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you left out: they do not want to see there is a problem, till they find a scapegoat bettyellen Feb 2015 #1
and, you must be BRAVE! snooper2 Feb 2015 #199
pitchforks blackcrow Feb 2015 #2
People just want to feel in control because it makes them feel good. TransitJohn Feb 2015 #3
sadly, because of this impulse to believe it is 100% an outside cause, few advocate bettyellen Feb 2015 #223
No, eject them from society. MohRokTah Feb 2015 #4
I agree gopiscrap Feb 2015 #75
If it were about the species we would not have atomic weapons. zeemike Feb 2015 #81
Throw em in Concentration Camps! Hari Seldon Feb 2015 #121
Are you ann--- Feb 2015 #126
It's not a huge step from "eject them from society" to "concentration camps" Fumesucker Feb 2015 #130
Baloney, the Jews thought no such thing treestar Feb 2015 #184
No. Just throw 'em off DU... SidDithers Feb 2015 #222
Really it would be more efficient to line them up and shoot them. Chemisse Feb 2015 #134
yep 2pooped2pop Feb 2015 #174
With right wing comments like that it is hard to tell who is more Coo Coo For Cocoa Puffs. GoneFishin Feb 2015 #209
yes it is 2pooped2pop Feb 2015 #221
#11 - piss-poor science education. 70% of Americans believe that angels actually exist. Q.E.D. - nt KingCharlemagne Feb 2015 #5
I had to check the comments before posting because I knew someone else would have Erich Bloodaxe BSN Feb 2015 #169
Your response would make a fine OP and allow you to elaborate somewhat on its themes. There's KingCharlemagne Feb 2015 #183
Haven't read it, but it sounds like it indeed is running along the same lines of thought. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Feb 2015 #190
K&R. Dumbing down of the population has succeeded. We can see icecaps and glaciers melting and still Overseas Feb 2015 #268
Thank you, recommended. It is not like all this suspicion is coming from a vacuum dissentient Feb 2015 #6
Bullshit jberryhill Feb 2015 #14
Missing the point dissentient Feb 2015 #16
There is no way to alter their perceptions of reality. MohRokTah Feb 2015 #19
Wow, to me that is beyond extreme dissentient Feb 2015 #21
Since anti-vaxxers are an asymetric political group, you're right about politicans. MohRokTah Feb 2015 #23
So the pro-vaxers want to 'remove those who don't agree with them from society'! Wow. That sabrina 1 Feb 2015 #53
+1000 n/t 2pooped2pop Feb 2015 #180
Does Putin allow his comrades to be vaccinated or just segments of society? snooper2 Feb 2015 #201
Are you in the wrong thread or something? My response was to a PRO-VAXER who wants to eliminate sabrina 1 Feb 2015 #236
Putin is Big Pharma, I believe he is proposing elimination of anyone who disagrees with his ways snooper2 Feb 2015 #237
So you agree then with the Pro Vaxer I responded to who proposes the elimination of those who dare sabrina 1 Feb 2015 #239
I think this is what you're grasping for... cui bono Feb 2015 #257
Thank you, and since I've never voiced an opinion about Putin, and don't know this person btw, it sabrina 1 Feb 2015 #292
Pure ignorance on your part. HERVEPA Feb 2015 #208
Ignorance? Regarding what? sabrina 1 Feb 2015 #293
totally agree. bbgrunt Feb 2015 #254
Don't let people's anger repel you. Vaccines are extremely important. cui bono Feb 2015 #259
I am repelled. But not about vaccines, I am well informed on the subject, as much as anyone can be. sabrina 1 Feb 2015 #281
I am disappointed also. Thanks for putting it so well. nm rhett o rick Feb 2015 #284
I definitely agree with you on that. cui bono Feb 2015 #286
Love that quote, it is absolutely true. It doesn't bother me at all, as FDR said, 'I welcome their sabrina 1 Feb 2015 #287
If you're joining the anti-vaxxers, you don't give a shit about human lives. NuclearDem Feb 2015 #265
This message was self-deleted by its author rhett o rick Feb 2015 #283
