 2014 #93
Exactly! Funny how the apologists always forget the "sanctimonious" line. Odin2005 Dec 2014 #159
"A lot" were Obama's exact words. merrily Dec 2014 #84
no. it does NOT say that at all. robinlynne Dec 2014 #153
thanks brush.. they're the ones who are in Denial.. they seem to have a lot invested in believing Cha Dec 2014 #215
I found it profoundly disrespectful to say a bunch of 'folks' roguevalley Dec 2014 #281
yup...there is arsing don alright Sheepshank Dec 2014 #3
You want Obama to prosecute those resposible for torture, right? LondonReign2 Dec 2014 #24
Now now...we can't do that! It might hurt somebodies feelings. Rex Dec 2014 #28
It's all about trying to distract by arguing about what Obama *really* said LondonReign2 Dec 2014 #31
Yeah these last 6 years are a real eye opener. I thought only the GOP did blind loyalty. Rex Dec 2014 #33
+1 merrily Dec 2014 #86
People don't want to give up the idea that Obama is the 2nd Coming of FDR. Odin2005 Dec 2014 #162
I gve up on that idea Art_from_Ark Dec 2014 #256
I think some cannot stand FDR and his succesful social policies. The want free trade. No limits. Rex Dec 2014 #257
exactly grasswire Dec 2014 #55
It is always the same people. Rex Dec 2014 #58
You need to be less... SomethingFishy Dec 2014 #87
True, I wouldn't want to make anyone mad. Rex Dec 2014 #97
... SammyWinstonJack Dec 2014 #102
Hah malokvale77 Dec 2014 #106
They are under a lot of pressure, those folks ... n/t reorg Dec 2014 #158
And we all know what they are going to say before we even read the posts. Odin2005 Dec 2014 #167
It's almost like they are professional Bullshitters paid to spew bullshit. Odin2005 Dec 2014 #166
heheh. grasswire Dec 2014 #169
Posters like him are proving my point about denial. Odin2005 Dec 2014 #161
Ah, I get it. It's like criticizing the lives and politics of Greenwald and Snowden to distract merrily Dec 2014 #230
The full statement changes nothing... joeybee12 Dec 2014 #101
Obama was asking people not to get "sanctimonious" over torture. Odin2005 Dec 2014 #160
It's worse than that Oilwellian Dec 2014 #181
There in lies the dilemma malokvale77 Dec 2014 #212
And have a direct, verbatim quote. Even saw him saying it. Still can. Video at the link I gave merrily Dec 2014 #232
Who you gonna believe... malokvale77 Dec 2014 #244
Perfect! Night. Rest well and be productive (hopefully enjoyably) tomorrow. merrily Dec 2014 #247
B plus S plus lol LawDeeDah Dec 2014 #4
Why not provide the complete statement, it appears you are in fact taking this out of context. Thinkingabout Dec 2014 #5
Of course they are, the right wing con job of exactly doing that has been copied.....by "liberals", Fred Sanders Dec 2014 #7
Oh look, somobdy proves my point again. Odin2005 Dec 2014 #13
Your "proving my point" meme isn't working. JaneyVee Dec 2014 #18
Actually... SomethingFishy Dec 2014 #89
Yeah, "proves my point" was disingenuous the first time ..now it's just looking stupid. Cha Dec 2014 #216
And you are in favor of Obama holding responsible those responsible for torture, and I right? LondonReign2 Dec 2014 #32
"Fearbola!" LordGlenconner Dec 2014 #36
DU loves the right-wing "Democrats are weak" meme. NYC Liberal Dec 2014 #39
I know. It's amazing so many on DU fall for it. nt okaawhatever Dec 2014 #10
It's the same old crowd Andy823 Dec 2014 #20
While you debate whether he did or didn't, LondonReign2 Dec 2014 #25
Here again is the complete statement, some in class are not paying attention so here goes: LawDeeDah Dec 2014 #49
I have seen this same bullshit over and over the last few days. TM99 Dec 2014 #72
No. Just No. Go back to class you get an F LawDeeDah Dec 2014 #96
Shall we discuss background and credentials then? TM99 Dec 2014 #98
What is sadder is making shit up to make the President sound like a Cheney or a Rumsfeld. LawDeeDah Dec 2014 #105
Only apologists like yourself are saying that Obama is like Cheney or Rumsfeld. TM99 Dec 2014 #110
