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YoungDemCA

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38. I think the truth re: Saudi Arabia's support for terrorism is quite complicated...
Mon Jan 12, 2015, 05:25 PM
Jan 2015

15 of the 19 hijackers were Saudi nationals. Osama bin Laden was one, too. Many wealthy Saudis (beyond Osama) have connections to terrorism. That doesn't mean that the entire royal family-which has 15,000 members, just as an FYI-is personally involved, or that any of the top leaders of Saudi Arabia had any foreknowledge about 9/11.

It's just as likely that the Saudi military and intelligence services were infiltrated by al-Qaeda and similar groups. There's a lot of sympathy for them in the Saudi population. And I remember reading in the 9/11 Commission Report and other sources that many of the Islamic charities in KSA were fronts for Al-Qaeda.

I have a hunch that, in the personalistic Saudi culture, it would be very easy to exploit the extensive support networks that were available to Saudi nationals. I don't think active support was always necessary for Al-Qeada to thrive in Saudi Arabia. More like passive neglect/indifference from the regime. Before 9/11, bin Laden wasn't even super-well known-to say nothing of most of his followers.

Though I do agree that the Saudis have a lot to answer for, I just don't know how much they were actually aware of what some of their citizens were up to before 9/11. And even after 9/11, there's still a big divide between the Wahhabi hard-liners and the moderates within the Kingdom-a divide that is present among the royal family, too.

It's a complicated, frustrating situation.

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It will provide more of the story CJCRANE Jan 2015 #1
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The US isn't just covering SA's ass whatchamacallit Jan 2015 #2
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Precisely. Enthusiast Jan 2015 #74
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If/When the country finds out how far Bush went ThoughtCriminal Jan 2015 #20
I had Dubai in the office pool. SomeGuyInEagan Jan 2015 #47
I think the Bush Crime Family's Peruvian aquifer may be where they go. 99th_Monkey Jan 2015 #63
Paraguay. And I've never seen confirmation... Peace Patriot Jan 2015 #66
Thanks for the correction. Yep. Paraguay. nt 99th_Monkey Jan 2015 #81
Absolutely The Blue Flower Jan 2015 #29
Thanks to former Senator Graham & Reps. Walter Jones and Steven Lynch KoKo Jan 2015 #4
Jones was the Republican who came up with Freedom Fries wasn't he? But then he sabrina 1 Jan 2015 #8
An ethical Congressman? A Republican no less? Maybe there is hope for the USA. Scuba Jan 2015 #12
I think he is ethical. It took a lot of courage at the time. He was a hero to the Right for sabrina 1 Jan 2015 #15
Imagine that the voters might respect a politician with principles. Scuba Jan 2015 #16
Yes, many probably agreed with him when nothing worked out the way they had expected. sabrina 1 Jan 2015 #17
His District in NC is heavily Military and Conservative. KoKo Jan 2015 #43
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I didn't know he later tried to end funding for that war. lovemydog Jan 2015 #19
This could push SA to tell the truth Politicalboi Jan 2015 #6
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With 9/11 in your OP subject line, I am surprised that the CT Posse has not alerted. rhett o rick Jan 2015 #7
This isn't truther CT nonsense and nobody here wants to alert it. cpwm17 Jan 2015 #25
I have to wonder though, if it does get declassified, will anyone care? progressoid Jan 2015 #9
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it's time to unravel the whole damn afghan. bbgrunt Jan 2015 #39
This is a good beginning. Duval Jan 2015 #10
You Are Quite Welcome !!! WillyT Jan 2015 #48
Thank you Graham, Jones and Lynch. The truth will set us free. Scuba Jan 2015 #13
Release those 28 pages. lovemydog Jan 2015 #18
The smoking gun that the US knew what was going on and wanted Baitball Blogger Jan 2015 #22
I knew it mrmule Jan 2015 #23
What is the purpose of free speech if folks do not have the full story to free speech about? Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #24
Illusion comes to mind. WinkyDink Jan 2015 #44
Kick for facts. riqster Jan 2015 #26
Bush and Cheney covering for themselves and their Saudi partners. Bluenorthwest Jan 2015 #27
This would be a good start, but ... aggiesal Jan 2015 #28
And what about... Enthusiast Jan 2015 #77
Gee. Saudi Arabia and 9-11 missing from Official 9-11 Report. Octafish Jan 2015 #30
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"A new Pearl harbour" grahamhgreen Jan 2015 #32
Ignoring that relationship all along LiberalLovinLug Jan 2015 #33
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Thank you Bob Graham, for not letting this go. mountain grammy Jan 2015 #35
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I think the truth re: Saudi Arabia's support for terrorism is quite complicated... YoungDemCA Jan 2015 #38
The bin Laden family are some of the wealthiest in the world riderinthestorm Jan 2015 #52
Osama =/= his entire family YoungDemCA Jan 2015 #55
Of course but to casually dismiss the global importance of the bin Laden name riderinthestorm Jan 2015 #56
Your last sentence is a common myth YoungDemCA Jan 2015 #57
Oh boy, so now we're splitting hairs on exactly WHO ran OBL? riderinthestorm Jan 2015 #58
+1 an entire shit load. Enthusiast Jan 2015 #78
Saudi Arabia is one of the most controlled and repressive countries on earth. Peace Patriot Jan 2015 #67
Bless Bob Graham for his unwavering push for truth. Been at it since early 2000s madfloridian Jan 2015 #40
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Colin Powell and his wife were also good buddies with the royals. Lars39 Jan 2015 #76
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I remember that request from the Saudis but cannot find a link. gordianot Jan 2015 #50
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The 46 Senators Who Urged Bush to Declassify the 28 Pages johnnyreb Jan 2015 #51
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the U.S. government’s position is “to protect the government most responsible for that network Caretha Jan 2015 #54
Mike Malloy covered this a decade ago... Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2015 #59
k&r... spanone Jan 2015 #62
I'll bet the reason this is hitting the news now is because Saudi Arabia is letting oil prices drop. Kablooie Jan 2015 #64
That's an interesting guess as to what's really going on, Kabloole! Peace Patriot Jan 2015 #68
As if everyone doesn't already know what happened on that day, and what ChisolmTrailDem Jan 2015 #65
Bush was in on it, as I've always suspected. blkmusclmachine Jan 2015 #69
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Sen Graham interview from 2011 magical thyme Jan 2015 #71
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And yet the Senator didn't place it in the congressional record before he left. hootinholler Jan 2015 #72
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