unfortunately 2pooped2pop Feb 2015 #175
wow 2pooped2pop Feb 2015 #173
You're not the only one. sabrina 1 Feb 2015 #294
I feel that way about people who refuse to see the problems with the Dem Party and its leaders, cui bono Feb 2015 #260
Bullshit bullshit jberryhill Feb 2015 #37
It doesn't take a psychic to see that some folks make this connection dissentient Feb 2015 #44
When you look at an issue dispassionately Chemisse Feb 2015 #136
But once people become suspicious Chemisse Feb 2015 #135
The vaccines simply as profit to PhRMA is a ludicrous conclusion Trekologer Feb 2015 #160
Good luck! eom fried eggs Feb 2015 #7
Wow....you only thought you might be digressing by end of Point 8?..... pkdu Feb 2015 #8
I'm not anti-vax, but you'll just alienate anti-vaxers without acknowledging where whereisjustice Feb 2015 #25
Actually considering what anti-vaxxers have to say has made the problem WORSE. MohRokTah Feb 2015 #156
Simply saying that you vaccinate your kids to an anti-vaxer Bettie Feb 2015 #200
Fuck Rand Paul jberryhill Feb 2015 #9
? whereisjustice Feb 2015 #58
Rand Paul was interviewed on CNN rpannier Feb 2015 #116
I wouldn't want to. Liberalynn Feb 2015 #241
America is not a nation with a sweet, benevolent government. There is a lot of distrust. Bonobo Feb 2015 #10
Would you be interested in a recipe for cornflake doused fried chicken? NYC_SKP Feb 2015 #11
Then don't listen to the government. Act_of_Reparation Feb 2015 #15
Yelling "burn the witch" really isn't going to get more people vaccinated, that's for sure whereisjustice Feb 2015 #30
Yes, it will. MohRokTah Feb 2015 #157
Doctors who are ann--- Feb 2015 #127
No. Act_of_Reparation Feb 2015 #12
Precisely jberryhill Feb 2015 #17
Yes> And I do. And I know it worked. Because I am old enough to have whereisjustice Feb 2015 #32
I'll tell you what: Act_of_Reparation Feb 2015 #213
But you are not thinking of the differential effect - the important part is making sure whereisjustice Feb 2015 #271
Anti-vaxxers at DU should be banned... SidDithers Feb 2015 #13
+1,000,000,000,000 MohRokTah Feb 2015 #18
lol - like someone coming back from Africa, due to Ebola risk? hahahahahahah whereisjustice Feb 2015 #35
The "isolation from society" attitude is downright creepy Art_from_Ark Feb 2015 #114
Do you think so...... Historic NY Feb 2015 #153
Perhaps a little context to what my comment was based on would help Art_from_Ark Feb 2015 #279
Funny, you know how Ebola didn't spread in the US? NuclearDem Feb 2015 #217
u might be looking a little anti social 2pooped2pop Feb 2015 #186
Yep. DU shouldn't be giving a platform for these idiots. NuclearDem Feb 2015 #26
Oh for the good ole days........... leftofcool Feb 2015 #124
Lots of opinions will get you banned... SidDithers Feb 2015 #143
The last time I checked leftofcool Feb 2015 #148
+1000000 J_J_ Feb 2015 #227
Banned people keep coming back.. SidDithers Feb 2015 #274
+1000 n/t 2pooped2pop Feb 2015 #187
Or at least sent to the dungeon treestar Feb 2015 #177
Yup. The dungeon, or the astrology, crystals and moon-bombing group...nt SidDithers Feb 2015 #178
So should gunners. Crunchy Frog Feb 2015 #243
Anti-intellectualism is the root cause anti-vaxxers, mixed with more than a modicum of ignorance. Agnosticsherbet Feb 2015 #20
Sorry, you are wrong: dont-call-them-dumb-experts-fighting-anti-vaccine-movement whereisjustice Feb 2015 #267
The only place anyone is going to tell you have blood on your hands for being rational, appears to sabrina 1 Feb 2015 #22
I think I'm supposed to call my Dr. if I experience symptoms of tuberculosis or liver failure... lol whereisjustice Feb 2015 #27
Or if you DIE! Lol. 'Call your doctor if you experience any of the following side effects, strange sabrina 1 Feb 2015 #47
Or erections lasting longer than 4 hours Art_from_Ark Feb 2015 #115
