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American Democracy Is A Failure [View all] WillTwain Dec 2014 OP

A how do we start changing this, by getting good candidates to run and then voting every Thinkingabout Dec 2014 #1

Won't happen. Katashi_itto Dec 2014 #2

It does not look good. WillTwain Dec 2014 #5

That's my attitude. The system needs to collapse. Democracy may or may not take hold again but Katashi_itto Dec 2014 #7

Can you promise that the new system will be better? FrodosPet Dec 2014 #13

We came out of the Great Depression with the New Deal WillTwain Dec 2014 #16

I just would like to know heaven05 Dec 2014 #25

People are suffering now in large and growing numbers. WillTwain Dec 2014 #30

Oh, you're looking at the big picture, are you heaven05 Dec 2014 #40

Maybe I am wrong but what is your solution? WillTwain Dec 2014 #45

Massive demonstrations heaven05 Dec 2014 #91

Boycotts Will Work WillTwain Dec 2014 #102

But the people of Europe & Japan suffered a lot during WW2 and its aftermath, just as you fear the NewDeal_Dem Dec 2014 #84

History is replete heaven05 Dec 2014 #87

It could never happen again. Enthusiast Dec 2014 #109

Did I say the new system would be better? Katashi_itto Dec 2014 #17

an eirc hoffer quote that fits DonCoquixote Dec 2014 #74

You know, in retrospect...nt Anansi1171 Dec 2014 #55

Are you one of the problems or one of the solutions? Thinkingabout Dec 2014 #8

Neither. Katashi_itto Dec 2014 #9

Then change and become one of the solutions. Even if you are not an eligible voter then Thinkingabout Dec 2014 #11

Not anymore. I did that with Obama, worked on his campaign, canvassed. Twice. Katashi_itto Dec 2014 #18

We need to get beyond Obama WillTwain Dec 2014 #19

I would get involved for Warren or Sanders or someone that wasnt a marketing gimmick. Katashi_itto Dec 2014 #20

Wow, dramatic move. I do not blame you. Northern Europe? WillTwain Dec 2014 #26

Either Northern Europe or Japan, since i am hafu (half Japanese) Katashi_itto Dec 2014 #43

We built a home in the northern Andes. Puglover Dec 2014 #99

I like the way you think. pangaia Dec 2014 #129

Okay, then there are choices, I choose to stay and work towards getting Democrats elected. Thinkingabout Dec 2014 #27

Was I complaining? American is experiencing cultural Darwinism is all. Looks like it doesn't Katashi_itto Dec 2014 #47

I havent been complaining though. Katashi_itto Dec 2014 #100

Then do not get upset when things goes against you, how many republicans do you think Thinkingabout Dec 2014 #24

Again, you seem to think, that I think, we will have even a remotely working system Katashi_itto Dec 2014 #52

Do you have a name of a Republican who votes the way you want? Thinkingabout Dec 2014 #57

Are you capable of reading anything I said? Katashi_itto Dec 2014 #64

I have read what you said, did you read the question I ask? Thinkingabout Dec 2014 #79

You said "Do you have a name of a Republican who votes the way you want?" Katashi_itto Dec 2014 #90

Her voting record proves you wrong on this but cognitive dissonance helps those who wants to Thinkingabout Dec 2014 #94

How many democrats are going to help thém? CentralMass Dec 2014 #78

Let's start with those who voted for minimun wage increase. Did it get passed, no Thinkingabout Dec 2014 #82

So the messiah wasn't all that LiberalElite Dec 2014 #48

Same here. maddiemom Dec 2014 #60

It is more than just warding off the republicans. We must vote, yes. WillTwain Dec 2014 #3

This is a problem, we are looking for solutions, allowing GOP candidates to win is not a solution. Thinkingabout Dec 2014 #10

Right...but WillTwain Dec 2014 #12

Exactly Katashi_itto Dec 2014 #21

The numbers are on the side of Democrats, why are we losing elections? Thinkingabout Dec 2014 #22

Dems need a decent candidate to vote for. Odin2005 Dec 2014 #32

Thank you. nt LiberalElite Dec 2014 #49

Proof positive - Sherrod Brown. HughBeaumont Dec 2014 #119

Sherrod could be a political star with that gravely voice and likable personality. WillTwain Dec 2014 #124

I'd vote for him! And canvas too, here in his home state. RiverLover Dec 2014 #125

Will he take a V.P. spot? WillTwain Dec 2014 #127

We need to vote but they are uninspired with the lack of positive change WillTwain Dec 2014 #34

Because many democrats are damn fools! They sit home and don't vote somehow RKP5637 Dec 2014 #44

I have never missed a vote and it is not always easy to vote dem but I do. WillTwain Dec 2014 #50

Same here. I always vote, research each candidate and also elected judges. I don't care for RKP5637 Dec 2014 #54

Oh boy! maddiemom Dec 2014 #62

Until we get rid of the legalized bribery called "campaign contributions," we will continue to go Dustlawyer Dec 2014 #70

Too much money in politics for elections to matter project_bluebook Dec 2014 #37

For ex, Democrats who voted for the CRomnibus have received 2xs as much $$ from the finance industry RiverLover Dec 2014 #112

The Beat Goes On WillTwain Dec 2014 #113

I wish Bernie did but will never happen. project_bluebook Dec 2014 #130

Oh, there's another alternative. 99Forever Dec 2014 #4

This is very possible WillTwain Dec 2014 #6

I don't think our founding fathers ever imagined the extent to which greed could dominate our lives DrDan Dec 2014 #14

