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pampango

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Fri Jan 30, 2015, 01:32 PM Jan 2015

In Sweden you get your child vaccinated to protect your community, not just your child. [View all]

More Americans aren't getting the vaccination that provides coverage for measles, mumps and German measles, also known as rubella. In some areas of California, 13 percent of young children haven't been immunized. Compare that with a place like Sweden, where vaccination coverage is estimated to include all but 5 percent of the entire population. That's because Swedes show up for all sorts of optional immunizations in droves, providing the sort of "herd immunity" that Americans can only envy.

Elizabeth Bruenig, a staff writer at The New Republic, says Swedes tend to approach vaccination campaigns very differently than Americans do. "When I think about my flu shot every year, and whether or not I really want to go through getting the needle in the arm, I'm generally thinking about my own health: Do I want to sick this year?" Bruenig says. "In Sweden, it's very common to think of vaccines as something that you do because you're going to be in contact with people who are vulnerable to illness. It's a way of protecting them."

Those vulnerable groups include the elderly, children who are too young to be vaccinated and the immuno-compromised such as people going through chemo-therapy, or those with HIV and AIDS. Others turn out to be at risk because the measles vaccine isn't 100 percent effective for everyone who receives it.

When Swedish parents think about getting their children immunized, they act because "it's something that we do where we all use our bodies sort of as human shields for people whose bodies just don't have the capacity to be vaccinated or to withstand these diseases."

http://www.pri.org/stories/2015-01-29/what-sweden-can-teach-america-about-measles-vaccinations

For Americans a flu shot is usually done to benefit oneself - to avoid getting the flu yourself. For Swedes is as much to protect those who cannot protect themselves - "the elderly, children who are too young to be vaccinated and the immuno-compromised such as people going through chemo-therapy, or those with HIV and AIDS."

I get a flu shot every year but, I have to admit, I am doing it for myself. Kind of being a typical American, I guess.

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Interesting malthaussen Jan 2015 #1
Sweden has a better educational system, so not so many scientifically ignorant masses FLPanhandle Jan 2015 #2
Except the anti-vaxxers think they are scientifically enlighted. dilby Jan 2015 #3
Not much of a community in the US The2ndWheel Jan 2015 #4
In 1962, immunization was a community affair. no_hypocrisy Jan 2015 #6
I remember that. Aristus Jan 2015 #12
SOCIAL ... ism. GeorgeGist Jan 2015 #5
*gasp* Oh noes! RedCappedBandit Jan 2015 #7
And yet The Netherlands and Canada both have low vaccine rates causing outbreaks that make the US Bluenorthwest Jan 2015 #8
I never get a flu shot. Yea, American's are more individualistic and independent dissentient Jan 2015 #9
Americans don't care about the public good anymore AZ Progressive Jan 2015 #10
In Sweden the shadow government will not use public vaccinations for nefarious purposes. kickysnana Jan 2015 #11
Sweden? Have you compared the Swedish and American immunization schedules? Check it out. proverbialwisdom Jan 2015 #13
There are new vaccines that have been developed BrotherIvan Jan 2015 #15
The valid point being missed is that "...even pro-vaccine parents have a threshold of compliance." proverbialwisdom Jan 2015 #16
Mortality rates have a lot more causes than preventable diseases. Brickbat Jan 2015 #17
Yes, of course. Still, the chart counters a false meme. (nt) proverbialwisdom Jan 2015 #18
I'm no longer allowed to respond to you on the hidden thread (sorry it wasn't me :) ) but TrollBuster9090 Feb 2015 #19
Risky, the best source I found for this esoteric info (NVIC) triggered an 'automatic' hide once. proverbialwisdom Feb 2015 #20
Again, you're quoting from an anti-vaccine website. Why not just link me to the CDC website where TrollBuster9090 Feb 2015 #21
I suspect NVIC is the more up-to-date source. To the best of my knowledge, cool searchable CDC site proverbialwisdom Feb 2015 #22
Thanks. It's a mess. It'll take me some time to confirm or refute. TrollBuster9090 Feb 2015 #23
Children had 24 doses birth-18 yrs in 80s; now same # is mandated for childcare eligibility (Offit). proverbialwisdom Feb 2015 #24
Twitter links. proverbialwisdom Feb 2015 #25
This message was self-deleted by its author proverbialwisdom Jan 2015 #14
We don't seem to teach citizen responsibility anymore. aquart Feb 2015 #26
Wrong framing, IMO. proverbialwisdom Feb 2015 #28
Bloomberg Businessweek mentioned Sweden in a recent article on parental leave. proverbialwisdom Feb 2015 #27
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