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jeff47

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65. Except the reasons you cite are wrong.

Thu Jan 29, 2015, 03:25 PM

Jan 2015

Health/medical and religious reasons are a tiny minority. They've always been present. And their numbers are small enough that herd immunity still works, and protects them.

Cost reasons are handled by the vaccines being free, thanks to the ACA, SCHIP and similar programs.

And even if your child is healthy and has been vaccinated, you still have to worry about the anti-vaxxers. Vaccines have failure rates. The failure rate of the measles part of the MMR is about 2%. Herd immunity normally covers that 2% too, but anti-vaxxers have destroyed herd immunity.

You could get your child every vaccine they are supposed to have, and your kid can still get sick thanks to anti-vaxxers.

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California Father Asks School To Bar Unvaccinated Children [View all] RandySF Jan 2015 OP

How on earth is this not already policy there? NuclearDem Jan 2015 #1

I don't know. RandySF Jan 2015 #2

In our school district xmas74 Jan 2015 #3

Religion doesn't know shit about vaccines. AtheistCrusader Jan 2015 #13

There's a sect of Christianity that forbids all medical care. jeff47 Jan 2015 #56

Self-solving problem. AtheistCrusader Jan 2015 #77

No, they live long enough to reproduce. (nt) jeff47 Jan 2015 #78

3% of children immunized never develop resistance GreatGazoo Jan 2015 #67

This may be some good reading for you: NuclearDem Jan 2015 #72

Doesn't answer my question to you which is: GreatGazoo Jan 2015 #74

Yes it does. NuclearDem Jan 2015 #75

That WAS the policy in California procon Jan 2015 #4

In LA, way back when. @e came from Europe where my children were vaccinated. JDPriestly Jan 2015 #12

It's time to clamp down. Let the freaks keep their kids home. Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2015 #5

I totally agree gopiscrap Jan 2015 #16

Anti-vaxers are the stupidest people on the planet Blecht Jan 2015 #6

No, that honor belongs to the people who are members of the tea/republican cstanleytech Jan 2015 #11

Marin County = rich, liberal. In 2012 it went 74% for Obama. ND-Dem Jan 2015 #18

I really like Marin. Especially in the fall and upaloopa Jan 2015 #76

yeah, those rich people in marin county are really stupid and uneducated. ND-Dem Jan 2015 #17

Rich does not equal smart Blecht Jan 2015 #19

It's associated with schooling, however. Typically the rich have more higher education than the ND-Dem Jan 2015 #20

And if intelligence tests actually measured intelligence, you might have a point. jeff47 Jan 2015 #22

high scores on intelligence tests, like high income, is associated with more education though. ND-Dem Jan 2015 #28

But it doesn't mean "smart" Jakes Progress Jan 2015 #31

More letters after one's name does not mean they're smarter. jeff47 Jan 2015 #39

The fact that they are anti-vaxxers makes them uneducated troglodytes/scientific illiterates joeglow3 Jan 2015 #44

The fact that they are "anti-vaxxers" by definition makes them stupid Blecht Jan 2015 #29

On THIS topic? gcomeau Jan 2015 #32

Not stupid and uneducated, mendacious and unethical. seldomseensmith Jan 2015 #64

You appear unaware of the stiff competition in that award category. gcomeau Jan 2015 #26

Let's just call it a multi-way tie :-) nt Blecht Jan 2015 #30

The Hobby Lobby case made these bullshit conscience exemptions possible bluestateguy Jan 2015 #7

This was the case way before Hobby Lobby XemaSab Jan 2015 #9

There are several cases in Fresno now as well. onecaliberal Jan 2015 #8

Sounds good to me. Starry Messenger Jan 2015 #10

I totally agree with that poor father. SunSeeker Jan 2015 #14

This is a dire situation for that child. Got a couple of questions: freshwest Jan 2015 #15

No. jeff47 Jan 2015 #23

Maybe put the masks on the kids who aren't vaccinated? mythology Jan 2015 #51

Vaccines have failure rates. jeff47 Jan 2015 #57

This message was self-deleted by its author uppityperson Jan 2015 #79

Peanut butter? markbark Jan 2015 #21

K/R Orrex Jan 2015 #24

I'm not allowed to board my dog without a record of her current vaccinations. MoonRiver Jan 2015 #25

Message auto-removed Name removed Jan 2015 #58

Or put the whole family in stockades and have sick people Ykcutnek Jan 2015 #27

I do sincerely hope you're kidding with this. NuclearDem Jan 2015 #37

I am from Bay Area marlakay Jan 2015 #33

Why not just keep the kid home. dilby Jan 2015 #34

That would be safest. Too many variables that this won't solve. freshwest Jan 2015 #38

Yeah, I would just keep the kid home till he can be vaccinated. dilby Jan 2015 #43

Requires a parent who can stay home with the kid. Also known as "money". jeff47 Jan 2015 #40

They figured it out for the first 5 years of his life. dilby Jan 2015 #42

And? jeff47 Jan 2015 #46

Article says kid can't get vaccinated for a couple months. dilby Jan 2015 #48

A couple months at the earliest. He may never get vaccinated. (nt) jeff47 Jan 2015 #49

If he never gets vaccinated it's because his parents are drinking the same coolaid dilby Jan 2015 #52

He may not get his immune system back. jeff47 Jan 2015 #54

So his doctor is lying by saying he can get it in a couple months? dilby Jan 2015 #60

His doctor is saying he may get it in a couple months, but that will depend on test results. jeff47 Jan 2015 #61

The anti-vaxxers are not going away, ever. dilby Jan 2015 #63

Except the reasons you cite are wrong. jeff47 Jan 2015 #65

Then my kid gets sick. dilby Jan 2015 #66

And if they die, you gonna still have better things to do? jeff47 Jan 2015 #68

That was my first thought. Just home-school him until he's able to take the shots. BlueJazz Jan 2015 #41

I am guessing dad has a crusade now. dilby Jan 2015 #45

He may never be able to take the shots. jeff47 Jan 2015 #47

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His child should not be in school. With all due respect, I believe you and many others forget that.. BlueJazz Jan 2015 #53

Those invaders are also required to be vaccinated jeff47 Jan 2015 #55

You're certainly welcome to think that. Anti-vaxxers are the uninformed and the father wants.. BlueJazz Jan 2015 #69

Again, those shots are required by all those others. jeff47 Jan 2015 #70

jeff47 Please quit saying "Teachers are required to be vaccinated" I KNOW that. BlueJazz Jan 2015 #73

It isn't his family's fault a bunch of idiots refuse to vaccinate their kids. NuclearDem Jan 2015 #62

"The only people that should be inconvenienced by this are the anti-vaxx idiots" BlueJazz Jan 2015 #71

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Come on LG, you can do better than NattieNews. NuclearDem Jan 2015 #36

We ran a summer camp last summer and asked the question. redstatebluegirl Jan 2015 #59

how embarrassing is that. these are liberal areas JI7 Jan 2015 #80