I think I must be the only one juvenile enough to find that funny. Chemisse Feb 2015 #137
No, you're not. Jamastiene Feb 2015 #155
Anti-vaxxers must be ejected from society. MohRokTah Feb 2015 #28
Hey, let's put moms in jail for being concerned about what they put in their children's bodies. sabrina 1 Feb 2015 #36
I'm so happy the internet didn't exist during the smallpox vaccination campaign. NuclearDem Feb 2015 #39
some regular extremists here are incapable of discussion, they've already called me a killer :) whereisjustice Feb 2015 #50
Just consider the sources when ever that happens, that is what I do. sabrina 1 Feb 2015 #64
you are correct G_j Feb 2015 #192
There are NO reasonable concerns about vaccines. MohRokTah Feb 2015 #147
No need to put them in jail. HappyMe Feb 2015 #152
Most are concerned about what can get into their children's bodies in the form of a deadly disease treestar Feb 2015 #188
My response was to the pro-vaxer who advocates eliminating people for daring to ask questions sabrina 1 Feb 2015 #238
No one said eliminate them haikugal Feb 2015 #255
What do you mean eliminating them? treestar Feb 2015 #291
Why am I not surprised at your stance? nt msanthrope Feb 2015 #234
Any other anti-social people you want to get rid of? leftofcool Feb 2015 #125
We already lock up criminals, so other than dangerous anti-vaxxers who are standing in the way of... MohRokTah Feb 2015 #149
Performance art, at it's best. Sheldon Cooper Feb 2015 #225
+1000 Yep, people are bombarded with these ads, literally. dissentient Feb 2015 #29
Translation: Big Pharma mercury sheeple argle bargle. NuclearDem Feb 2015 #33
While I appreciate what you say Erich Bloodaxe BSN Feb 2015 #179
so? treestar Feb 2015 #181
Actually, the root cause was an unbelievably fraudulent study pushed by an idiot NuclearDem Feb 2015 #24
Yes! Wgles Feb 2015 #250
Those are not the root causes of the anti-vax problem. Spider Jerusalem Feb 2015 #31
yes- I am aware of that, but what you neglect is that most people didn't know whereisjustice Feb 2015 #38
Ethylmercury != methylmercury NuclearDem Feb 2015 #41
it doesn't matter, the damage was done, you either fix it or deal with the whereisjustice Feb 2015 #79
Yes, let's surrender to people's ignorance. NuclearDem Feb 2015 #85
You'd rather stick with technology developed in 1920s that freaks people out? whereisjustice Feb 2015 #108
Dihydrogen monoxide freaks people out too. NuclearDem Feb 2015 #220
Except it wasn't. Spider Jerusalem Feb 2015 #43
Once the trust is shaken, it's hard to get it back. Chemisse Feb 2015 #138
And just who shook that trust? haikugal Feb 2015 #256
Does it really matter now? Chemisse Feb 2015 #258
I'm seeing that and haikugal Feb 2015 #262
And apparently some people don't know that mercury wasn't in the shot... SidDithers Feb 2015 #168
His study would have never gained traction without a skyrocketing autism rate fried eggs Feb 2015 #40
...or an expanded definition of autism. NuclearDem Feb 2015 #42
I don't know if you're intentionally minimizing it or fried eggs Feb 2015 #60
You clearly have no idea what you're talking about. NuclearDem Feb 2015 #72
Yes, we're done. You have no correct info fried eggs Feb 2015 #94
Or maybe it's organic food! Spider Jerusalem Feb 2015 #46
I certainly hope the person who put that graphic together Erich Bloodaxe BSN Feb 2015 #182
Good christ, reall? Wifi and cell phones? TransitJohn Feb 2015 #67
Are you serious? Asking questions fried eggs Feb 2015 #93
There is a reason. It's just a matter of finding it. Chemisse Feb 2015 #139
No point in asking questions when you refuse to accept the answers. nt hack89 Feb 2015 #172
Autism rates started going up high when Hyundai started selling cars in the US, 1986. snooper2 Feb 2015 #203
Well, sheep like or just someone who knows what the electromagnetic spectrum is, and various parts TransitJohn Feb 2015 #266
