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In reply to the discussion: Charlie Hebdo suspect said Abu Ghraib torture pics drove him to enlist in Jihad against USA in 2008 [View all]Octafish
(55,745 posts)93. Absolutely. It was in Reader's Digest.
Once, when Grandpa Prescott wrote about what Ike would call the Military-Intelligence-Congressional Complex.
In 1959, then-U.S. Senator Prescott Sheldon Bush, wrote back in 1959 to brag, rightfully so, for Boeing, General Electric, Westinghouse, Remington, Chevron and the rest of the war profiteers still hogging at the trough of the U.S. Treasury in the present day in one guise or another:
To Preserve Peace Lets Show Russians How Strong We Are
By Prescott Bush
U.S. Senator from Connecticut;
member of the Senate Armed Services Committee
The Readers Digest July 1959
MANS GREATEST danger, it is said, is ignorance. In a very real sense, the Soviet Unions ignorance of our military strength may be the source of her gravest periland ours. Kaiser Wilhelm started World War I because he miscalculated Allied power. Hitler, mistakenly thinking he could blitz the world, launched World War II. Kruschev today lacks firsthand knowledge of our country; he may be given what others think he would like to hearrather than an objective report on our actual military strength. Although it seems impossible that any sane person could start a war, we would be wise to take no chances.
Why not invite the Soviet high command to the United States for a conducted tour of our military might? We are bringing Russians to see our farms and factories, our scientific laboratories and research centers; we exchange dancers and musicians. Why not have their military leaders over for the most beneficial look of all? Our expressed policy, the aim and purpose of our entire defense system, is to deter the Kremlin from starting a war. What better way to deter than to show?
What we could show is nothing more nor less than the greatest military might ever assembled in the history of the world. If the Soviet high command could see what we have, they should be of our mindthat for them to start war today would be an act of insanity.
We could start in a Pentagon briefing room. There, with maps, globes, films and sound-projection equipment to help illustrate our points, we could give them a good hard look at the distribution of American power. Then we could fly the group to Mountain Home Air Force Base in Montana, where bombers of the Strategic Air Command are on 24-hour alert, many ready to take off within 15 minutes. We could see an awe-inspiring line of B-47s, any one of which can, in a single mission, deliver explosive power equivalent to that of all the bombs dropped by all sides in World War II. We could invite the commander of the Soviet air force to ride in one of these planes, and see it refueled in the air, thus quietly demonstrating that, while most Soviet bombers would have to fly one-way missions, ours can strike any target in the world and return nonstop.
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The demonstration at SAC should effectively dismiss from Soviet minds any speculation about the possibility of their gaining an advantage from all-out war any time soon. But we must face the fact that in a few years the Russians may be able to zero in our SAC bases with ballistic missiles. To drive this temptation out of their minds, we could show them other deterrents.
CONTINUES
The Readers Digest
July 1959 pp. 25-30
Prescott Bush detailed how Kruschev and the head of the Soviet armed forces be our guest on nuclear submarines, demonstrations of sea- and land-launched ICBMs, operations from aircraft carriers and a cruise aboard the inter-continental strategic bomber, the B-52.
The guy was on to something. You know how much they get for a B-2 these days? Two billion? Each?
Almost forgot. Prescott also discussed the strategic importance of Iraq
the very same right next door to Iran, the very place the CIA and MI6 had, five years earlier,
replaced a democratically elected government with a despot, the Shah. For the oil, Id wager.
Its fortunate for them that we want only peace with justice. Our entire record attests to that. We have no history of aggression, profess no desire for world domination, as do the Communists. Only by their continued menace have we been forced to take these measures for defense.
I ASK, Why dont we show the Russians many of these defense measures? What I would not show them is any self-satisfaction on our part about the future, any slowing-up of plans to produce the new weapons which must inevitably take the place of the old ones. I believe we are in a continuing struggle to keep on top in this business of declaring war. I think that the Russians are never to be underrated. [font color="red"]I also believe that the Communists are master bluffers that they seek to put us off by arrogant threats to Berlin and to the peace of the far Pacific, and, while our people are preoccupied with these threats, they may try to take over Iraq as the Chinese Reds have conquered Tibet.
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So. At least three generations of the Bush Family Evil Empire have had their eyes on Iraqs oil. Interesting how Prescott mentioned Tibet's destruction by China. How was he to know his namesake would one day become head of the U.S.-China Chamber of Commerce? The article also shows how Prescott boosted the Cold War, way back in 59. Its not so odd to think that three generations of crazy petrodollar-loving warmongers would rise to the top echelons of American leadership.
This is exactly what Ike was talking about when he mentioned being on our guard against the Military-Industrial Complex. The Bushes and their wealthy supporters from both major political parties may think they're American royalty, but, as you know, KingCharlemagne, all they represent is a multi-generational mob of banksters, gangsters, and traitors.
