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83. By contrast, keeping it on the down low has made these Democrats extremely effective.

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Sun Dec 14, 2014, 07:40 PM

Dec 2014

And these Democrats are who exactly?

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Remember Alan Grayson's first term, when he spent every day being a liberal firebrand? [View all] True Blue Door Dec 2014 OP

Or, maybe he realized that making fiery speeches doesn't accomplish much... brooklynite Dec 2014 #1

Exactly. And that shouldn't be the case. True Blue Door Dec 2014 #2

Question...why do you WANT fiery speeches that accomplish nothing? brooklynite Dec 2014 #3

It doesn't accomplish nothing if it's rewarded. True Blue Door Dec 2014 #4

Being quiet and obeying the party leadership doesn't change anything. Ken Burch Dec 2014 #35

The alternative is to give up. Ken Burch Dec 2014 #36

Eight years - not six, and she left to be SECSTATE. MADem Dec 2014 #51

She voted for the Iraq resolution Sanity Claws Dec 2014 #79

Yeah--all by herself, too!!! MADem Dec 2014 #81

She was great for the banksters...for people who vote Democratic..not so much... Ken Burch Dec 2014 #86

Yeah, that's why Warren signed that letter. 'Cause "she was great for the BANKSTERS!!" MADem Dec 2014 #87

If there were more like-minded congressmen who would not only cheer Grayson on, but also take Cal33 Dec 2014 #69

The ONLY reason why the best Democrats, like Grayson and Kucinich and sabrina 1 Dec 2014 #40

By contrast, keeping it on the down low has made these Democrats extremely effective. WhaTHellsgoingonhere Dec 2014 #83

Oh my... I remember your recent OP with about 350 posts. Quantess Dec 2014 #5

Here's some more comedy gold. Full ignore! Buh-bye, troll! True Blue Door Dec 2014 #6

No way will I put you on ignore. Quantess Dec 2014 #65

Never saw a jury say a reply of "stick this where the sun don't shine," "fuck you" and "fuck you" merrily Dec 2014 #55

Now THIS is a post from you I can respect Nevernose Dec 2014 #7

How soon they forget MFrohike Dec 2014 #8

The Syrian intervention that Republicans opposed because Obama's in the White House? True Blue Door Dec 2014 #9

Heh MFrohike Dec 2014 #10

You noticed no difference between his first and second terms? True Blue Door Dec 2014 #11

No MFrohike Dec 2014 #12

He's been relatively quiet in his second term. True Blue Door Dec 2014 #13

Yeesh MFrohike Dec 2014 #14

TBD is a master at making stuff up RobertEarl Dec 2014 #46

They "targeted" him because redistricting made him vulnerable. And he's talked about his shift Recursion Dec 2014 #20

That's how they targeted him. I'm not sure that's why. True Blue Door Dec 2014 #23

They don't care. Seriously. Same reason we didn't bother trying to beat Bachmann Recursion Dec 2014 #26

But that consideration is entirely because of shit the GOP did. True Blue Door Dec 2014 #28

You're vastly, *VASTLY* overestimating his "public stature" Recursion Dec 2014 #30

It's not a question of 'else' so much as priorities. True Blue Door Dec 2014 #33

Missed that interview could you please provide a link. aspirant Dec 2014 #50

Sorry, it was a quote in a profile piece, not an interview, but here it is Recursion Dec 2014 #52

Thanks aspirant Dec 2014 #53

He voted against the bill to provide aid to the Syrian 'Rebels', or terrorists sabrina 1 Dec 2014 #41

He is a principled voter. But he doesn't make noise like before. True Blue Door Dec 2014 #42

Yes, I agree, it is our fault and we have to change that. sabrina 1 Dec 2014 #43

Remember, he was willing to be aspirant Dec 2014 #49

LOL! Opposed because he didn't go to Congress, as required by a certain quaint piece of parchment. merrily Dec 2014 #56

Maybe the loss of his seat for a term in the interim had something to do with it? Recursion Dec 2014 #15

