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18. Silly me. I thought it was about the Cuban people, not one person.

Reply to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Wed Dec 17, 2014, 12:05 PM

Dec 2014

I was under the impression that it was la gente that mattered.

Turns out all along it was all about one man.

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Castro won. [View all] WilliamPitt Dec 2014 OP

But did Cuba win? Throd Dec 2014 #1

Did America? WilliamPitt Dec 2014 #2

absolutely. Schema Thing Dec 2014 #3

If I were to turn the US into a repressive dicatorship while making it more prosperous, Donald Ian Rankin Dec 2014 #77

We have blanket surveillance, militarized police, institutionalized torture, Maedhros Dec 2014 #79

Agree! n/t Nevada Blue Dec 2014 #95

I left out apartheid. [n/t] Maedhros Dec 2014 #101

Well I don't worry about going to prison for criticizing the President. NaturalHigh Dec 2014 #124

Don't care. Not worried about Cuba. Maedhros Dec 2014 #155

But Cuba under Batista thucythucy Dec 2014 #88

This message was self-deleted by its author Sweeney Dec 2014 #151

Cuban cigars for all! JaneyVee Dec 2014 #4

Smoke em if you got 'em! Initech Dec 2014 #58

Smoke 'em if you can afford 'em. Comrade Grumpy Dec 2014 #82

Classic car enthusiasts and collectors are probably salivating right about now VScott Dec 2014 #5

I know I am! I can't wait to shop on Cuban Ebay! n/t benz380 Dec 2014 #6

Not to mention… dhill926 Dec 2014 #22

To all the scuba divers mainstreetonce Dec 2014 #71

they already are. Here are some of the Cuba travel programs available on Road Scholar CTyankee Dec 2014 #119

If outlasting opposition, regardless of virtue (or lack thereof), is the defintion of "winning" Nuclear Unicorn Dec 2014 #7

Great. The embargo is stupid. It should be lifted as well. Tatiana Dec 2014 #8

What did he win?...nt SidDithers Dec 2014 #9

He won capitalism by spending decades fighting against it. JaneyVee Dec 2014 #16

I suspect that capitalism has just won. Orsino Dec 2014 #91

Old Age Liberal_Dog Dec 2014 #21

It's also something that many leaders we liked didn't get to experience, either. NBachers Dec 2014 #143

Well, he did win a thread title on DU BeyondGeography Dec 2014 #32

I just keep seeing Charlie Sheen.... msanthrope Dec 2014 #46

The Cuban system will lose. former9thward Dec 2014 #10

The Bush Family Dynasty brought Dictatorship and poverty, while stealing their sabrina 1 Dec 2014 #33

So we've been told for 55 years. LanternWaste Dec 2014 #54

No, we haven't had American investment or travel there for 55 years. former9thward Dec 2014 #62

Like haiti has. To their great benefit. NewDeal_Dem Dec 2014 #67

No American investment there or travel. former9thward Dec 2014 #85

There's both. NewDeal_Dem Dec 2014 #97

Nope. former9thward Dec 2014 #100

Yeah, nobody. I even know Americans who've done it, though our law makes it difficult NewDeal_Dem Dec 2014 #102

Maybe you should read my posts if you want to comment on them. former9thward Dec 2014 #104

Tourism in Haiti is an industry that has generated just under a million arrivals in 2012, NewDeal_Dem Dec 2014 #105

There is little U.S. investment there. former9thward Dec 2014 #106

Depends on where you go. Some sections of the country are reportedly very nice & far NewDeal_Dem Dec 2014 #111

I said there was no American tourism. former9thward Dec 2014 #114

No americans go to haiti? Funny my cousin was there twice last year. NewDeal_Dem Dec 2014 #122

So your cousin represents American tourism. former9thward Dec 2014 #125

You said there are no american tourists in haiti. But there are. and now I'm done with NewDeal_Dem Dec 2014 #126

Thank goodness. former9thward Dec 2014 #129

What Cuba transitions into will remain much more Schema Thing Dec 2014 #83

I hope Cuba is not your poster boy for socialism. former9thward Dec 2014 #86

lol, ok. Schema Thing Dec 2014 #87

They are not successful. former9thward Dec 2014 #92

Didn't we just cut food stamps again which forces the poor to ration food? Oilwellian Dec 2014 #109