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Charlie Hebdo suspect said Abu Ghraib torture pics drove him to enlist in Jihad against USA in 2008 [View all]
Octafish
Jan 2015
OP
And we believe mass murderers now? Look...some people just like to kill, and like to find
msanthrope
Jan 2015
#2
Like the US leadership gives a rats ass about the millions of civilians they've killed either.
NewDeal_Dem
Jan 2015
#117
Well, shit.....people never lie in court, or come up with excuses for their anti-social behavior! nt
msanthrope
Jan 2015
#12
Agreed. Like how Dennis MILLER and his ilk claim they turned wingnut over 9-11. n/t
UTUSN
Jan 2015
#7
Without the invasion of Iraq, those determined to kill would have to find another excuse.
msanthrope
Jan 2015
#44
So you don't think anyone was motivated by the Abu Ghraib tortures and murders?
riderinthestorm
Jan 2015
#66
I think plenty of people take tragedy and murder and use it as motivator to do the really
msanthrope
Jan 2015
#73
That's fine but the State department has specifically said there's been blowback
riderinthestorm
Jan 2015
#77
The comment was made in 2008 to explain why he wanted to become a jihadist
riderinthestorm
Jan 2015
#213
george w bush made it to iraq though, with divisions. speaking of mass murderers.
NewDeal_Dem
Jan 2015
#120
I'm in full agreement with your post. (And with this OP in general as well)
dissentient
Jan 2015
#40
I totally see how you could mistake French cartoonists for US Army reserves. nt
msanthrope
Jan 2015
#13
"starting with April Glaspie" -- actually, I think you need to go back a bit farther in time, at
KingCharlemagne
Jan 2015
#38
Thanks (I think). I'm not sure there's any way to 'love' a specific post the way
KingCharlemagne
Jan 2015
#58
We could push the starting point back to 1953 when the CIA and FDR's grandson
KingCharlemagne
Jan 2015
#83
prescott's dad sam: war industries board WWI, rockefeller/harriman associate,
NewDeal_Dem
Jan 2015
#128
Just think if the BFEE would have stuck to the Afghanistan war and left Iraq alone.
Rex
Jan 2015
#37
Does anyone bring up the CONNECTIONS between the House of Bush and House of Bin Laden anymore?
Octafish
Jan 2015
#42
I suspect they are defending the status quo, meaning the Military Industrial Complex.
Octafish
Jan 2015
#96
Why do alleged progressives think that right wing homophobes, anti-Semites and racists are credible?
SidDithers
Jan 2015
#171
Why do alleged progressives laugh about the BFEE and try to pretend it doesn't exist?
Rex
Jan 2015
#172
You're just going to ignore the promotion of blatant homophobe shitbag Wayne Madsen?...
SidDithers
Jan 2015
#180
Beside giving your word, you have failed to show where he is any of those things.
Octafish
Jan 2015
#183
Interesting, that same asshole was instrumental if fucking up the BOG when it first started
Rex
Jan 2015
#98
The source was ''In These Times.'' You really don't contribute a thing, do you, SidDithers?
Octafish
Jan 2015
#95
Because you have an agenda? What do you think about Bush, Bin Laden and HARKEN?
Octafish
Jan 2015
#107
No. I was not shocked because you never give a shit how loony or disgusting your source is.
zappaman
Jan 2015
#108
Wayne Madsen is a homophobic, anti-Semite who writes for a Holocaust denial site.
zappaman
Jan 2015
#136
Is that the same rense your Tag Team buddy SidDithers of DU quoted in post 75?
Octafish
Jan 2015
#148
Why are you deflecting from your support of a writer who is a homophobic, anti-semite?
zappaman
Jan 2015
#150
You are acting desperate, zappaman. As the facts aren't on your side, understandable.
Octafish
Jan 2015
#154
Never. That's why I post on the BFEE and the crimes of the national security state.
Octafish
Jan 2015
#193
No. Our difference is that I don't give legitimacy to homophobes, racists and anti-Semites...
SidDithers
Jan 2015
#203
You could wipe out my entire state and I still wouldn't travel to another country and kill people.
randome
Jan 2015
#55
And they made easy targets for terrorists who were on the No-Fly List for Years.
Octafish
Jan 2015
#129
So the years of the little bush were a massive give-away to the...
Dont call me Shirley
Jan 2015
#181
If it was me, I would have self deleted when shown I was using turds as sources.
zappaman
Jan 2015
#124
I never knew the staff at Charlie Hebdo worked at Abut Ghraib... N.T.
Donald Ian Rankin
Jan 2015
#190
Poor sociopath needs a map of the world. He's got the 2 sides of the Atlantic ocean mixed up
Pooka Fey
Jan 2015
#197
We have and still are the driving force behind their recruitment efforts in the ME. We are still
jwirr
Jan 2015
#207
Yes, out corporations and their stockholders are making bundles off of endless war and they finally
jwirr
Jan 2015
#211
In 2009, Gen. Jones reported Al Qaeda was down to less than 100 members in Afghanistan.
Octafish
Jan 2015
#216