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kioa

(295 posts)
23. I'm not a member of the NRA, but allow me to respond to this list.
Sat Jan 3, 2015, 12:55 PM
Jan 2015

1) "Civil Rights (pl) (n) -
Personal liberties that belong to an individual, owing to his or her status as a citizen or resident of a particular country or community."
A citizen of the USA has a liberty to keep and bear arms. Thus RKBA is a civil right.

2) You mean that criminals will create a black market when faced with prohibition?
Good point, but I have no idea how you think this bolsters the argument for gun control.

3) "Assault Weapons BAN" It's a difficult sell to try to claim that you don't want to ban guns while supporting a gun ban

4) You don't think the US should improve it's abysmal mental health care?
I disagree.

5) Odd accusation. Any supporting links?

6) None of those countries can choose their own Head of State either.
I prefer the greater personal liberties the USA has.

7) Guns when "used as directed" don't commit murder. Thus the law against murder.
If your problem is with mass casualties: the 3 biggest mass killings in US history is 9/11, OKC bombing & Happy Land Fire; none of which used a firearm.

8) CCL holders are less likely to commit crimes than the general public or police officers.
Zimmerman should been found guilty & put in prison; are you going to support doing away with the right of a fair trial as well?

9) The sniper rifles used by the police & military is the Winchester M70 & Remington M700.
Both rifles are Bolt Action hunting rifles.
Tell me again how you aren't going to 'take people's guns away'.

