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In reply to the discussion: Can you put down your pitchfork long enough to discuss the root causes of the anti-vax problem? [View all]ann---
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Can you put down your pitchfork long enough to discuss the root causes of the anti-vax problem? [View all]
whereisjustice
Feb 2015
OP
you left out: they do not want to see there is a problem, till they find a scapegoat
bettyellen
Feb 2015
#1
sadly, because of this impulse to believe it is 100% an outside cause, few advocate
bettyellen
Feb 2015
#223
It's not a huge step from "eject them from society" to "concentration camps"
Fumesucker
Feb 2015
#130
With right wing comments like that it is hard to tell who is more Coo Coo For Cocoa Puffs.
GoneFishin
Feb 2015
#209
#11 - piss-poor science education. 70% of Americans believe that angels actually exist. Q.E.D. - nt
KingCharlemagne
Feb 2015
#5
I had to check the comments before posting because I knew someone else would have
Erich Bloodaxe BSN
Feb 2015
#169
Your response would make a fine OP and allow you to elaborate somewhat on its themes. There's
KingCharlemagne
Feb 2015
#183
Haven't read it, but it sounds like it indeed is running along the same lines of thought.
Erich Bloodaxe BSN
Feb 2015
#190
K&R. Dumbing down of the population has succeeded. We can see icecaps and glaciers melting and still
Overseas
Feb 2015
#268
Thank you, recommended. It is not like all this suspicion is coming from a vacuum
dissentient
Feb 2015
#6
Since anti-vaxxers are an asymetric political group, you're right about politicans.
MohRokTah
Feb 2015
#23
So the pro-vaxers want to 'remove those who don't agree with them from society'! Wow. That
sabrina 1
Feb 2015
#53
Are you in the wrong thread or something? My response was to a PRO-VAXER who wants to eliminate
sabrina 1
Feb 2015
#236
Putin is Big Pharma, I believe he is proposing elimination of anyone who disagrees with his ways
snooper2
Feb 2015
#237
So you agree then with the Pro Vaxer I responded to who proposes the elimination of those who dare
sabrina 1
Feb 2015
#239
Thank you, and since I've never voiced an opinion about Putin, and don't know this person btw, it
sabrina 1
Feb 2015
#292
I am repelled. But not about vaccines, I am well informed on the subject, as much as anyone can be.
sabrina 1
Feb 2015
#281
Love that quote, it is absolutely true. It doesn't bother me at all, as FDR said, 'I welcome their
sabrina 1
Feb 2015
#287
If you're joining the anti-vaxxers, you don't give a shit about human lives.
NuclearDem
Feb 2015
#265
I feel that way about people who refuse to see the problems with the Dem Party and its leaders,
cui bono
Feb 2015
#260
I'm not anti-vax, but you'll just alienate anti-vaxers without acknowledging where
whereisjustice
Feb 2015
#25
Actually considering what anti-vaxxers have to say has made the problem WORSE.
MohRokTah
Feb 2015
#156
America is not a nation with a sweet, benevolent government. There is a lot of distrust.
Bonobo
Feb 2015
#10
Yelling "burn the witch" really isn't going to get more people vaccinated, that's for sure
whereisjustice
Feb 2015
#30
But you are not thinking of the differential effect - the important part is making sure
whereisjustice
Feb 2015
#271
lol - like someone coming back from Africa, due to Ebola risk? hahahahahahah
whereisjustice
Feb 2015
#35
Anti-intellectualism is the root cause anti-vaxxers, mixed with more than a modicum of ignorance.
Agnosticsherbet
Feb 2015
#20
Sorry, you are wrong: dont-call-them-dumb-experts-fighting-anti-vaccine-movement
whereisjustice
Feb 2015
#267
The only place anyone is going to tell you have blood on your hands for being rational, appears to
sabrina 1
Feb 2015
#22
I think I'm supposed to call my Dr. if I experience symptoms of tuberculosis or liver failure... lol
whereisjustice
Feb 2015
#27
Or if you DIE! Lol. 'Call your doctor if you experience any of the following side effects, strange
sabrina 1
Feb 2015
#47
Hey, let's put moms in jail for being concerned about what they put in their children's bodies.
sabrina 1
Feb 2015
#36
I'm so happy the internet didn't exist during the smallpox vaccination campaign.
NuclearDem
Feb 2015
#39
some regular extremists here are incapable of discussion, they've already called me a killer :)
whereisjustice
Feb 2015
#50
Most are concerned about what can get into their children's bodies in the form of a deadly disease
treestar
Feb 2015
#188
My response was to the pro-vaxer who advocates eliminating people for daring to ask questions
sabrina 1
Feb 2015
#238
We already lock up criminals, so other than dangerous anti-vaxxers who are standing in the way of...