LOL former9thward Dec 2014 #113

Privatization.... NewDeal_Dem Dec 2014 #130

Oh privatization is causing all the problems. former9thward Dec 2014 #134

As privatization began in 2001, apparently they were doing better before, yes. NewDeal_Dem Dec 2014 #136

The poster is a winger. NewDeal_Dem Dec 2014 #131

This isn't a game, and it's not about which team won frazzled Dec 2014 #11

Finally (and I'm a JFK fan). mmonk Dec 2014 #12

I have high hopes for this new relationship. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #13

You don't beat International Capitalism by being a nice guy. Odin2005 Dec 2014 #14

Ten years from now Cuba will be a capitalist society hack89 Dec 2014 #37

Who cares? Man from Pickens Dec 2014 #15

Some of the most beautiful beaches in the world a kennedy Dec 2014 #17

I want my 90th birthday party mainstreetonce Dec 2014 #73

Better hurry up, they won't last. NewDeal_Dem Dec 2014 #74

Silly me. I thought it was about the Cuban people, not one person. Dreamer Tatum Dec 2014 #18

L'etat c'est moi. Throd Dec 2014 #20

The one does not deny the other... LanternWaste Dec 2014 #56

Don't let some wanker turn you now. GeorgeGist Dec 2014 #61

Given the role Cuba has played in the Ebola crisis, this seems long overdue. bemildred Dec 2014 #19

Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh malaise Dec 2014 #23

Yeah, I like to rub it in. nt bemildred Dec 2014 #24

Imagine what Cuba could have been if they let those people own anything Dreamer Tatum Dec 2014 #27

oh boo, everyone knows cuba is a workers paradise where freedom reigns for all people nt msongs Dec 2014 #48

Like the US. NewDeal_Dem Dec 2014 #78

Recommended. H2O Man Dec 2014 #25

And those political prisoners sure as hell didnt win !! Rhinodawg Dec 2014 #26

Political prisoners never win... MattSh Dec 2014 #44

The political prisoners in Guantanamo Bay? LanternWaste Dec 2014 #57

Half-century long feuds with next door neighbors reflect badly on all parties carolinayellowdog Dec 2014 #28

Maybe we will be able to fly direct now Go Vols Dec 2014 #29

In my opinion as having seen all the coast of the USA riverbendviewgal Dec 2014 #51

Yes, and all it took for the win was 40 years of sanctions and lies and invasions. Fred Sanders Dec 2014 #30

Well, I think he is even a nice guy. He fought the corrupt Batista regime and the organized crime kelliekat44 Dec 2014 #31

I couldn't have said it better myself. giftedgirl77 Dec 2014 #49

Human Rights Watch, Amnesty International, and Reporters Without Borders see it differently onenote Dec 2014 #60

So does that mean you don't think Obama a "nice guy"? NewDeal_Dem Dec 2014 #80

if by being absorbed you mean winning - then yes. xchrom Dec 2014 #34

Finally an end to something completely unproductive Vox Moi Dec 2014 #35

When Cuba embraces capitalism will you say the same thing? hack89 Dec 2014 #36

Will you watch MTV's "Fiesta In Your Face at Fajita Beach: Havana Edition" in 2017? Throd Dec 2014 #41

I agree. There are decades of pent up and conflicting emotions and desires to be reconciled hack89 Dec 2014 #42

How about, "The Real Housewives of Trinidad" snooper2 Dec 2014 #47

Plus, he never lost an election. What a guy (nt) Nye Bevan Dec 2014 #38

No humanity and common sense won. nt craigmatic Dec 2014 #39

Castro won? Suits me. (nt) Paladin Dec 2014 #40

No Che won . . . ucrdem Dec 2014 #43

When Utopia is found, let me know! mfcorey1 Dec 2014 #45

Odd post. Won? Won what? He was fighting for regional and global communism. stevenleser Dec 2014 #50

Can we adopt their health care system, now? Hoyt Dec 2014 #52

American Cubans with family in Cuba won. Americans won. Fuck Castro. ohheckyeah Dec 2014 #53