I kind of said that in the OP. True Blue Door Dec 2014 #17

No, I'm saying we did have his back, just like we had Dean's in 2004, and we aren't much help Recursion Dec 2014 #18

Hmm. I had thought the ratio was pretty low. Am I remembering wrong? True Blue Door Dec 2014 #19

For most House candidates it's $0 Recursion Dec 2014 #21

True, but his bird-dogging the GOP also brought in a lot of money against him. True Blue Door Dec 2014 #22

Money doesn't buy anybody a 20 point victory Recursion Dec 2014 #24

"Less confrontational tone"...this is basically my point. True Blue Door Dec 2014 #25

None (or very few) of us live in his district Recursion Dec 2014 #27

Normally I'd agree. Normally I'd say it's a candidate's responsibility to appeal to voters. True Blue Door Dec 2014 #32

And then Grayson defeated his Republican opponent. Grayson 2 Republicans 1 in a purple state. merrily Dec 2014 #57

It should have been Grayson 3. True Blue Door Dec 2014 #88

Let's not create false "facts" brooklynite Dec 2014 #31

So, Republicans did Grayson a favor in a purple state? That sounds like as false a fact as any. merrily Dec 2014 #58

No, they did themselves a favor by moving as many Republicans as possible into adjacent districts. brooklynite Dec 2014 #64

Sorry, something is still not ringing true. merrily Dec 2014 #70

Take a look at the Cook, Rothenberg, Sabato or DKos rating for his district...SOLID DEM brooklynite Dec 2014 #71

I believe his district is blue. That is not what I am questioning. merrily Dec 2014 #73

Not just blue...absolutely safe. brooklynite Dec 2014 #74

Careful, you're blowing the OP's reasoning merrily Dec 2014 #75

brooklynite rebuffed the OP in post #1. joshcryer Dec 2014 #89

He hasn't been quiet. He's been speaking out as he always has on issues sabrina 1 Dec 2014 #44

+1 I have to fess up here. merrily Dec 2014 #59

Yes, he is a very smart man. Extremely intelligent. He does enjoy calling out sabrina 1 Dec 2014 #82

I see him as a man who speaks out and shows that he cares about what he is talking about. jwirr Dec 2014 #16

He's not more quiet, fewer are choosing to listen n/t arcane1 Dec 2014 #29

I listen. What I hear is quieter. True Blue Door Dec 2014 #34

That is a very good point. arcane1 Dec 2014 #45

Alan Grayson is now SamKnause Dec 2014 #37

Yes, this is entirely my point. We were deprived of him through our own lack of attention. True Blue Door Dec 2014 #38

+1 merrily Dec 2014 #60

lets not forget DonCoquixote Dec 2014 #39

+1 merrily Dec 2014 #61

maybe he is fine-tuning his righteous anger Skittles Dec 2014 #47

Interesting RobertEarl Dec 2014 #48

really. who is this 'we' he's referring to? KG Dec 2014 #67

He's said plenty in the last couple of years. He also gets good amendments into bills. merrily Dec 2014 #54

He won a different seat quaker bill Dec 2014 #62

^^This^^. nt Zorra Dec 2014 #72

They could have eliminated the district. That's what they did to Kucinich. merrily Dec 2014 #78

Florida is growing quaker bill Dec 2014 #84

I know the gerrymandering was extreme. I hope like anything they don't have the house in 2020. merrily Dec 2014 #85

Yes!! Love it!! nt RiverLover Dec 2014 #63

Alan is a Rep in a district about as far from my own as it gets. I have and do support him Bluenorthwest Dec 2014 #66

I still send money now and then...I'm not in his district. PassingFair Dec 2014 #68

In term 1, Al Franken said somewhere (I can't find a link) that he planned to... Algernon Moncrieff Dec 2014 #76

Alan ran in a different district in 2012, a liberal Democratic district, and won, Zorra Dec 2014 #77

Sigh, sometime some of you should just sit back and do nothing but read, post after post, NoJusticeNoPeace Dec 2014 #80