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89. He was doing his job. Doesn't make him a hero or a villain. What is important is what you brought

Sun Jan 25, 2015, 02:46 AM

Jan 2015

up. what were we doing there in the first place.

The whole thing was based on a lie, and over a million people were killed because of that lie, and that action helped destabilize the whole region.

The media and everyone it seems is obsessed with Kyle, but they do not seem to be concerned in the slightest about the million people that were killed because of our actions.

The American way of rationalization says everything about us as a country, and it isn't very nice

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'American Sniper' widow speechless after rifle raffle [View all] glasshouses Jan 2015 OP

May God allow his soul to rest in peace and comfort his family in their loss Arcadiasix Jan 2015 #1

He seems to have been something of a dick, and asswipe, sick in the head. NYC_SKP Jan 2015 #3

I didn't know who this guy was - LiberalElite Jan 2015 #131

Ditto to all the Americans he killed here in the US and those abroad lunasun Jan 2015 #6

The scum bragged that he murdered random Katrina victims. MohRokTah Jan 2015 #13

Yeah, that was a great big ole lie. Dude liked to tell tales. N/t Adrahil Jan 2015 #142

amen glasshouses Jan 2015 #7

And the souls of all those whose lives he took, including the child he claimed to have wavered over, sabrina 1 Jan 2015 #9

didnt know there was such a sick sociopathic group called americansnipers.org Ramses Jan 2015 #10

Why people make this scum out to be a hero is beyond me. eom MohRokTah Jan 2015 #2

Because he's one of The Troops and All Troops Are Heroes jmowreader Jan 2015 #4

He's the lowest scummiest scum of scum. MohRokTah Jan 2015 #5

Not a hero just a SEAL sniper doing his job well , 4 tours and 200 or so kills glasshouses Jan 2015 #8

'The enemy' polly7 Jan 2015 #11

Scum murderer. eom MohRokTah Jan 2015 #12

Your opinion, many others have a differing opinion. eom. GGJohn Jan 2015 #14

HE bragged about murdering innocent KAtrina victims in New ORleans MohRokTah Jan 2015 #15

Once again, your opinion, many others have a differing opinion. GGJohn Jan 2015 #17

Then he was a piece of shit murderous scum MohRokTah Jan 2015 #19

Again, that's strictly your opinion, others have a differing opinion. eom. GGJohn Jan 2015 #20

Again, he made the claim. That alone makes him lower scum than anybody in Al Queda MohRokTah Jan 2015 #22

Those Americans who's lives he saved would disagree with you? eom. GGJohn Jan 2015 #23

Those Americans whose lives he took would disagree with you. eom MohRokTah Jan 2015 #24

What American lives? eom. GGJohn Jan 2015 #25

The at least 30 lives he admits he took in New ORleans. eom MohRokTah Jan 2015 #27

Is there any actual proof that he actually did? eom. GGJohn Jan 2015 #29

So you are saying this scum is a lying piece of shit? eom MohRokTah Jan 2015 #30

I never said he wasn't, but I ask again, GGJohn Jan 2015 #31

I am taking him at his word. MohRokTah Jan 2015 #33

So you take him at his word while at the same time GGJohn Jan 2015 #35

Are you capable of reading English? MohRokTah Jan 2015 #37

Give it up, they are going to stay on-script no matter what you say n/t arcane1 Jan 2015 #80

there is not a single doubt in my mind that he did shoot people in new orleans TimeToEvolve Jan 2015 #143

When someone confesses to something that heinous, I'm inclined to believe them. Electric Monk Jan 2015 #34

I'm not siding with anyone here, GGJohn Jan 2015 #38

Just asking questions. MohRokTah Jan 2015 #44

Ok. GGJohn Jan 2015 #45

Truth hurts, eh? eom MohRokTah Jan 2015 #49

Truth? GGJohn Jan 2015 #54

Universal truth MohRokTah Jan 2015 #56

Never said he was or wasn't. GGJohn Jan 2015 #58

Yes, you did eom MohRokTah Jan 2015 #61

Well then surely you can post the link. Right? eom GGJohn Jan 2015 #64

Read the thread. eom MohRokTah Jan 2015 #65

IOW, you can't post the link because there is no truth to what you claim. GGJohn Jan 2015 #67

