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uponit7771

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142. The SL area PD don't have any credibility... PERIOD.. till this day Wilson has NOT filled out....

Wed Dec 24, 2014, 11:09 PM

Dec 2014

...an incident report and his testimoney on Browns holding his hands up is 100% divergent of all the witness's.

An incident report would have kept that crap down and he would not have had a chance to change his story...

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Another black man was shot and killed by St. Louis police tonight. [View all] Drunken Irishman Dec 2014 OP

Nothing in the St. Louis media yet. Comrade Grumpy Dec 2014 #1

Live ustream feed 951-Riverside Dec 2014 #2

Second ustream feed 951-Riverside Dec 2014 #32

A few details in this report from Business Insider: pnwmom Dec 2014 #48

A lot of people in this thread putting the cart before the horse. _Blue_ Dec 2014 #98

This isn't a "party" issue. MoonRiver Dec 2014 #159

Why the Fuck can't those PD STOP killing unarmed Black People? Cha Dec 2014 #3

One of the tweets said Antonio has been left lying in the street for over an hour on Christmas eve. sheshe2 Dec 2014 #11

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It's heartbreaking, she.. and, of course, it brings out the racist assholes on DU, Again. Cha Dec 2014 #30

He/she is gone, I hope! Suich Dec 2014 #35

I alerted.. and MIRT Zapped it Good. Mahalo MIRT! Cha Dec 2014 #37

Cha, do you EVER sleep? mimi85 Dec 2014 #39

mimi~ Cha Dec 2014 #42

Another racist zapped.. thank you MIRT Cha Dec 2014 #36

Could you link to that please as I couldnt locate any details on what happened. nt cstanleytech Dec 2014 #19

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So they deserve the death penalty from some asshole trigger happy cop? Cha Dec 2014 #25

Damn, is that what they said? sheshe2 Dec 2014 #41

One right below you too, she.. I alerted but it was already "name removed".. but not before I got my Cha Dec 2014 #47

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Another racist asshole on DU.. big shocker! news like this makes you crawl out of the woodwork. Cha Dec 2014 #46

Holy Shit! sheshe2 Dec 2014 #50

Their big talking point is "Black on Black Crime".. and basically it's okay to kill Black People Cha Dec 2014 #51

Fascists enjoy murdering "Untermenschen". Odin2005 Dec 2014 #105

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enjoy your stay rbrnmw Dec 2014 #157

Now I want to know what he said! Odin2005 Dec 2014 #158

some racist nonsense rbrnmw Dec 2014 #160

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Photos 951-Riverside Dec 2014 #4

Mother of Antonio Martin 951-Riverside Dec 2014 #5

Protesters just broke the police tape line. joshcryer Dec 2014 #6

Good job. linuxman Dec 2014 #24

The tape lines were a clusterfuck. joshcryer Dec 2014 #28

To you, maybe. linuxman Dec 2014 #29

yeah, well maybe emotions run high when an unarmed Black person gets killed practically every day by ellenrr Dec 2014 #67

It doesn't appear that he was unarmed. pintobean Dec 2014 #71

One spokesmen for the protesters said it was non violent exboyfil Dec 2014 #97

Gun was planted. Anonymous shows no gun in oictures taken by protesters. ncjustice80 Dec 2014 #101

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Looked like the Police were trying to quickly remove the body before the crowd pushed up n/t 951-Riverside Dec 2014 #7

Anyone know when this shooting happened? 951-Riverside Dec 2014 #8

Acc to the Huff Po article: ellenrr Dec 2014 #92

I've been saying it, the killer cops aren't going away. joshcryer Dec 2014 #9

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"May I have your name?" "Officer Go Fuck Yourself." joshcryer Dec 2014 #10

Lord have mercy shenmue Dec 2014 #12

What did he do? cherokeeprogressive Dec 2014 #13

No idea. joshcryer Dec 2014 #15

I think it's time to abolish law enforcement entities like Police and Sheriffs. cherokeeprogressive Dec 2014 #20

Cool, it will save a bundle. linuxman Dec 2014 #26

Call Rand Paul!-nt Anansi1171 Dec 2014 #34

The mayor of your town? cherokeeprogressive Dec 2014 #38

I live in a "town" of 1/4 million linuxman Dec 2014 #40

Depends what "color" you are. IOW, anyone but the police. cherokeeprogressive Dec 2014 #52