Post removed Post removed Dec 2014 #113
"Obama is actually the worst kind of evil as portrayed in his words" zappaman Dec 2014 #118
I am certain I am. TM99 Dec 2014 #119
Enjoy your stay! zappaman Dec 2014 #123
That one really sticks out doesnt it...wow, the hate for that man is amazing NoJusticeNoPeace Dec 2014 #131
"Fuck him" LOL Cha Dec 2014 #221
Not gonna happen!! bravenak Dec 2014 #225
... Cha Dec 2014 #226
GD is like a wrestling pit. bravenak Dec 2014 #228
I've been on a lot of juries lately too.. there was one good HIDE.. Cha Dec 2014 #237
Snake pit too. bravenak Dec 2014 #241
Guess who got alerted on for "Fuck him", LOL'? This was sent to me by a juror.. Cha Dec 2014 #270
Gawd!! bravenak Dec 2014 #271
REally! the thin skinned alerters have gone batshite..(watch that get alerted on).. I sent in my Cha Dec 2014 #273
Yep. Me too. bravenak Dec 2014 #274
Yeah, supertrolls don't get a pass from me. but, apparently me quoting another poster is just too Cha Dec 2014 #275
Do you support President Obama not pushing for prosecution of the torturers, yes or no? truebluegreen Dec 2014 #120
Time is not up. Ask again in a while. LawDeeDah Dec 2014 #122
When? Jan 20, 2017? truebluegreen Dec 2014 #125
When? Let me check my balls. LawDeeDah Dec 2014 #128
Yep. And he's said from the beginning that he's looking forward, not back. truebluegreen Dec 2014 #130
The thread is not about the program, but about Pres. Obama's recent comment. merrily Dec 2014 #249
Theres a statute for that treestar Dec 2014 #262
I think we SHOULD feel sanctimonious. SANCTIMONIOUS? We're talking about war crimes. He says not robinlynne Dec 2014 #156
You are just reading into it what you WANT to read into it. Odin2005 Dec 2014 #168
Fine comment, if you want to give me an alternative interpretation of his comments merrily Dec 2014 #250
Why you would think the full statement is helpful to this absurd spin is beyond me TheKentuckian Dec 2014 #234
No matter what, the context is here. A link to an article with a video is on the thread. merrily Dec 2014 #251
The full statement... malokvale77 Dec 2014 #108
People say 'American's don't torture!!" bravenak Dec 2014 #6
You have both feet on the ground. Puglover Dec 2014 #35
I get so sick of the word 'Patriot'. bravenak Dec 2014 #150
It's used Puglover Dec 2014 #187
Thank you!! bravenak Dec 2014 #188
Gray GRAY Puglover Dec 2014 #189
The Andes? bravenak Dec 2014 #191
Well there is a lovely room with separate bath in my home that has your Puglover Dec 2014 #194
You are too nice. I hope I make it there someday to take you up on that. bravenak Dec 2014 #196
And, apparently, this is the best time chervilant Dec 2014 #236
Thank you. bravenak Dec 2014 #240
I love the Milky Way chervilant Dec 2014 #245
Might take a trip to Girdwood. bravenak Dec 2014 #248
bravenak, you always speak thoughtfully. malokvale77 Dec 2014 #63
I agree. bravenak Dec 2014 #91
It concerns me... malokvale77 Dec 2014 #111
I don't think we ever will get justice. bravenak Dec 2014 #112
I do not see real justice in my lifetime. malokvale77 Dec 2014 #127
People will say anything nasty online. bravenak Dec 2014 #133
Yes... malokvale77 Dec 2014 #142
The president should have them prosecuted, he would then also be for the drones or something NoJusticeNoPeace Dec 2014 #136
We have been doing horrible things to people since the beginning. bravenak Dec 2014 #141
If we went by Nuremburg, every Post-WW2 president should have been/should be hanged. Odin2005 Dec 2014 #171
America was built on genocide, slavery, wage slavery, and imperialism. Odin2005 Dec 2014 #170
I learned on my own. bravenak Dec 2014 #172
Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel. Odin2005 Dec 2014 #174
That's pretty much it. When people say that they're a patriot, I wonder who they killed. bravenak Dec 2014 #177
I've never called Jefferson a patriot and never been privy to unqualified praise of him that I have merrily Dec 2014 #252
Nothing is wrong with telling the truth, ever. bravenak Dec 2014 #255