Can't wait for Walmart to take over the island! bigwillq Dec 2014 #55

Oh gawd. SammyWinstonJack Dec 2014 #75

Panama has a McDonalds on every corner. roody Dec 2014 #148

Winning is an arbitrary and subjective concept chrisa Dec 2014 #59

I must respectfully but emphatically disagree with you about Vietnam. The Vietnamese won and KingCharlemagne Dec 2014 #120

That's what most republicans seem to be saying too. If we have to have a WINNER and a LOSER in pampango Dec 2014 #63

Exactly. nt Andy823 Dec 2014 #64

Isn't that funny? This OP, and most republicans are saying that, too? nt msanthrope Dec 2014 #65

Funny yes Andy823 Dec 2014 #68

Well, once you've called the President a LPOSUCS, you have to keep up the street cred. nt msanthrope Dec 2014 #70

LOL Andy823 Dec 2014 #110

Again? Bobbie Jo Dec 2014 #135

No shit--and when you google the post, although you've erased the shit from DU, what happens? msanthrope Dec 2014 #145

Ironically, Democrats have been against the embargo... joshcryer Dec 2014 #139

And I think that the recognition of that is what is missing from the OP....which means it really msanthrope Dec 2014 #146

Will cuba survive as socialist? Yeah, like china has. What did castro win? NewDeal_Dem Dec 2014 #66

Probably end up more like France than China, imo. Schema Thing Dec 2014 #84

France was once the world's biggest power & still is among the biggest world powers. NewDeal_Dem Dec 2014 #99

Indeed, look at other small island nations Schema Thing Dec 2014 #121

Finally get the red out Dec 2014 #69

He won 30 years ago when the last architect of the stupid poisoned-cigar Arkana Dec 2014 #72

I prefer to think of it as: U.S. hypocrisy (See: China, Communist) finally LOST. WinkyDink Dec 2014 #76

What about the people? ananda Dec 2014 #81

yes he did. time to move on. spanone Dec 2014 #89

Two words: Fulgencio Batista panader0 Dec 2014 #90

and now MFM008 Dec 2014 #93

You are so right! Tiene razon! Gracias para los factos de la historia. La lucha continua. ancianita Dec 2014 #94

If anything, they won the ability to experience American capitalism. Raine1967 Dec 2014 #96

The embargo will take an act of congress to end Major Nikon Dec 2014 #116

Strangely, POTU just dumped all this Cuba stuff on the next congress. Raine1967 Dec 2014 #118

Yep. Despite everything we've done, we couldn't dislodge him LittleBlue Dec 2014 #98

yes, Fidel did win. Now Raul....well....I do riversedge Dec 2014 #103

What will they win? NewDeal_Dem Dec 2014 #132

Do you know who just can't wait for cuba to open up? mitch96 Dec 2014 #107

LOL B Calm Dec 2014 #108

On its death throes, Captialism still seeks RoccoR5955 Dec 2014 #112

Again. Zorra Dec 2014 #115

Jury results LoL denbot Dec 2014 #117

Castro won? anamnua Dec 2014 #123

And the Cuban people? elleng Dec 2014 #127

what's your point? The cold war is over, and guess what Fidel is retired. An opportunity not only still_one Dec 2014 #128

What did he win? Renew Deal Dec 2014 #133

Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2014 #137

Pyrrhus won too. sir pball Dec 2014 #138

No need.... msanthrope Dec 2014 #150

Well, if it's any consolation, Cuba will be mostly under water in a few decades. progressoid Dec 2014 #140

He won mostly because he outlived so many of the Batista Cubans Warpy Dec 2014 #141

Wrong. moondust Dec 2014 #142

Some of us still believe in Freedoms and Human Rights Rhinodawg Dec 2014 #144

A huge victory for Castro, nilesobek Dec 2014 #147

I was certain we'd wait until Fidel died malthaussen Dec 2014 #149

won what? Erich Bloodaxe BSN Dec 2014 #152

What difference does it make? nt ladjf Dec 2014 #153

Countries have the right to determine their own destiny brush Dec 2014 #154