Any examples? linuxman Dec 2014 #54

Then who do people call when there are muggings, assaults, murders, kidnappings, etc.? PlanetaryOrbit Dec 2014 #77

Be black and unarmed in St. Louis. ncjustice80 Dec 2014 #100

More tears. sheshe2 Dec 2014 #14

Here sheshe2 Dec 2014 #16

Valerie Schremp Hahn @valeriehahn claims that a gun was found at the scene 951-Riverside Dec 2014 #17

I find it interesting that she is the only source so far of this alleged gun sighting 951-Riverside Dec 2014 #33

maybe Valerie Schremp Hahn @valeriehahn is Witness 40 ;) nt ellenrr Dec 2014 #68

Conflicting reports. Earlier they said he was unarmed, but there is a photo of a gun at the scene LittleBlue Dec 2014 #18

Are you sure thats a gun? Looks to me like it could be one of those hand held mini video cstanleytech Dec 2014 #22

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Looks like a gun. But was it his? n/t nomorenomore08 Dec 2014 #135

Welp... it just got real. joshcryer Dec 2014 #43

Protesters messed with a cop car. joshcryer Dec 2014 #45

Sorry if this has already been posted. mimi85 Dec 2014 #49

Gas station lit on fire. joshcryer Dec 2014 #53

Fire got put out before it got out of control. joshcryer Dec 2014 #55

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I'm fairly certain a lot of stuff sails right over your head Skittles Dec 2014 #58

LOL!!!!11!!11 Hubert Flottz Dec 2014 #62

f*** these repuke trolling pieces of shit Skittles Dec 2014 #75

SOSDD! Hubert Flottz Dec 2014 #99

Enjoy your stay. U4ikLefty Dec 2014 #59

Tick.. Tick.. Tick... nt longship Dec 2014 #60

St. Louis County Police spokesman Brian Schellman says pintobean Dec 2014 #57

Protesters busted up the gas station LittleBlue Dec 2014 #61

That was the QuickTrip across the street pintobean Dec 2014 #66

The gas station didn't do anything wrong. PlanetaryOrbit Dec 2014 #79

Because LincolnsLeftHand Dec 2014 #102

Patience is a virtue. Eko Dec 2014 #63

Lets see the video. Downwinder Dec 2014 #64

Yes, Eko Dec 2014 #65

Yes, I agree. Have patience...Perhaps that isn't really a body in the street.... ellenrr Dec 2014 #69

Pretty sure you took everything Eko Dec 2014 #74

Sometimes I feel like I am an alien Eko Dec 2014 #80

Agreed Sherman A1 Dec 2014 #78

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Not sure how you come to the conclusion Eko Dec 2014 #72

news article is here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014972832 ellenrr Dec 2014 #73

This must end. lovemydog Dec 2014 #76

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black lives matter AngryAmish Dec 2014 #82

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Has anyone told white people? They do kill each other at a similar clip probably because most crime TheKentuckian Dec 2014 #86

Here's what's being reported so far justiceischeap Dec 2014 #85

All this leads me to believe no firearm was present... Earth_First Dec 2014 #87

There are images floating around Twitter that claim the gun magically appeared justiceischeap Dec 2014 #88

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also-- police have never been known to leave guns at the scene... nt ellenrr Dec 2014 #89

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Image of purported drop gun on Twitter justiceischeap Dec 2014 #96

Coverup!!!! ncjustice80 Dec 2014 #104

I get the feeling that even if YOU saw a shooting where a cop clearly fired in self defense, GGJohn Dec 2014 #126

I get the feeling that even if you saw a cop execute someone in cold blood, you would still scream ncjustice80 Dec 2014 #131

Then you would be wrong. GGJohn Dec 2014 #133

Driving my drivel? ncjustice80 Dec 2014 #141

So, what do you say now? GGJohn Dec 2014 #161

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"we"? When have "we" cried wolf? ellenrr Dec 2014 #94

This Reuters account covers also a song --- rogerashton Dec 2014 #95

Here is more video released by St Louis PD, from different angles and showing the shooting LittleBlue Dec 2014 #106

