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kwassa

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57. I disagree in this regard.
Sun Jan 18, 2015, 01:31 AM
Jan 2015

There is a multiplicity of viewpoints in certain countries in the Middle East.

Lebanon is made of made of highly-diverse civilian population of many different religions, or sects, including Christians. Syria has differing ethnicities, for a long time ruled by the Alawite minority. Other countries have both Sunni and Shia Muslims. Many Middle Eastern countries have historically both Christian and Jewish populations that were tolerated in them.

But within totally Muslim nations, there is still a vast range of belief from liberal to conservative. Pakistan has the complete range, from a free press and independent judiciary, to the most fanatical religious and oppressive conservatives in existence.

and I would point out that Nigeria, not in the Middle East, has huge sectarian conflict between the Muslim north and the Christian south, and both sides are extremely homophobic. On the other hand, the mostly Christian South Africa has legalized same-sex marriage. This is why I suggest the separation of culture from religion.

It can come down to a chicken-and-egg argument. Which came first? Is the interpretation of the religion done through the pre-existing culture? I would say that it is.

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2 dominant religions are stuck in a time warp of the era of their creation. the world has moved msongs Jan 2015 #1
And we're all supposed to kowtow when these creeps are "offended". sibelian Jan 2015 #12
Half the world's population are members of both of those religions, so I don't think the world has sabrina 1 Jan 2015 #32
yup Skittles Jan 2015 #2
you want I yuiyoshida Jan 2015 #4
+1 distantearlywarning Jan 2015 #8
Totes. D'you see me shooting 'em up cos they hang gays? sibelian Jan 2015 #10
amen and hallelujah. PeaceNikki Jan 2015 #3
Islam became a sacred cow among the American left Ykcutnek Jan 2015 #5
Exactly. As a woman, a strong supporter of women, LGBT and a secular society, Republicans are PeaceNikki Jan 2015 #6
Nailed it... SidDithers Jan 2015 #11
well-said, PeaceNikki Skittles Jan 2015 #13
I agree. excellent post! m-lekktor Jan 2015 #14
Boom. REP Jan 2015 #15
Oh, bullshit. Broadbrush anti-religious bigotry rears it's head again. kwassa Jan 2015 #16
Opposing bigotry is not bigotry. PeaceNikki Jan 2015 #17
Labeling two entire religions as bigots IS bigotry. kwassa Jan 2015 #18
Ask me if I care what you think of me. PeaceNikki Jan 2015 #21
The feeling is mutual. The head of my church is a woman. kwassa Jan 2015 #22
OK. PeaceNikki Jan 2015 #23
Which church were you raised in? kwassa Jan 2015 #27
I really don't want to discuss it with you. PeaceNikki Jan 2015 #29
so .... you can dish it out, but can't take it. OK. kwassa Jan 2015 #39
reread the thread l PeaceNikki Jan 2015 #40
You didn't differentiate. kwassa Jan 2015 #42
That's my opinion. You think it's bullshit and I think your framing of it is. PeaceNikki Jan 2015 #43
Consider your statement. I quoted it twice. Address that. kwassa Jan 2015 #48
and yes, I did differentiate. PeaceNikki Jan 2015 #47
What is the difference? kwassa Jan 2015 #49
It's wonderful and awesome of your flavor of Christianity is inclusive and kind. PeaceNikki Jan 2015 #50
Have you read their doctrinal texts? oberliner Jan 2015 #20
The Bible and Koran are filled with many other things as well. kwassa Jan 2015 #24
"I know little about the Koran, but accept what Muslims I know" sibelian Jan 2015 #26
What a bizarre interpretation of what I said. kwassa Jan 2015 #28
This. sibelian Jan 2015 #53
Is this because of religion, or culture? This is vile, of course. kwassa Jan 2015 #55
There's no way to neatly polarise the two sibelian Jan 2015 #56
I disagree in this regard. kwassa Jan 2015 #57
This. sibelian Jan 2015 #54
As long as people who believe that stuff don't try to impose their views on the rest of us oberliner Jan 2015 #30
I agree. kwassa Jan 2015 #31
Did you have any interaction with any Oberlin college students? oberliner Jan 2015 #33
We used to crash the co-op parties. kwassa Jan 2015 #35
Very cool oberliner Jan 2015 #36
well, that's Oberlin. kwassa Jan 2015 #41
Those times were treestar Jan 2015 #59
Sort this out for me, buddy sibelian Jan 2015 #25
I've lived through the history of the gay liberation movement. kwassa Jan 2015 #34
So gay people under Islam just have to suck it up. sibelian Jan 2015 #51
So, change happens if we just sit down and shut up? PeaceNikki Jan 2015 #52
If they sew it, they should wear it. longship Jan 2015 #38
Spell it korrectly. You reep what you sew. Ignore the profitz. kwassa Jan 2015 #44
Well played, my friend. Well played. I stand corrected. nt longship Jan 2015 #45
Perfect statement of where it stands. 1000+ support PeaceNikki. on point Jan 2015 #37
Hear, hear! smirkymonkey Jan 2015 #58
I'll second that. smirkymonkey Jan 2015 #61
You know what I heard at a book club meeting? Manifestor_of_Light Jan 2015 #7
Brother faithophobiac, may the inexistent God bless you. Albertoo Jan 2015 #9
Sick to death of all religion. cwydro Jan 2015 #19
Those who want my respect can respect me and they will get respect in return. Bluenorthwest Jan 2015 #46
+1000 smirkymonkey Jan 2015 #60
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