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Bluenorthwest

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8. And yet The Netherlands and Canada both have low vaccine rates causing outbreaks that make the US
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 03:16 PM
Jan 2015

look good.
Canada, last year:
"It's an inescapable reality: As long as measles is infecting children in other parts of the world, Canada is going to have occasional outbreaks. The same is true in the United States, but public health officials there typically have managed to more quickly extinguish spread of the virus when it comes from abroad.

It's leaving some experts on this side of the border wondering: Why does Canada have such large measles outbreaks?
There have been at least 375 cases in the ongoing outbreak in British Columbia's Fraser Valley. An outbreak in Quebec in 2011 racked up a whopping 725 confirmed cases, following on a 2007 outbreak of 94 cases in that province. The Vancouver Olympics, which brought people to the city from around the world, touched off an outbreak of roughly 80 cases in B.C. in early 2010."
http://www.cbc.ca/news/health/measles-outbreaks-in-canada-outsize-u-s-1.2605628

Dutch 'Bible Belt' outbreaks:

"In 1999/2000, a measles epidemic struck the Bible belt and neighbouring regions, totalling just under 3300 cases, of which 94% were entirely unvaccinated, and only one patient had had both MMRs. 16% had complications, over 150 were hospitalised, and 3 patients died. Importantly No association was observed between preexisting illness and either reason for admission (P = 0.5) or residual symptoms at discharge (P = 0.5) contradicting the notion that measles are a generally "harmless" disease in "healthy" children.

More recently, in 2004/5, rubella (the "r" in the MMR) swept through in the Bible belt, also spreading to Canada. The consequences were devastating:

In The Netherlands and Canada, 387 and 309 rubella cases were reported, respectively. Of these, 97% were in unvaccinated individuals of orthodox protestant denomination. Reported consequences of rubella in pregnancy were 2 fetal deaths and 14 infants with congenital infection. Of the latter, 11 had clinical defects including deafness in all but eye defects in none. "
http://justthevax.blogspot.com/2013/06/meanwhile-measles-break-out-in-dutch.html


Interesting stuffs....

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Interesting malthaussen Jan 2015 #1
Sweden has a better educational system, so not so many scientifically ignorant masses FLPanhandle Jan 2015 #2
Except the anti-vaxxers think they are scientifically enlighted. dilby Jan 2015 #3
Not much of a community in the US The2ndWheel Jan 2015 #4
In 1962, immunization was a community affair. no_hypocrisy Jan 2015 #6
I remember that. Aristus Jan 2015 #12
SOCIAL ... ism. GeorgeGist Jan 2015 #5
*gasp* Oh noes! RedCappedBandit Jan 2015 #7
And yet The Netherlands and Canada both have low vaccine rates causing outbreaks that make the US Bluenorthwest Jan 2015 #8
I never get a flu shot. Yea, American's are more individualistic and independent dissentient Jan 2015 #9
Americans don't care about the public good anymore AZ Progressive Jan 2015 #10
In Sweden the shadow government will not use public vaccinations for nefarious purposes. kickysnana Jan 2015 #11
Sweden? Have you compared the Swedish and American immunization schedules? Check it out. proverbialwisdom Jan 2015 #13
There are new vaccines that have been developed BrotherIvan Jan 2015 #15
The valid point being missed is that "...even pro-vaccine parents have a threshold of compliance." proverbialwisdom Jan 2015 #16
Mortality rates have a lot more causes than preventable diseases. Brickbat Jan 2015 #17
Yes, of course. Still, the chart counters a false meme. (nt) proverbialwisdom Jan 2015 #18
I'm no longer allowed to respond to you on the hidden thread (sorry it wasn't me :) ) but TrollBuster9090 Feb 2015 #19
Risky, the best source I found for this esoteric info (NVIC) triggered an 'automatic' hide once. proverbialwisdom Feb 2015 #20
Again, you're quoting from an anti-vaccine website. Why not just link me to the CDC website where TrollBuster9090 Feb 2015 #21
I suspect NVIC is the more up-to-date source. To the best of my knowledge, cool searchable CDC site proverbialwisdom Feb 2015 #22
Thanks. It's a mess. It'll take me some time to confirm or refute. TrollBuster9090 Feb 2015 #23
Children had 24 doses birth-18 yrs in 80s; now same # is mandated for childcare eligibility (Offit). proverbialwisdom Feb 2015 #24
Twitter links. proverbialwisdom Feb 2015 #25
This message was self-deleted by its author proverbialwisdom Jan 2015 #14
We don't seem to teach citizen responsibility anymore. aquart Feb 2015 #26
Wrong framing, IMO. proverbialwisdom Feb 2015 #28
Bloomberg Businessweek mentioned Sweden in a recent article on parental leave. proverbialwisdom Feb 2015 #27
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