I don't know much about what life was like in the 1500s (or earlier) in what we now merrily Dec 2014 #258
Exactly. I see us as brainwashed. bravenak Dec 2014 #260
and yet, as cynical as I think I am, I find I am still naive enough to be merrily Dec 2014 #261
It rarely happens to me. bravenak Dec 2014 #265
I'll have to try to read even more of your posts to see if I can learn that. merrily Dec 2014 #266
I feel bad for being so negative. bravenak Dec 2014 #267
Except in unusual circumstances, I find being in reality trumps being in unreality. merrily Dec 2014 #268
Go ahead and produce the exact quote if you are so certain. geek tragedy Dec 2014 #8
His fingers were crossed when he said it Capt. Obvious Dec 2014 #15
They can't Andy823 Dec 2014 #21
But you think Obama should prosecute those responsible for torture, right? LondonReign2 Dec 2014 #26
LOL! Rex Dec 2014 #29
They never will. malokvale77 Dec 2014 #74
I don't get it either. Rex Dec 2014 #81
"Yet they act like it is world war III and the enemy is the truth and facts." malokvale77 Dec 2014 #116
From a psychological POV what is going on with them is quite obvious to me... Odin2005 Dec 2014 #176
You may be right. malokvale77 Dec 2014 #185
Bingo. laundry_queen Dec 2014 #201
Still can't answer? LondonReign2 Dec 2014 #300
I put the exact quote and a link to an article with a video near the beginning of the thread, in my merrily Dec 2014 #259
It's sad marym625 Dec 2014 #9
It's deliberate propaganda. Our equivalent of Orwell's "2+2=5," woo me with science Dec 2014 #12
Excellent Post woo.. 2banon Dec 2014 #22
Thank-you! polichick Dec 2014 #27
Amen and well said! markpkessinger Dec 2014 #37
Bummer, man, why all the negative vibes? Fred Sanders Dec 2014 #41
Funny. GeorgeGist Dec 2014 #293
yep. n/t Horse with no Name Dec 2014 #54
just because you can't understand somethin doesn't mean it makes no sense. nt arely staircase Dec 2014 #59
By all means, expand on this. ronnie624 Dec 2014 #298
I never said progressives couldn't understand anything arely staircase Dec 2014 #305
Then your post is gibberish. ronnie624 Dec 2014 #310
Or TPP, or school corporatization, or mandatory for-profit health insurance Doctor_J Dec 2014 #68
+1 leftstreet Dec 2014 #90
You got that right.. SomethingFishy Dec 2014 #94
+1 liberal_at_heart Dec 2014 #95
... SammyWinstonJack Dec 2014 #107
+1 eom Odin2005 Dec 2014 #179
^^^this. nt laundry_queen Dec 2014 #202
+1-- NewDeal_Dem Dec 2014 #214
Too true, woo whatchamacallit Dec 2014 #218
Excellent post. n/t ronnie624 Dec 2014 #299
NOT ALL TORTURERS Capt. Obvious Dec 2014 #14
#notalltorturers Dr. Strange Dec 2014 #309
And Wall St Criminals were not committing crimes, they were immoral but sabrina 1 Dec 2014 #16
I am noticing a coordinated campaign to distract attention from the torture issue True Blue Door Dec 2014 #17
Because the only reason why Aerows Dec 2014 #47
People who are against torture talk about torture. True Blue Door Dec 2014 #48
This exactly. nt Bobbie Jo Dec 2014 #56
Are you kidding? malokvale77 Dec 2014 #145
Read the post again Bobbie Jo Dec 2014 #175
It was clear the first time. malokvale77 Dec 2014 #183
No Bobbie Jo Dec 2014 #190
You became my boss when? malokvale77 Dec 2014 #195
I get bossed by Vanilla. bravenak Dec 2014 #197
*snort* Bobbie Jo Dec 2014 #211
Did I miss something, bravenak? malokvale77 Dec 2014 #220
No. bravenak Dec 2014 #223
Gotcha. malokvale77 Dec 2014 #227
She beat on me until I had to leave the house! bravenak Dec 2014 #229
I quit being beat on decades ago. malokvale77 Dec 2014 #243
Goodnight!! bravenak Dec 2014 #246
What does that even mean?? Bobbie Jo Dec 2014 #209
I Have Read This Entire Thread Long Drive Dec 2014 #278
Outstanding! Bobbie Jo Dec 2014 #279
Thanks I Am Sure We Will Be BFFs Long Drive Dec 2014 #280
No doubt. Bobbie Jo Dec 2014 #295
My Stay? Long Drive Dec 2014 #311
Who is doing that? n/t Aerows Dec 2014 #60