MohRokTah
Feb 2015
#149
Actually, the root cause was an unbelievably fraudulent study pushed by an idiot
NuclearDem
Feb 2015
#24
yes- I am aware of that, but what you neglect is that most people didn't know
whereisjustice
Feb 2015
#38
it doesn't matter, the damage was done, you either fix it or deal with the
whereisjustice
Feb 2015
#79
You'd rather stick with technology developed in 1920s that freaks people out?
whereisjustice
Feb 2015
#108
His study would have never gained traction without a skyrocketing autism rate
fried eggs
Feb 2015
#40
Autism rates started going up high when Hyundai started selling cars in the US, 1986.
snooper2
Feb 2015
#203
Well, sheep like or just someone who knows what the electromagnetic spectrum is, and various parts
TransitJohn
Feb 2015
#266
most dangerous part of vaccines is the drive to the doctor's office. let the antis pray away their
msongs
Feb 2015
#34
50,000+ dead from flu and pneumonia in US/year - and the sick will go to work
whereisjustice
Feb 2015
#45
Yes it does, It has everything to do with it. Companies won't vaccinate employees and they force
whereisjustice
Feb 2015
#55
Well here's another fact, the measles vaccine I was given as child was not effective as expected
whereisjustice
Feb 2015
#89
By far, the majority of people who die from the flu & pneumonia are the elder4ly & already sick.
napi21
Feb 2015
#77
Look, you go to work with the flu and see how much you get done, and then when
whereisjustice
Feb 2015
#80
Again - it comes down to trust. If the government is worried, they'll win trust not by yelling witch
whereisjustice
Feb 2015
#57
You are preaching to the choir - the problem is, you haven't figured out how to win trust
whereisjustice
Feb 2015
#54
maybe ironic that your sigline says "women should be able to make their own healthcare decisions"
nashville_brook
Feb 2015
#194
There wouldn't have been an outbreak period if people had been getting vaccinated.
NuclearDem
Feb 2015
#68
The possibility of measles returning as an endemic disease in the US is what's at stake
bhikkhu
Feb 2015
#69
The problem is the Govt. stopped funding public awareness and costs have skyrocketed
whereisjustice
Feb 2015
#63
The ACA REQUIRES all healthcare plans to provide immunizations without a copay.
SunSeeker
Feb 2015
#87
Mississippi and West Virginia, are the only two States that do not allow religious exemption from
Bluenorthwest
Feb 2015
#166
Nah. One of this nation's biggest problems is too much discussion and not enough pitchforks.
Ykcutnek
Feb 2015
#74
There is one word for it, IGNORANCE, and while most of the ignorance and thoughtlessness
JDPriestly
Feb 2015
#86
thank you, and agree, the price of vaccines has tripled in last 15 years, dr offices in tx
whereisjustice
Feb 2015
#91
the problem is - your response is even worse than their assertions, seriously
whereisjustice
Feb 2015
#95
You are not very old, I remember polio and measles, etc - anti-vax is nothing new
whereisjustice
Feb 2015
#101
I agree, this is one of the best threads about the topic I have read on DU so far
dissentient
Feb 2015
#100
lol and thank you, much better than being called a blood stained killer :)
whereisjustice
Feb 2015
#105
agree - I bet many trashing this thread never got their measles booster which is
whereisjustice
Feb 2015
#104
maybe you are refering to antibody titration (titering)? TB test is also common
whereisjustice
Feb 2015
#275
And don't forget the recent fraud claims connected to Merck's MMR vaccine, complete with whistle-blowers.
pnwmom
Feb 2015
#107
thanks, there is another irony, between 1957 and 1971 measles vaccine was "less" effective
whereisjustice
Feb 2015
#110
That's right. Many of the people filled with outrage are under-vaccinated themselves
pnwmom
Feb 2015
#112
We should work with the people who think gays should not be able to get married then.
Eko
Feb 2015
#158
I think a lot of people already figured that out 'that the pitchfork wielders' true agenda is
sabrina 1
Feb 2015
#295
To this list I would add the introduction of a vaccine that might not even be necessary.
Chemisse
Feb 2015
#133
Had all my mercury fillings removed 11 years ago after a gum reaction to a crown
Pooka Fey
Feb 2015
#141
This is an international problem. Learn about outbreaks in the Netherlands and Canada which stream
Bluenorthwest
Feb 2015
#167
17 yrs ago, my son had a reaction to 2 year old, zillion shots. late at night, he went into autistic
seabeyond
Feb 2015
#171
You fail to understand how things have changed, if you don't adjust the campaign
whereisjustice
Feb 2015
#263
thanks, appreciate it. most people can't seem to do more than skim and overreact
whereisjustice
Feb 2015
#264
Do you have a link that supports your claim that unvaccinated refugees caused the outbreak(s)?
cyberswede
Feb 2015
#232
I believe Pres Obama AND Hillary were both guilty of the same type of vaccine hysteria...
1bigdude
Feb 2015
#196
No, because the root cause is stupidity and fraud. All of your arguments are wrong.
jeff47
Feb 2015
#210
Whew! Thank you soooooo much! I wanted to write this but you did it first!
DesertDiamond
Feb 2015
#244
An arbitration? Sure. Tell you what. They leave the pre-pubescent wmd at home, I'll leave the
jtuck004
Feb 2015
#251
Funny you should say that. Did you know millions of middle aged people who thought
whereisjustice
Feb 2015
#272
ROFL. You sent me a video in which a doctor says the anti-vaxxers are wrong, and that people my age
jtuck004
Feb 2015
#276
you think I am an anti-vaxer? that's your take away? Christ I can't believe I wasted my time w/ you
whereisjustice
Feb 2015
#280
"7. We are exposed to too many chemicals in our daily lives." What does that even mean?
Liberal Veteran
Feb 2015
#261
Thank you for posting. All good points, also don't forget this year's ineffective flu shot.
joanbarnes
Feb 2015
#270
Most rational post on the vaccine issue yet. Bravo whereisjustice!
Dont call me Shirley
Feb 2015
#277