They did not imagine much of what we now live in WillTwain Dec 2014 #15

America never was and isnt a democracy 951-Riverside Dec 2014 #23

That's a Puke talking point. Odin2005 Dec 2014 #29

America isnt even a Democratic Republic 951-Riverside Dec 2014 #69

No, but it is supposed to be. Odin2005 Dec 2014 #88

It is not a democracy but a representative plutocracy jeepers Dec 2014 #58

Boring MFrohike Dec 2014 #72

I'll be crucified for saying this, but a benvolent dictatorship is looking better every day. Odin2005 Dec 2014 #28

FDR was as close as we ever got and it was great. WillTwain Dec 2014 #31

My thinking is that most Americans think only about the president when... Odin2005 Dec 2014 #35

Very True WillTwain Dec 2014 #42

Yes, that is what will be needed, another FDR, and a populace that gets their RKP5637 Dec 2014 #53

I am selling out. Buying an M.B.A. from Capella University and conquering the world. WillTwain Dec 2014 #56

... RKP5637 Dec 2014 #63

Heh. Did you ever see the anime series Higashi no Eden (Eden of the East)? unrepentant progress Dec 2014 #61

Sounds interesting! Odin2005 Dec 2014 #89

The problem is, the "benevolent dictatorship" would never end. A dictator can just extend their chrisa Dec 2014 #104

Benevolent is the key word WillTwain Dec 2014 #106

There isn't such a thing, imo. A dictator is a dictator. None can ever be trusted. chrisa Dec 2014 #107

It will need to be some sort of revolution. Maybe an occupy Wall Street derivative. WillTwain Dec 2014 #114

It definitely needs some heavy tweaking. Tuesday Afternoon Dec 2014 #33

The system was a failed experiment from the onset. 2banon Dec 2014 #36

Like Great Britain, the apple doesn't fall too far from the tree. WillTwain Dec 2014 #39

Even the "best" player on a team is not necessarily "good" world wide wally Dec 2014 #38

A recipe for feudalism WillTwain Dec 2014 #41

Feudalism or maybe more like a Dickens novel with the aristocracy and the working poor world wide wally Dec 2014 #46

Who da thunk it 50 years ago? WillTwain Dec 2014 #51

My take (a summary) rock Dec 2014 #59

Any good society of any flavor Needs that Demeter Dec 2014 #67

Very true n/t rock Dec 2014 #76

Occupy taught us to not have leaders FrodosPet Dec 2014 #135

Sad but true. JDPriestly Dec 2014 #65

It is working very well for,,,, Cryptoad Dec 2014 #66

Cryptoad WillTwain Dec 2014 #68

Critical Reading is Critical Cryptoad Dec 2014 #75

Come on man WillTwain Dec 2014 #77

LOL. You will learn who around here actually wants to have a discussion Rex Dec 2014 #81

then don't accuse people of things they didn't do........ Cryptoad Dec 2014 #85

Actually, it's working pretty shitty for the majority of those who actually vote, but ... dawg Dec 2014 #93

"A Republic, If You Can Keep It" Prism Dec 2014 #71

What has failed democracy is legalized bribery. closeupready Dec 2014 #73

OH, Europe is well-corrupted Demeter Dec 2014 #86

Yes but democracy is not important, it turns out capitalism was the only thing that mattered. Rex Dec 2014 #80

Mr. Madison's Republic rested on one key premise above all others: hifiguy Dec 2014 #83

100 years ago the conservative German historian Oswald Spengler argued... Odin2005 Dec 2014 #92

+ 1,000,000,000... What You Said !!! WillyT Dec 2014 #96

Our founding fathers were slave owners. randome Dec 2014 #95

dictatorship....if only.... ileus Dec 2014 #97

We can start building our own systems CJCRANE Dec 2014 #98

I'd say it has always been a failure. Oakenshield Dec 2014 #101

Interesting outlook. but wanting an Authoritarian government isn't going to fix our problems chrisa Dec 2014 #103

wtf. The Founders didn't "fail" us; we failed ourselves. It's the job of every new generation to ... Hekate Dec 2014 #105

Sickening ain't it? Enthusiast Dec 2014 #108

Most people are conservaties at heart. raouldukelives Dec 2014 #110

Conservatism is about fear and these are scary times. This sways wishy washy types to the right. WillTwain Dec 2014 #115

Most good ideas eventually fail due to human nature. FirstClassTicket Dec 2014 #111

But the earth is only 6000 years old. It cannot be evolution. Sarcasm. Europe is taking the approach WillTwain Dec 2014 #117

If so few people are capable of governing themselves how fewer are capable of governing others? nt Nuclear Unicorn Dec 2014 #116

It does not require huge numbers to govern. America thrived from FDR to Carter. WillTwain Dec 2014 #118

Favorite post to date!!!!!! RiverLover Dec 2014 #121

"Spectacular"? Nuclear Unicorn Dec 2014 #122

We had smaller numbers governing between 1930 and 1980. WillTwain Dec 2014 #123

How long has it been since Long and Roosevelt? Nuclear Unicorn Dec 2014 #133

Long was the greatest populist and was looking to run against Roosevelt when he was shot. WillTwain Dec 2014 #134

Moneygrubbing rulez! moondust Dec 2014 #120

We should let the south secede. WillTwain Dec 2014 #126

... cyberswede Dec 2014 #128

Why do you think this moment is the End Result For All Time...? lunatica Dec 2014 #131

Democracy is the worst form of government... EX500rider Dec 2014 #132