IOW you are incapable of reading the thread. eom MohRokTah Jan 2015 #70

I read the whole thread looking for my post praising him, GGJohn Jan 2015 #75

IOW you are incapable of reading the thread. eom MohRokTah Jan 2015 #77

Just as I thought, you can't produce the post, so you keep on repeating yourself. GGJohn Jan 2015 #79

Read the thread. eom MohRokTah Jan 2015 #69

Read post #67. eom. GGJohn Jan 2015 #72

Read the thread. eom MohRokTah Jan 2015 #73

You're supporting phil89 Jan 2015 #128

Bullfuckingshit. GGJohn Jan 2015 #132

Proofs right here... MrMickeysMom Jan 2015 #91

So, again, there's no proof that he actually shot people during the Katrina disaster. eom. GGJohn Jan 2015 #104

Only if you can't read... MrMickeysMom Jan 2015 #111

Ok, so post the proof that he actually did shoot and kill people during Katrina. GGJohn Jan 2015 #112

Just did... MrMickeysMom Jan 2015 #114

How do you ask a dead man? GGJohn Jan 2015 #115

How do you ask a man's witnesses? MrMickeysMom Jan 2015 #118

What witnesses? GGJohn Jan 2015 #120

We all know? GGJohn Jan 2015 #122

Sounds very 3erd hand to me... EX500rider Jan 2015 #116

Are his buddies accountable for what they witnessed in this confession? MrMickeysMom Jan 2015 #117

Accountable for what? eom. GGJohn Jan 2015 #121

Sounds less like a confession and more like tall tales we tell when drunk to me. EX500rider Jan 2015 #124

I wouldn't know... MrMickeysMom Jan 2015 #133

He either did it or he was a liar...which is it? workinclasszero Jan 2015 #127

He was a liar. GGJohn Jan 2015 #134

Well now thats its established that he was a liar workinclasszero Jan 2015 #137

Agree with everything you said. eom. GGJohn Jan 2015 #138

No doubt, many half-wits and idiots will congratulate him for alleging to kill American civilians... LanternWaste Jan 2015 #146

He made the claim. That makes him a murderous POS eom MohRokTah Jan 2015 #21

Proven??? Hasn't been proven...like we should even consider that he DID shoot Katrina victims???? a kennedy Jan 2015 #51

Ok. eom GGJohn Jan 2015 #53

just like the rightwing and global warming - they have different opinions as well , all of them belzabubba333 Jan 2015 #102

I usually agree with you john cwydro Jan 2015 #105

Thanks. GGJohn Jan 2015 #106

Oh I agree with you there cwydro Jan 2015 #107

No doubt about that. GGJohn Jan 2015 #108

That's what hits me wrong about this guy. cwydro Jan 2015 #126

Also not so� many more think he's a piece of scum... MrMickeysMom Jan 2015 #92

Some opinions are more valuable than others tkmorris Jan 2015 #93

What about all the Americans he killed acting as judge jury and executioner? lunasun Jan 2015 #16

What Americans? eom. GGJohn Jan 2015 #18

In both NOLA & TX lunasun Jan 2015 #26

He allegedly claimed he did, GGJohn Jan 2015 #28

So you are saying either he is a liar or a murder. MohRokTah Jan 2015 #36

I'm not calling him a hero, GGJohn Jan 2015 #39

And I am saying American's whose live he took for no reason would disagree with you. eom MohRokTah Jan 2015 #41

You still haven't posted any proof that he actually did kill Americans. eom. GGJohn Jan 2015 #42

HE SAID HE MURDERED AT LEAST 30 AMERICANS! MohRokTah Jan 2015 #43

IOW, you have no proof that he actually did what he claimed? eom GGJohn Jan 2015 #47

IOW you wil praise somebody who is either a liar or a murder. eom MohRokTah Jan 2015 #55

Well, if I have praised him, GGJohn Jan 2015 #57

You praised the POS in this thread. eom MohRokTah Jan 2015 #60

Well then surely you can post the link. Right? eom. GGJohn Jan 2015 #62

He bragged that he shot jen63 Jan 2015 #144

Well he related the one story to his biographer Mooney. RU calling your hero a liar to his own lunasun Jan 2015 #50

