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Showing Original Post only (View all)Abortion is Legal Because So Many Men Are Lying, Thoughtless, Irresponsible Dicks. [View all]
https://bluntandcranky.wordpress.com/2012/08/20/abortion-is-legal-because-so-many-men-are-lying-thoughtless-irresponsible-dicks/A reminder on this anniversary of Roe v. Wade:
When the U.S. Supreme Court legalized abortion, they did not rule on the morality, ethics, religious value or rightness/wrongness of abortion: in fact, the ruling wasnt entirely about abortion at all. Lets all take a moment to put our heads back together, since many of yours have likely just exploded.
All crania super-glued back together now? Excellent. Lots of folks think of a womans right to choose as it has been defined and discussed by TV preachers and glory-hound politicians, many of whom know nothing about the actual ruling (or pretend not to): they frame it as a Godless, liberal, genocidal baby-killing spree imposed upon the Godly American majority by a Satanic Supreme Court, or some similar load of twaddle.
In reality, the ruling hinged upon something far more basic: men cannot get pregnant, and there is no Constitutional way to force them to be accountable towards the women they impregnate or the children they help to create. As the late-night infomercial boyos like to say, its just that simple.
What the Supremes found was this: lots of men lie to women in order to get laid. Wow, whod a thunk that? And if they get a woman pregnant, they likewise lie about taking care of the woman and child (or just take off). This leaves the woman completely and totally responsible for the consequences of an act that two people consented to (rape and other sex crimes that result in pregnancy are for another post), because the baby is inside her and she pretty much has to deal with that reality. Meanwhile the man can either be responsible, or not.
In nature, men can choose whether or not to deal with a pregnancy they help create, and women cannot (thats the real meaning behind pro-choice). Simply put: Nature has created an inequality when it comes to pregnancy. The Supreme Court recognized this, and THAT is where Roe V. Wade came from. Giving women the same amount of choice as men. Equality, in other words. You know, that teenytiny little concept that our whole nation was founded upon? Yeah, that equality.
Yes, I hear you say, we have court-ordered child support: surely that addresses the situation? It might help, if there were any way to guarantee such payments: in reality, many men evade such court orders or simply dont pay up when they are ordered to. Nor does child support cover all of the burdens of single parenthood.
Mr. Blunt and Cranky has imagined lots of fun ways to make men deal with their sexual behavior: surgical insertion of bowling balls into their intestines so that they can feel a bit of the pregnancy experience; forced labor on chain-gangs for 18 years with all proceeds going to the mother and child; all sorts of amusing notions, none of which, alas, are the least bit constitutional.
(One should notice that almost none of the recent restrictive state and local laws regarding abortion say Thing One about making men deal with their share of responsibility. These laws take away the rights of women while doing nothing to address the fundamental inequity that the Supreme Court sought to rectify. Small wonder, since most of these bills were written by male politicians, who are evidently lying, thoughtless, irresponsible dicks, taking care of themselves and their like-minded brethren.)
When and if a way can be found to make 100 percent of men as 100 percent responsible as women for the children they create, perhaps Roe V Wade might no longer be necessary. Until then, while so many men remain a**holes about sex and reproduction, it is indispensable to the life, liberty and pursuit of happiness of women (remember them? Theyre the majority of Americans).
PS: Heres what 100% prohibition of abortion looks like: http://www.cnn.com/2012/08/18/world/americas/dominican-republic-abortion/index.html
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Abortion is Legal Because So Many Men Are Lying, Thoughtless, Irresponsible Dicks. [View all]
riqster
Jan 2015
OP
I find this a weird approach and one that doesn't really match up with reality.
Brickbat
Jan 2015
#2
I agree with your subject line. So if it's not about men, why does OP make it about men? nt
stevenleser
Jan 2015
#27
I was told after my second child that neither I nor my child would survive another pregnancy.
JDPriestly
Jan 2015
#61
The message this article gives is that if men would only behave, we wouldn't have to regulate their
Brickbat
Jan 2015
#10
No legal standing in the woman's decision, no responsibility for their sperm or their child. Righto.
appalachiablue
Jan 2015
#76
It's such a difficult but important part of our lives, things seem to change then revert like now.
appalachiablue
Jan 2015
#128
Sometimes even happily married heterosexual women get pregnant when they don't want to be.
Brickbat
Jan 2015
#5
You can't have it both ways. It's not about men, it's about a woman's choice regardless. nt
stevenleser
Jan 2015
#28
That's just as good an argument for men having say over what pregnant women should do.
Brickbat
Jan 2015
#32
I concur. This article is wrong, even if it's heart may be in the right place. On the literal level,
KingCharlemagne
Jan 2015
#18
I think you may be partly correct but some people, both Men and Women simply don't want,,,
BlueJazz
Jan 2015
#16
I know many men who feel the same. Especially married ones, mostly middle aged with wives and
appalachiablue
Jan 2015
#67
Personally, I equate cheating on your spouse as one of the most unforgivable things ...
BlueJazz
Jan 2015
#78
Your views about fidelity are honorable and should be more common. The principled, old school boss
appalachiablue
Jan 2015
#99
Not having sex with somebody is still the only 100% foolproof method of contraception
mythology
Jan 2015
#51
True. Unfortunately abstinence has been proved not to work for the majority.
PatrickforO
Jan 2015
#55
Sure, like how women can put aspirin between their legs. Or whip up some exotic 'herbal' stuff
appalachiablue
Jan 2015
#97
Imagine that. Too many people who disagree with your opinion now how could that be?
kcr
Jan 2015
#87
"Abortion is Legal Because So Many Men Are Lying, Thoughtless, Irresponsible Dicks"...
sendero
Jan 2015
#94
Here and I thought it was about a right to privacy in the Constitution.
Spitfire of ATJ
Jan 2015
#37
I heard once that Thurgood Marshall had a bullet fired into his home afterwards....
Spitfire of ATJ
Jan 2015
#112
I hope I live to see real identification and research of narcissist and sociopath personalities
appalachiablue
Jan 2015
#96
K&R. But the OP does not begin to deal with the huge problem of unwanted or unhealthy
JDPriestly
Jan 2015
#59
Speaking as a male, I can tell when a "so many men do xyz" statement doesn't apply to me.
riqster
Jan 2015
#75
You mean the non-custodial parents wages and that suport is given to the custodial parent, correct?
kelly1mm
Jan 2015
#129
Damn, I thought it was because medical decisions are a private matter between patients and doctors
TheKentuckian
Jan 2015
#82
Sometimes women have abortions simply because they don't want to have a baby.
Crunchy Frog
Jan 2015
#119
Nevertheless I find both the title and discussion offensive because of generailizations
jimlup
Jan 2015
#125
Okay, should we thank men for being "lying, thoughtless, irresponsible dicks"? n/t
hughee99
Jan 2015
#121