Could also be our understanding of autism is getting better rpannier Feb 2015 #117
This message was self-deleted by its author Alkene Feb 2015 #288
most dangerous part of vaccines is the drive to the doctor's office. let the antis pray away their msongs Feb 2015 #34
50,000+ dead from flu and pneumonia in US/year - and the sick will go to work whereisjustice Feb 2015 #45
and that has nothign to do DonCoquixote Feb 2015 #52
Yes it does, It has everything to do with it. Companies won't vaccinate employees and they force whereisjustice Feb 2015 #55
we are talking about CHILDREN DonCoquixote Feb 2015 #66
Well here's another fact, the measles vaccine I was given as child was not effective as expected whereisjustice Feb 2015 #89
B: public campaigns DonCoquixote Feb 2015 #98
Adults have every right to say no to the flu shot. Chemisse Feb 2015 #140
By far, the majority of people who die from the flu & pneumonia are the elder4ly & already sick. napi21 Feb 2015 #77
Look, you go to work with the flu and see how much you get done, and then when whereisjustice Feb 2015 #80
ok, let's grant some points DonCoquixote Feb 2015 #48
Again - it comes down to trust. If the government is worried, they'll win trust not by yelling witch whereisjustice Feb 2015 #57
do you really think DonCoquixote Feb 2015 #70
Oh wow, I don't think you are helping your cause frazzled Feb 2015 #49
You are preaching to the choir - the problem is, you haven't figured out how to win trust whereisjustice Feb 2015 #54
I think the problem is much more culturally based frazzled Feb 2015 #71
maybe ironic that your sigline says "women should be able to make their own healthcare decisions" nashville_brook Feb 2015 #194
It's ironic that you don't see the difference between frazzled Feb 2015 #245
I'm finding all the vaccine hysteria amusing Man from Pickens Feb 2015 #51
Measles was eradicated in the US fifteen years ago. NuclearDem Feb 2015 #56
whoah slow down there Man from Pickens Feb 2015 #61
There wouldn't have been an outbreak period if people had been getting vaccinated. NuclearDem Feb 2015 #68
That doesn't logically follow Man from Pickens Feb 2015 #73
You're kidding me, right? NuclearDem Feb 2015 #76
Not even slightly Man from Pickens Feb 2015 #78
No, this has been discussed, discussed, and discussed again. NuclearDem Feb 2015 #82
None of that is relevant to my questions Man from Pickens Feb 2015 #88
Wow, you really are gifted at mischaracterization elias7 Feb 2015 #122
It's funny when anti-vaxxers go on and on about scientific evidence... SidDithers Feb 2015 #170
It's even funnier... CanSocDem Feb 2015 #204
Oh, good. More of the woo crowd checking in... SidDithers Feb 2015 #207
You are kidding, right? Jamastiene Feb 2015 #163
You are not actually asking questions. jeff47 Feb 2015 #215
What happened? A fucking measles outbreak at Disneyland... SidDithers Feb 2015 #59
and? Man from Pickens Feb 2015 #62
Probably for a few kids, yes. Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2015 #111
The one's who die, will die... rpannier Feb 2015 #118
The possibility of measles returning as an endemic disease in the US is what's at stake bhikkhu Feb 2015 #69
The problem is the Govt. stopped funding public awareness and costs have skyrocketed whereisjustice Feb 2015 #63
As part of reasons number 1 & 2 here is a good NYT article whereisjustice Feb 2015 #65
The ACA REQUIRES all healthcare plans to provide immunizations without a copay. SunSeeker Feb 2015 #87
Mississippi and West Virginia, are the only two States that do not allow religious exemption from Bluenorthwest Feb 2015 #166
So money is not the reason, which is my point. nt SunSeeker Feb 2015 #247
Nah. One of this nation's biggest problems is too much discussion and not enough pitchforks. Ykcutnek Feb 2015 #74