How about the guy who posted the thread asking the "Fair and Balanced" poll question True Blue Door Dec 2014 #62
It isn't exactly outrageous Aerows Dec 2014 #66
You haven't prosecuted war crimes either. True Blue Door Dec 2014 #69
Did Eric Holder Aerows Dec 2014 #78
Yah, because Aerows has that power. malokvale77 Dec 2014 #138
It's unreal, isn't it? laundry_queen Dec 2014 #204
Unreal is right. malokvale77 Dec 2014 #224
You are becoming a joke... malokvale77 Dec 2014 #147
Yeah, no kidding. zappaman Dec 2014 #64
Precisely unfuckingreal. True Blue Door Dec 2014 #67
It's the same old crowd zappaman Dec 2014 #70
Exactly, TBD.. not wallow in their self made quagmires of twisting the President's words to make Cha Dec 2014 #219
And when exactly do you suppose Obama will get around to starting to LondonReign2 Dec 2014 #301
This isn't about Obama! When are you going to get that?! True Blue Door Dec 2014 #307
Another one who can't answer LondonReign2 Dec 2014 #312
So your take from this thread is "you are trying to distract from the torture issue" SomethingFishy Dec 2014 #104
This malokvale77 Dec 2014 #149
I'm noticing Bobbie Jo Dec 2014 #19
+1 LordGlenconner Dec 2014 #79
Cognitive Dissonance is alive and well here.. 2banon Dec 2014 #23
No matter how many threads like this get launched BeyondGeography Dec 2014 #30
They don't want to believe it , it's all they have left with this President helpmetohelpyou Dec 2014 #45
Quote? CakeGrrl Dec 2014 #38
Wish they'd make up their minds regarding the importance of what he says. great white snark Dec 2014 #42
Does Obama think of himself as a patriot? I would say yes helpmetohelpyou Dec 2014 #43
The circling of the wagons Aerows Dec 2014 #46
I think it pretty clearly can be read either way fishwax Dec 2014 #50
Yes ... Obama loves torture. JoePhilly Dec 2014 #51
False framing whatchamacallit Dec 2014 #53
Wait, so you are saying that ... JoePhilly Dec 2014 #61
Some are projecting the "Obama is a torture fan/Obama loves torture" slant whatchamacallit Dec 2014 #71
So he's against it, but covering for it ... why? JoePhilly Dec 2014 #73
You tell me whatchamacallit Dec 2014 #76
I've seen a lot of that on this thread... malokvale77 Dec 2014 #157
Yeah, mis-frame, discredit... whatchamacallit Dec 2014 #164
"Patriotism is the last refuge of scoundrels" The Blue Flower Dec 2014 #52
why are you so worried about people who don't hate Obama? arely staircase Dec 2014 #57
Yep. I also think there's a big dose of plain old, 'can't admit I was wrong'. Marr Dec 2014 #65
You could be right. malokvale77 Dec 2014 #99
It's double thinking and cognitive dissonance. morningfog Dec 2014 #75
+1000 darkangel218 Dec 2014 #82
And the sad truth is... Oilwellian Dec 2014 #200
And the full blown attempt to extract a few words from Obama's statement Thinkingabout Dec 2014 #77
As opposed to malokvale77 Dec 2014 #198
What else did you hear him say at the same time? Thinkingabout Dec 2014 #205
DU Rec Jesus Malverde Dec 2014 #80
Yeah, there's a lot of people ... NanceGreggs Dec 2014 #83
He did say it... joeybee12 Dec 2014 #100
Really? NanceGreggs Dec 2014 #109
In so many words whatchamacallit Dec 2014 #114
I asked for a direct quote. NanceGreggs Dec 2014 #117
So who are the patriots he's referring to in his comments? whatchamacallit Dec 2014 #121
<crickets> truebluegreen Dec 2014 #124
The very people ... NanceGreggs Dec 2014 #134
Lol... Who is the "we" in "We tortured some folks"? whatchamacallit Dec 2014 #140
Oh, I see you're going with the Will Pitt version of events .. NanceGreggs Dec 2014 #144
I have, repeatedly whatchamacallit Dec 2014 #146
The statement is VERY clear ... NanceGreggs Dec 2014 #148
Again whatchamacallit Dec 2014 #154
Hey, just stick with the Will Pitt version ... NanceGreggs Dec 2014 #163
I'm not borrowing from Will Pitt whatchamacallit Dec 2014 #165
No, you're right. NanceGreggs Dec 2014 #178
I don't accuse Obama of being "a torture lover" whatchamacallit Dec 2014 #186
+1 laundry_queen Dec 2014 #207