Like the first 2 grainy videos there's NO ONE WITH A GUN in those two videos other than a cop... uponit7771 Dec 2014 #109

Sad but this one appears to be legitimate. PeteSelman Dec 2014 #107

No it doesn't, this one is about as bad as Brown... except here the cop was SUPPOSED to wear a body uponit7771 Dec 2014 #108

The video shows someone pointing what appears to be a gun at the cop. Gravitycollapse Dec 2014 #110

There is no video of anyone pointing a gun at the cop, there's no one there who fires a gun uponit7771 Dec 2014 #111

There is video of someone pointing a gun at the cop. Gravitycollapse Dec 2014 #112

That's the BPD edited video... Just found out the place had a corner cam they're not releasing video uponit7771 Dec 2014 #113

Regardless of the video being cut off, you can see what appears to be a gun pointed at the cop. Gravitycollapse Dec 2014 #115

We're being told that he pointed a gun but I don't see it and I watched the videos 951-Riverside Dec 2014 #118

+1, release unedited videos.. admit the cop wasn't wearing a body cam and then not show uponit7771 Dec 2014 #122

I agree that all video should be released immediately. Gravitycollapse Dec 2014 #127

No, I need to see the gun.. clearly... no what someone is calling a gun... where's the guy uponit7771 Dec 2014 #120

Get your eyes checked IdiotWatcher Dec 2014 #153

welcome to du. may you learn something here uppityperson Dec 2014 #154

Wait... wait... in the video there's CLEARLY a woman walking towards the scene... why would anyone.. uponit7771 Dec 2014 #114

Get real. maced666 Dec 2014 #116

Video is edited... you know that right?! uponit7771 Dec 2014 #119

It doesn't appear as though the victim brandished the gun until he pointed it at the cop. Gravitycollapse Dec 2014 #117

The lady was clearly looking at the scene, even opens the door for the kid who ran after the cop uponit7771 Dec 2014 #121

You're not getting what I'm saying. He didn't brandish the gun until he pointed it. Gravitycollapse Dec 2014 #123

There was no "walk by" I'm talking about the women with the white pants walking TOWARDS the scene... uponit7771 Dec 2014 #124

You don't have to give them the benefit of the doubt. You just have to use your own two eyes. Gravitycollapse Dec 2014 #125

Forget it. GGJohn Dec 2014 #128

I don't have much reason to believe they get it right most of the time. Gravitycollapse Dec 2014 #129

Considering there are hundrens of thousands of cops in this country, GGJohn Dec 2014 #130

Cops operate in a corrupt system. Every day they make decisions to prop up said system. Gravitycollapse Dec 2014 #132

Don't get me wrong, something has to change, GGJohn Dec 2014 #134

Fine, you trust the BPDs edited video... I don't, I want to see the whole thing and hear from uponit7771 Dec 2014 #136

Why are the people that were there any more trustworthy than the police? LincolnsLeftHand Dec 2014 #137

Witness testimony would be unreliable from either side. Gravitycollapse Dec 2014 #139

Not this bullshit again, so anyone else would be indicted by the witness's telling similar account uponit7771 Dec 2014 #147

I'm sure you're aware of the joke that a prosecutor could indict a ham sandwich. Gravitycollapse Dec 2014 #148

Everyone else but a cop is a ham sandwhich... impunity is not good to give someone who has a uponit7771 Dec 2014 #149

You're preaching to the choir. Gravitycollapse Dec 2014 #150

The SL area PD don't have any credibility... PERIOD.. till this day Wilson has NOT filled out.... uponit7771 Dec 2014 #142

I am using my own two eyes and my eyes don't see a definitive gun or even anything "pointing" uponit7771 Dec 2014 #143

Come on, you have to pick your battles. PeteSelman Dec 2014 #144

After the witness's accounts coming in I disagree, I knew there was something wrong when the media uponit7771 Dec 2014 #145

NBC has all three videos vdogg Dec 2014 #138

Thanks for link. 840high Dec 2014 #140

No its not "Clear" the video was edited by the BPD... show ALL Of the video ... we have no idea uponit7771 Dec 2014 #146

So far it looks like justified self-defense. I hope that appearance and reality coincide. Vattel Dec 2014 #151

Yes, it does. mimi85 Dec 2014 #152