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In reply to the discussion: How is religion any different than creative speculation??? [View all]Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)42. Should people such as Jimmy Carter be subject to more ridicule?
Former President Jimmy Carter has been called American's most famous Sunday school teacher for a reason. The former commander-in-chief just finished his 561st lesson at Maranatha Baptist Church in Plains, Georgia. Carter recently condensed those lessons into a 366-day devotional, Through the Year with Jimmy Carter, and the NIV Lessons from Life Bible (Zondervan). The nation's 39th President spoke with Christianity Today about how his personal faith contributed to his time in office and beyond.
In what ways did faith impact your presidency?
I've always been fully committed to separation of church and state. I didn't permit worship services in the White House as had been done earlier. I was careful not ever to promote my own Christianity as superior in America to other religions, because I feel all religious believers should be treated carefully. At the same time, there's no way I could ever separate my Christian belief from my obligations as a naval officer, as a governor or as President, or from my work now. I can't say my commitments as President were free of my beliefs. We worship the Prince of Peace, and one of the key elements of my life as President in challenging times was to keep our country peaceful. I was able to deal with challenges without launching a missile or dropping a bomb. My commitment to peace was an aspect of my Christian faith. Also, basic human rights are obviously compatible with the teachings of Jesus Christ, and I made human rights a foundation of foreign policy.
You wrote that you made every effort to keep a pledge that you would not lie. "Still, I was not able to keep 100 percent of my campaign promises," you said. Did you have disappointments or regrets about your presidency?
When you're campaigning, you don't really have an awareness of the limitations of a President in dealing with Congress. Sometimes I made promises, but I had four years instead of an anticipated eight years. I never did violate my promise to tell the truth. I've been asked if there was ever any incompatibility between my duties as President and my duties as a Christian. There was one thing that bothered me and that was the issue of abortion. I've never believed Jesus Christ would approve of abortion except when the mother's life is in danger or as a result of incest or rape. Of course, the Supreme Court ruled differently. Within the ruling, I tried to minimize abortion as best I could. On the issue of abortion my beliefs are contradictory to what the Supreme Court ruled.
http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2012/januaryweb-only/interview-jimmy-carter.html
In what ways did faith impact your presidency?
I've always been fully committed to separation of church and state. I didn't permit worship services in the White House as had been done earlier. I was careful not ever to promote my own Christianity as superior in America to other religions, because I feel all religious believers should be treated carefully. At the same time, there's no way I could ever separate my Christian belief from my obligations as a naval officer, as a governor or as President, or from my work now. I can't say my commitments as President were free of my beliefs. We worship the Prince of Peace, and one of the key elements of my life as President in challenging times was to keep our country peaceful. I was able to deal with challenges without launching a missile or dropping a bomb. My commitment to peace was an aspect of my Christian faith. Also, basic human rights are obviously compatible with the teachings of Jesus Christ, and I made human rights a foundation of foreign policy.
You wrote that you made every effort to keep a pledge that you would not lie. "Still, I was not able to keep 100 percent of my campaign promises," you said. Did you have disappointments or regrets about your presidency?
When you're campaigning, you don't really have an awareness of the limitations of a President in dealing with Congress. Sometimes I made promises, but I had four years instead of an anticipated eight years. I never did violate my promise to tell the truth. I've been asked if there was ever any incompatibility between my duties as President and my duties as a Christian. There was one thing that bothered me and that was the issue of abortion. I've never believed Jesus Christ would approve of abortion except when the mother's life is in danger or as a result of incest or rape. Of course, the Supreme Court ruled differently. Within the ruling, I tried to minimize abortion as best I could. On the issue of abortion my beliefs are contradictory to what the Supreme Court ruled.
http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2012/januaryweb-only/interview-jimmy-carter.html
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I find it incredible that people do not understand a positive reason for spirituality
uppityperson
Jan 2015
#4
In my opinion, it goes both ways and I see these as defensive attacks at this point.
PeaceNikki
Jan 2015
#7
Breaking it down to Us vs Them continues to make the world a more difficult place
uppityperson
Jan 2015
#11
I do not see how that relates to my post. Maybe you relied to the wrong person. nt
uppityperson
Jan 2015
#23
Well, to start with, scientific provable stuff is provable. And it changes as we
genwah
Jan 2015
#52
This one has spent the time since the paris massacre seeing just out outrageous he can be.
Warren Stupidity
Jan 2015
#56
When our kid was about 7, I asked if he could prove we weren't all just brains in jars
MannyGoldstein
Jan 2015
#24
because there is a solid evidentiary basis for all of our assertions regarding those things.
Warren DeMontague
Jan 2015
#14
You are apparently unaware of how many assumptions are required to reach your conclusions.
NYC_SKP
Jan 2015
#58
Science is always open to new information. Seems to be the biggest difference.
Major Nikon
Jan 2015
#67
Since this is a Democratic board where people presumably hope to see Democrats elected
onenote
Jan 2015
#31
Well because in the long run, ending a reliance on religion for All Americans
el_bryanto
Jan 2015
#41
I would ask if religion could be considered, in some instances... the same as meditation.
cherokeeprogressive
Jan 2015
#32
Mocking/questioning/disagreeing with the latter is (mostly) deemed acceptable.
Behind the Aegis
Jan 2015
#33