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In reply to the discussion: All I need to see (St. Louis Shooting) [View all]haele
(15,693 posts)I've filmed a video of a rainbow one-handed. Not difficult to raise and "shoot a picture" one-handed on a smart-phone, and you can get a cheap Cricket smart phone that you can use voice activation to bring up the camera and set it to video.
As for this "good shoot/bad shoot" situation:
1) Previous history of the young man who was shot had nothing - absolutely nothing - to do with the "present situation". The officer wasn't responding to an armed robbery call or any other call from what I could determine, so why was the young man being stopped or approached?
2) The primary unacceptable police behavior was letting a still living "suspect" lie bleeding to death on the pavement for near 30 minutes and letting him die on the parking lot. That smacks of a "Judge, Jury, and Executioner" attitude on the part of the police, and that is not what the police have ever supposed to have been for, once they were established as. I don't care if he was shot while holding a busload of preschoolers hostage. Even in the f***'n ride-along COPS shows, they call for an ambulance as soon as someone is shot, no matter who it is.
Where was the ambulance call?
3) I haven't seen enough in the provided by the police to unequivocally determine if it was a gun or a cell phone; the young man's stance says very little about what he had in his hand other than he was pointing something smallish, and the granularity of the released video really isn't clear enough that in what light was available, I could tell if it was a snub-nose revolver or if it was a smart-phone held somewhat sideways. Also, it's a snippet of a video, not the complete from just before the initiation of contact to the fall after being shot, just "suspect pulling something out of his pocket or waistband".
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4) It is obvious that not all police departments are the same and have the same protocol for "armed suspects" - witness a couple days later when a white woman in Texas decided to shoot up her affluent neighborhood and at the police who were trying to arrest her - and is still alive. If the police officer who shot the young man had been facing her, would he have shot her and left her to bleed to death on the pavement while he was getting his report ready? Likewise, would those Texas police officers have attempted to take an 18-year old black male who was shooting up his affluent neighborhood alive?
Is there a standard for shooting suspects and dealing out "final justice", or are there different standards or privileges to access to justice based first on race, then on gender, and ultimately on class?
Those are my questions. And that's where my outrage would come from.
Haele