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In reply to the discussion: I am noticing a lot of full-blown denial over Obama calling torturers "patriots" on DU. [View all]Nevernose
(13,081 posts)And while there's a little snark at the end (but I loves me some snark!), the rest of that post could be an OP in its own right. Most of the people on "your side" make it seem like a grammar battle, and therefore y'all are on the losing side of that. Grammar don't lie. The comments were clear. The problem is, they were clear to people in entirely different ways .
Personally, I think he DID say some of the torturers were patriots. Not only was he trying to be magnanimous, but it's probably an accurate statement: a bunch of guys in the CIA didn't wake up one day wanting to torture Arabs, they legitimately (and totally wrongly) thought they were protecting America. He also said it a few years ago, while he was still trying to get along with Republicans.
I think the difference in opinion here is that may of us feel that the torturers should be brought to justice, regardless of their motives.