:) whatchamacallit Dec 2014 #213
Prosecution is a different topic. NanceGreggs Dec 2014 #282
Your argument is ridiculous whatchamacallit Dec 2014 #286
You're right. NanceGreggs Dec 2014 #288
Yeah well whatchamacallit Dec 2014 #289
Again you need to ... NanceGreggs Dec 2014 #290
Astounding opacity whatchamacallit Dec 2014 #291
"Prosecution is a different topic. Why don't you try sticking to the topic at hand?" LondonReign2 Dec 2014 #302
I'm not the one who changed the topic. NanceGreggs Dec 2014 #306
About "folks," OnyxCollie Dec 2014 #272
... NanceGreggs Dec 2014 #284
I've always been good at entertaining children, OnyxCollie Dec 2014 #292
Even if your interpretation of the President's words is correct it is still damning. Odin2005 Dec 2014 #184
"law enforcement and our national security teams" malokvale77 Dec 2014 #203
Bingo! truebrit71 Dec 2014 #263
Yes, those were the people he was referring to. NanceGreggs Dec 2014 #285
The actual quote, two paragaraphs full confirms it... joeybee12 Dec 2014 #115
No, he didn't. NanceGreggs Dec 2014 #126
Who do you think was doing the torture? Nevernose Dec 2014 #139
Dunno. NanceGreggs Dec 2014 #173
That's actually the clearest take on that position I've seen yet. Nevernose Dec 2014 #192
It's quite simple. NanceGreggs Dec 2014 #283
"the man who ended the use of torture once he was POTUS, and has now released the report on torture Cha Dec 2014 #233
It's a false concern though, right? No one's criticizing DirkGently Dec 2014 #297
Yes, it's a false concern. NanceGreggs Dec 2014 #308
I was an English major. You weren't. They would have asked you to switch majors. DisgustipatedinCA Dec 2014 #296
The most torture of all is inflicted MannyGoldstein Dec 2014 #129
Yeah. NanceGreggs Dec 2014 #137
This Manny... malokvale77 Dec 2014 #180
Denial ain't just a river in Egypt, Nance. Odin2005 Dec 2014 #182
You're the one who's dancing on the river Nile..with your "proved my point" crap digging yourself Cha Dec 2014 #235
No offence, but ... NanceGreggs Dec 2014 #287
Imagine for one minute if... Marrah_G Dec 2014 #92
Torture should never be accepted darkangel218 Dec 2014 #103
It seemed clear to me that he was excusing the torturers. SolutionisSolidarity Dec 2014 #132
One point: the paragraph break the White House put in is a bit misleading muriel_volestrangler Dec 2014 #135
Whoa! I didn't catch this before... Oilwellian Dec 2014 #217
Yeah , I started a thread about it , Obama is involved in this also helpmetohelpyou Dec 2014 #242
Whether or not he specifically called torturers "patriots" . . . markpkessinger Dec 2014 #143
Look at what he's done and don't get hung up on a soundbyte. nt ucrdem Dec 2014 #151
kick. robinlynne Dec 2014 #152
and a lot of folks on DU are maintaining that Elizabeth Warren is running for President in 2016 still_one Dec 2014 #155
Show me one. malokvale77 Dec 2014 #193
She is doing a magnificent job as a Senator exposing those democrats not working for the still_one Dec 2014 #199
Wonderful malokvale77 Dec 2014 #206
Every interview I have seen her she has said she is not running for president in 2016, which how the still_one Dec 2014 #210
I know that. malokvale77 Dec 2014 #222
misunderstood your point. Thanks for clarifying it still_one Dec 2014 #231
No harm, no foul. (nt) malokvale77 Dec 2014 #239
Torture is not understandable nor forgivable. JEB Dec 2014 #208
"It is a war crime that can be punishable by death." malokvale77 Dec 2014 #238
You are correct. Vattel Dec 2014 #253
^^^This^^^ truebrit71 Dec 2014 #294
This should be an OP. Jamastiene Dec 2014 #304
Yep. cwydro Dec 2014 #254
kicking cwydro Dec 2014 #264
. MohRokTah Dec 2014 #269
He doesn't. elleng Dec 2014 #276
Okay, we got it, we got it. brush Dec 2014 #303
... SidDithers Dec 2014 #313
heh Bobbie Jo Dec 2014 #314
You're late. Odin2005 Dec 2014 #316
Considering oneself a patriot has covered a multitude of sins... Orsino Dec 2014 #315
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