Except in the 1960s it was very common to see PSAs on TV and radio whereisjustice Feb 2015 #84
BIG PHARMA DonCoquixote Feb 2015 #83
There is one word for it, IGNORANCE, and while most of the ignorance and thoughtlessness JDPriestly Feb 2015 #86
thank you, and agree, the price of vaccines has tripled in last 15 years, dr offices in tx whereisjustice Feb 2015 #91
Vaccinations for these common diseases JDPriestly Feb 2015 #109
+1!!! whereisjustice Feb 2015 #113
Yes. Trillo Feb 2015 #233
Ignorance and woo. Stop feeding the stupidity on point Feb 2015 #90
the problem is - your response is even worse than their assertions, seriously whereisjustice Feb 2015 #95
I would like to give this post a thousand recs. Voice for Peace Feb 2015 #92
Agree - thanks for your post whereisjustice Feb 2015 #96
The anti-vaccination lunatics are the arrogant ones. SunSeeker Feb 2015 #97
You are not very old, I remember polio and measles, etc - anti-vax is nothing new whereisjustice Feb 2015 #101
Bullshit. It is not about cost. SunSeeker Feb 2015 #106
I agree, this is one of the best threads about the topic I have read on DU so far dissentient Feb 2015 #100
FINALLY!!!!!! DeSwiss Feb 2015 #99
lol and thank you, much better than being called a blood stained killer :) whereisjustice Feb 2015 #105
I think too many here KT2000 Feb 2015 #102
agree - I bet many trashing this thread never got their measles booster which is whereisjustice Feb 2015 #104
Can You RobinA Feb 2015 #165
here is one report whereisjustice Feb 2015 #273
maybe you are refering to antibody titration (titering)? TB test is also common whereisjustice Feb 2015 #275
This thing is Salem witch trials all over again arikara Feb 2015 #103
And don't forget the recent fraud claims connected to Merck's MMR vaccine, complete with whistle-blowers. pnwmom Feb 2015 #107
thanks, there is another irony, between 1957 and 1971 measles vaccine was "less" effective whereisjustice Feb 2015 #110
That's right. Many of the people filled with outrage are under-vaccinated themselves pnwmom Feb 2015 #112
It was a killed virus back then HockeyMom Feb 2015 #142
+1 Pooka Fey Feb 2015 #145
Way too funny. Eko Feb 2015 #119
Look at all that acid in there!!!!!!!! Eko Feb 2015 #120
LOL, I thought the exact same thing with #7. trotsky Feb 2015 #162
To go down you list, one by one: Humanist_Activist Feb 2015 #123
Your post is exactly what brings the pitchforks out kcr Feb 2015 #128
THANK-YOU! Chemisse Feb 2015 #129
Naw, DUers love their pitchforks. leftofcool Feb 2015 #131
We should work with the people who think gays should not be able to get married then. Eko Feb 2015 #158
Brava!!! haikugal Feb 2015 #252
never mind the question, the answer is reddread Feb 2015 #132
You are paying attention. woo me with science Feb 2015 #146
I've noticed that as well. JEB Feb 2015 #224
I think a lot of people already figured that out 'that the pitchfork wielders' true agenda is sabrina 1 Feb 2015 #295
To this list I would add the introduction of a vaccine that might not even be necessary. Chemisse Feb 2015 #133
Had all my mercury fillings removed 11 years ago after a gum reaction to a crown Pooka Fey Feb 2015 #141
The root cause is that Idiocracy is actually a documentary. hobbit709 Feb 2015 #144
I have issues with #8 Major Nikon Feb 2015 #150
I have heard of no anti-vaxer state the points you made. randome Feb 2015 #151
Ladies and gentlemen, I present another sad case of Orrex Feb 2015 #154
I will tell you what. Jamastiene Feb 2015 #159
I Suggested This RobinA Feb 2015 #161
Righteousness has nothing to do with it. Jamastiene Feb 2015 #164
"No reasoning with the righteous" jberryhill Feb 2015 #195
This is an international problem. Learn about outbreaks in the Netherlands and Canada which stream Bluenorthwest Feb 2015 #167
17 yrs ago, my son had a reaction to 2 year old, zillion shots. late at night, he went into autistic seabeyond Feb 2015 #171
