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meow2u3

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17. Do you want to see nicotine criminalized?

Wed Jan 21, 2015, 08:57 PM

Jan 2015

Do you really want prisons full of vapers?

This paternalistic attitude of "it's bad for you; therefore, it has to be banned or overregulated" creates an atmosphere where adults are treated like children unless they conform to the values of nicotine prohibitionists. Unfortunately, this is a part of liberalism I don't subscribe to.

The least we can do is scrap the double standard of harm reduction where it's OK to practice safer sex or for drug addicts to go to needle exchanges, but when a smoker switches to e-cigs, all of a sudden it's evil and has to be banned. Be consistent, for the love of Pete!

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E-cigarettes can produce more formaldehyde than regular cigarettes, study says [View all] CreekDog Jan 2015 OP

That's a load of junk science bull hockey meow2u3 Jan 2015 #1

What are you saying is the concentration of formaldehyde in human breath? CreekDog Jan 2015 #4

What I'm saying is that this article is propaganda that misleads about the alleged danger of e-cigs meow2u3 Jan 2015 #6

So you really have nothing scientific to offer CreekDog Jan 2015 #12

You want scientific facts? Here they are meow2u3 Jan 2015 #14

there is no science that statement CreekDog Jan 2015 #16

I'd keep an open mind about tobacco harm reduction if I were you meow2u3 Jan 2015 #20

Look at your posts CreekDog Jan 2015 #25

You are right Bozvotros Mar 2015 #52

what about smoking E crack olddots Jan 2015 #2

Mmmmmm. Formaldehyde. KamaAina Jan 2015 #3

Jinro Soju at least used to contain formaldehyde jmowreader Jan 2015 #5

Now you tell me. KamaAina Jan 2015 #45

Two-thirds of your quote is not in the linked article. Ino Jan 2015 #7

Everything I quoted is in the linked article, you have it backwards CreekDog Jan 2015 #10

I expect you don't know this rule... Ino Jan 2015 #47

there is a whole lot of formaldahyde out there olddots Jan 2015 #8

If products like cigarettes and e-cigs are so dangerous bigwillq Jan 2015 #9

does it occur to you that products are banned or regulated after they are found dangerous? CreekDog Jan 2015 #11

Hmm. Last I heard, cigarettes have been found to be dangerous. bigwillq Jan 2015 #13

the article is about e-cigarettes CreekDog Jan 2015 #15

I was talking about e-cigs in my initial post to this thread. bigwillq Jan 2015 #18

they are banned in many cases CreekDog Jan 2015 #19

Ok. Cool. bigwillq Jan 2015 #22

Do you want to see nicotine criminalized? meow2u3 Jan 2015 #17

I think products should be be banned bigwillq Jan 2015 #21

I don't take kindly to being told what I can't put in my body meow2u3 Jan 2015 #23

who is telling you what you can put in your body? CreekDog Jan 2015 #26

There's that issue. bigwillq Jan 2015 #27

What about corn? EvolveOrConvolve Jan 2015 #34

Are you trying to create a straw man because your posts on the science were so bad? CreekDog Jan 2015 #24

The straw man is the alarmist tone of anti-vaping articles meow2u3 Jan 2015 #30

It sounds like a recommendation to use low voltage settings bhikkhu Jan 2015 #28

No, the article directly argues against what you just posted CreekDog Jan 2015 #29

No, I was just reading the article bhikkhu Jan 2015 #32

High voltage should be used only to burn off gunk from coils meow2u3 Jan 2015 #31

The study is suspect for a bunch of reasons EvolveOrConvolve Jan 2015 #33

I live in Detroit, probably more dangerous than smoking e-cigs angstlessk Jan 2015 #40

The Europeans have been studying ecigs much longer Oilwellian Jan 2015 #35

I push the button, blow out the first puff..then lightly inhale the second angstlessk Jan 2015 #39

Our city voted to treat them like cigs, which was great! nt Logical Jan 2015 #36

I'm ferociously allergic to formaldehyde. hunter Jan 2015 #37

I am on e-cigs angstlessk Jan 2015 #38

I went from 36 mg. to 0 mg. in a 7 month span Oilwellian Jan 2015 #41

Based on how I smoked..a little puff and short inhale..I wonder angstlessk Jan 2015 #43

Good for you! Contrary1 Jan 2015 #42

WOW you stayed away for 4 years!!!!! angstlessk Jan 2015 #44

Well, to be honest with you... Contrary1 Jan 2015 #46

I am sorry..what happened to you was NOT an excuse it was a REASON angstlessk Jan 2015 #48

So don't smoke either AndreaCG Jan 2015 #49

the results were yielded by operating the devices improperly. very poor method. Jon82 Mar 2015 #50

seem to be finding your way around very quickly CreekDog Mar 2015 #51

The one study I would like to see but have to wait... Jon82 Mar 2015 #54

Besides, no vaper likes a dry hit meow2u3 Mar 2015 #53