He may have said he did, but is there any actual proof that he did? GGJohn Jan 2015 #52

Prove he didn't. Ed Suspicious Jan 2015 #68

There's no proof that he did or didn't. eom. GGJohn Jan 2015 #78

Well post 35 is where I got it from . If you believe he is a liar then what makes you lunasun Jan 2015 #74

I don't know if he did or didn't take any American lives here in the States, GGJohn Jan 2015 #83

Gosh darn it, why don't you know LOL! Politicalboi Jan 2015 #135

LOL. GGJohn Jan 2015 #136

So the child he killed wasn't innocent? And we had no enemies in Iraq. He killed innocent people sabrina 1 Jan 2015 #40

That child had an RPG and was about to throw it at Marines Reter Jan 2015 #46

We were in that child's country. If any foreign invaders come to this country I guess you would sabrina 1 Jan 2015 #63

The child was about to throw it at an invading army. arcane1 Jan 2015 #81

If a foreign force invaded my country, I would do everything I could to GGJohn Jan 2015 #87

Yes, you MIGHT lose your life to enemy action tkmorris Jan 2015 #95

No, I wouldn't say that. eom. GGJohn Jan 2015 #103

That was the movie version atreides1 Jan 2015 #101

He was doing his job. Doesn't make him a hero or a villain. What is important is what you brought still_one Jan 2015 #89

I believe I did point out that we were the bad guys there. Bad guys doing their jobs are villains, sabrina 1 Jan 2015 #96

yes you did. No one "forced" anyone to be part of the illegal Iraq war since there was no draft, still_one Jan 2015 #109

And if he were alive, he might punch you for calling him a Marine Reter Jan 2015 #48

I had Marine Scout sniper stuck in my head for some reason when writing that glasshouses Jan 2015 #76

Hooyah jen63 Jan 2015 #145

GAG ME WITH A SPOON ND-Dem Jan 2015 #59

He was a sailor, not a marine. braddy Jan 2015 #66

Likely exaggerated at least. alarimer Jan 2015 #141

I wasn't aware they were in need. pa28 Jan 2015 #32

Don't be fooled if u hear it went to vet charities lunasun Jan 2015 #82

A-ha. Thanks for providing some background to the story. n/t pa28 Jan 2015 #86

This was a very conservative venue that outed them keeping the $for themselves lunasun Jan 2015 #90

I'm hoping she uses this for the foundation she started to help military wives who lost loved ones glasshouses Jan 2015 #85

"Sarah Palin and American Sniper Widow Taya Kyle Team Up for Charity Event" PoliticAverse Jan 2015 #71

I think it is ironic that no one asks anymore why we invaded Iraq in the first place? It sure still_one Jan 2015 #84

Funny how we get away from that cogent point, isn't it? MrMickeysMom Jan 2015 #94

Most important post in this thread and nobody notices... NoJusticeNoPeace Jan 2015 #129

Yuck. A state sanctioned serial killer is glorified in film, and the crowds go WILD!!! underahedgerow Jan 2015 #88

The clever ones will claim they are not glorifying the guy while pointing out how many Americans NoJusticeNoPeace Jan 2015 #130

so sick of this ass MFM008 Jan 2015 #97

racist, deranged murderer, killed by another deranged murderer mwrguy Jan 2015 #98

Don't you just love the symbol/logo for this right wing organization. Hoyt Jan 2015 #99

these suckers of Satan's cock have absolutely no respect for LIFE whatsoever. TimeToEvolve Jan 2015 #140

Why is she wearing camo? GeorgeGist Jan 2015 #100

So she doesn't get shot by a sniper? SwankyXomb Jan 2015 #110

She's a camosexual? Those Duck people are her designers? Tom Ripley Jan 2015 #123

This clarifies any confusion I may have had as to her pov wrt to her husband's psychotic 2banon Jan 2015 #113

why wouldn't they donate the money to a veteran's group? frylock Jan 2015 #119

Kyle is either a liar or a psycho serial killer of AMERICANS! workinclasszero Jan 2015 #125

The fact that there's even a public debate about portraying Kyle as a hero is what's interesting Marr Jan 2015 #139