i have reactions to flu shots nashville_brook Feb 2015 #191
we don't have answers because the research has been politicized. seabeyond Feb 2015 #206
Agreed. I've talked about that intersection - and the need Ms. Toad Feb 2015 #296
I am very sorry that your son had a bad reaction to the vaccinations. KMOD Feb 2015 #193
Not vaccinating is plain stupid treestar Feb 2015 #176
You fail to understand how things have changed, if you don't adjust the campaign whereisjustice Feb 2015 #263
It sickened thousands? treestar Feb 2015 #290
Great op. NCTraveler Feb 2015 #185
thanks, appreciate it. most people can't seem to do more than skim and overreact whereisjustice Feb 2015 #264
I want to change one part of my comment. NCTraveler Feb 2015 #289
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Try again when you learn how vaccines work. arcane1 Feb 2015 #226
Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2015 #230
Do you have a link that supports your claim that unvaccinated refugees caused the outbreak(s)? cyberswede Feb 2015 #232
I believe Pres Obama AND Hillary were both guilty of the same type of vaccine hysteria... 1bigdude Feb 2015 #196
"We are over-medicated" jberryhill Feb 2015 #197
Never mind that without vaccines, we'd be even more medicated. Act_of_Reparation Feb 2015 #216
Based on admittedly personal and anecdotal experience Bettie Feb 2015 #198
Your long post leaves out something important. MineralMan Feb 2015 #202
This is a good start. LWolf Feb 2015 #205
No, because the root cause is stupidity and fraud. All of your arguments are wrong. jeff47 Feb 2015 #210
^This Act_of_Reparation Feb 2015 #214
^^^^^must read. Barack_America Feb 2015 #269
It's not about trust. Avalux Feb 2015 #211
K&R Oilwellian Feb 2015 #212
Conspiracy whackos and people with too much time on their hands underpants Feb 2015 #218
Horse. Fucking. Shit. we can do it Feb 2015 #219
No. Iggo Feb 2015 #228
Public funding of elections! That would rebuild trust in the longer term. Trillo Feb 2015 #229
When it comes to obnoxiousdrunk Feb 2015 #231
There is only one reason for being in the anti-vax side adieu Feb 2015 #235
Stupidity and self-important privilege? Check. 6000eliot Feb 2015 #240
Wrong. We CAN begin to fix a real problem without fully understanding others. Orsino Feb 2015 #242
Whew! Thank you soooooo much! I wanted to write this but you did it first! DesertDiamond Feb 2015 #244
my kids are vaccinated but I think you have a very good point renate Feb 2015 #246
Every single one of your 10 points is completely irrelevant. Gman Feb 2015 #248
11. Needles ThoughtCriminal Feb 2015 #249
An arbitration? Sure. Tell you what. They leave the pre-pubescent wmd at home, I'll leave the jtuck004 Feb 2015 #251
Funny you should say that. Did you know millions of middle aged people who thought whereisjustice Feb 2015 #272
ROFL. You sent me a video in which a doctor says the anti-vaxxers are wrong, and that people my age jtuck004 Feb 2015 #276
you think I am an anti-vaxer? that's your take away? Christ I can't believe I wasted my time w/ you whereisjustice Feb 2015 #280
You missed it... Spitfire of ATJ Feb 2015 #253
"7. We are exposed to too many chemicals in our daily lives." What does that even mean? Liberal Veteran Feb 2015 #261
Thank you for posting. All good points, also don't forget this year's ineffective flu shot. joanbarnes Feb 2015 #270
Most rational post on the vaccine issue yet. Bravo whereisjustice! Dont call me Shirley Feb 2015 #277
Good job! rwsanders Feb 2015 #278
Sometimes pitchforks are necessary Blecht Feb 2015 #282
Absolutely not; in fact mine is held higher. RiffRandell Feb 2015 #285
I am pleased that there are 90 members of DU, Ms. Toad Feb 2015 #297
Agree, whereisjustice Feb 2015 #298
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