10) People convicted of Domestic Abuse are felons. Felons lose the RKBA

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kick and recommend samsingh Jan 2015 #1
K&R 99Forever Jan 2015 #2
K&r well done! Takket Jan 2015 #3
Let's hope the hosts allow this to stand Bjorn Against Jan 2015 #4
Very angry? Apoplectic would be more accurate. The NRA is central to the current discussion of Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #6
Crisis stage? Hyperbole much? hack89 Jan 2015 #11
We've only cut it in half??!? Un-frickin-believable that we tolerate that. lastlib Jan 2015 #20
Such as? nt hack89 Jan 2015 #22
Well, we could start by..... lastlib Jan 2015 #24
and how would that cut the rate? Duckhunter935 Jan 2015 #32
How does the NRA meet the standards of a terrorist organization? GGJohn Jan 2015 #36
I would like to hear that also Duckhunter935 Jan 2015 #44
Are you kidding? MrMickeysMom Jan 2015 #48
That doesn't answer my question. GGJohn Jan 2015 #51
Then, I suggest you read again... MrMickeysMom Jan 2015 #52
You're saying that because YOU and some OTHERS have deemed it to be financial terrorism GGJohn Jan 2015 #56
That is an amazing leap Duckhunter935 Jan 2015 #59
It's people like that poster with the extremist views that make the NRA so effective. GGJohn Jan 2015 #60
they tend to make it ten times bigger Duckhunter935 Jan 2015 #61
I'd spend a little more time reading... MrMickeysMom Jan 2015 #66
Because terrorism has a specific and well defined meaning in the eyes of the law? hack89 Jan 2015 #68
sure they can Duckhunter935 Jan 2015 #74
Local municipalities are forbidden from enacting stricter firearms laws due to state pre-emption GGJohn Jan 2015 #72
Bloomberg spends more than the NRA Duckhunter935 Jan 2015 #58
"I and others have deemed financial terrorism" Duckhunter935 Jan 2015 #63
Here's one... MrMickeysMom Jan 2015 #69
well I am sure Duckhunter935 Jan 2015 #75
Can we get rid of the hyperbole please? hack89 Jan 2015 #37
That post is about as stupid as those saying that certain members of Congress or SCOTUS GGJohn Jan 2015 #40
yep nt Duckhunter935 Jan 2015 #45
yes, once again Duckhunter935 Jan 2015 #30
The total number of guns has simply grown with the rise in population, Fred. Here's a graph: NYC_SKP Jan 2015 #54
30 to 40000 firearm related deaths per year forever is an acceptable price for the NRA and gun folks Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #62
Of which 2/3 of those are suicides. GGJohn Jan 2015 #64
we sure need to help Duckhunter935 Jan 2015 #67
yes ensure you add the suicides Duckhunter935 Jan 2015 #65
I think bemusement is a more accurate term hack89 Jan 2015 #8
No one has mentioned any of the things that concern you....you raise it, rather defensively. Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #10
I love these threads. I like to encourage them hack89 Jan 2015 #12
~~~ + well a lot discntnt_irny_srcsm Jan 2015 #14
Excellent for the repugs also! pocoloco Jan 2015 #19
Yes it is amazing to see Duckhunter935 Jan 2015 #42
They will show up, they always do Duckhunter935 Jan 2015 #33
"the president and the Democratic party look out for us and make us feel comfortable." paleotn Jan 2015 #18
There is a lot we can do to fix that hack89 Jan 2015 #21
So what are your suggestions Duckhunter935 Jan 2015 #43
Demanding all this "explaining" from others while explaining nothing yourself is.....boring.... Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #70
I have explained many times before Duckhunter935 Jan 2015 #71
I agree with all the points in the OP, what more does one need to know? Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #73
And just what game would that be? GGJohn Jan 2015 #76
at least twice now he has accused me of Duckhunter935 Jan 2015 #80
He has a bad habit of accusing others of things they never said and then not apologizing GGJohn Jan 2015 #81
I know Duckhunter935 Jan 2015 #83
and you would be lying sir Duckhunter935 Jan 2015 #79
you have to seperate the Duckhunter935 Jan 2015 #29
And Hitler made the 'trains run on time.' onehandle Jan 2015 #46
Other than you losing by Godwin's law, that was actually Benito Mussolini. nt NutmegYankee Jan 2015 #53
Hey, I didn't defend the NRA on a liberal forum. onehandle Jan 2015 #77
Neither have I for that matter. NutmegYankee Jan 2015 #78
Nope. Upstream. onehandle Jan 2015 #82
link to one Duckhunter935 Jan 2015 #84
yes today they tend to be nuts Duckhunter935 Jan 2015 #55
The NRA is as much a civil rights organization as David Duke is a human rights activist. Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #5
When visiting youtube I STILL get the ad, Doctor_J Jan 2015 #7
Obama and the Democratic party have been good to gun owners hack89 Jan 2015 #9
I do too Duckhunter935 Jan 2015 #34
K & R Thespian2 Jan 2015 #13
NGVAC, they're very helpful discntnt_irny_srcsm Jan 2015 #15
Check this out... NYC_SKP Jan 2015 #27
soounds like some kind of terrorism Duckhunter935 Jan 2015 #35
K&R. Paladin Jan 2015 #16
Gun ownership gives you more rights in America than regular people. onehandle Jan 2015 #17
The President and the Democratic Party platform agree the 2nd protects an individual right. kioa Jan 2015 #26
It's amazing how many folks come to DU armed with NRA talking points. onehandle Jan 2015 #39
The President's statements & the Democratic Party are "NRA talking points"?! kioa Jan 2015 #47
But you didn't stop at the Democratic platform. onehandle Jan 2015 #50
Sorry, bud. kioa Jan 2015 #57
There's that NRA talking points meme again, right on time. GGJohn Jan 2015 #49
I'm not a member of the NRA, but allow me to respond to this list. kioa Jan 2015 #23
I want to address two points.. mountain grammy Jan 2015 #25
No. Laws against murder are still there. kioa Jan 2015 #28
and you would be wrong on both points Duckhunter935 Jan 2015 #38
Same pathetic NRA propaganda, different day. 99Forever Jan 2015 #85
too bad those points appear Duckhunter935 Jan 2015 #86
If you manage to come up with something more substantial than "ZOMG NRA!!1!!" I will be happy to kioa Jan 2015 #87
too bad that the cretins who run that organization will never develop the conscience niyad Jan 2015 #31
K&R. nt tblue37 Jan 2015 #41
Locking. aikoaiko Jan 2015 #88
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