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MohRokTah

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5. You must think those of us who advocate harshly for vaccination are as stupid as the anti-vaxxers.

Tue Feb 3, 2015, 11:06 AM

Feb 2015

Advances are constantly made.

At the same time we have tools that are effective and safe for some very deadly diseases.

We are on the brink of eradicating polio in the wild. IF we can overcome a little anti-vaxxer bullshit in a few third world areas, we will successfully eradicate. Time is working against us though due to the fact that there are clusters of people where herd immunity is now currently broken in the US and a single case introduced into one of those clusters will set us back decades. This is due to first world anti-vaxxer bullshit.

MMRV could successfully eradicate all four diseases in the wild if the same methods used to eradicate smallpox were also used.

We have safe and effective tools now. It's foolish not to use what is currently in our medical arsenal while medical science continues to advance.

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This message was self-deleted by its author [View all] SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2015 OP

Of course we should continue to investigate and advance epidemiology. Warren Stupidity Feb 2015 #1

I fear the harsh discourse serves no purpose. SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2015 #6

Oh so we should coddle the idiots? Warren Stupidity Feb 2015 #15

you have move away from my point SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2015 #20

"I fear the harsh discourse...." Warren Stupidity Feb 2015 #22

I hate to be so banal SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2015 #25

Twain's and Voltaire's scathing assaults on the sub-literate idiots attracted more flies than honey LanternWaste Feb 2015 #30

Who wants to attract flies? haikugal Feb 2015 #34

Individuals who tell us they hate to be banal, I'd guess... :) LanternWaste Feb 2015 #38

Twain and Voltaire... SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2015 #57

don't forget "the mysterious biogogical system", like you did our eradication of smallpox. bettyellen Feb 2015 #31

sorry - I did not get your point SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2015 #33

Bees not flies! n/t PasadenaTrudy Feb 2015 #42

I have found it true with bears also. SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2015 #49

Lol! PasadenaTrudy Feb 2015 #50

Maybe if this wasnt what was at risk, we could avoid the harsh discourse NoJusticeNoPeace Feb 2015 #76

I hope you change some minds. SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2015 #78

For those whose minds are made up, no evidence is sufficient. I remember that epidemic. Hekate Feb 2015 #88

I doubt you're going to find anyone here who argues NuclearDem Feb 2015 #2

I'm not prejudiced, but lame54 Feb 2015 #3

are you sure? SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2015 #37

Is gravity real - let's have a discussion lame54 Feb 2015 #58

Yes yes yes SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2015 #59

i didn't ask how - i asked if it exist in the first place... lame54 Feb 2015 #60

not sure what puppies have to do with it SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2015 #61

Wow... lame54 Feb 2015 #62

you like beating dead horses? SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2015 #63

I think a dead horse would catch on quicker than you lame54 Feb 2015 #64

catch on to what? SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2015 #65

The fact that gravity exists, for one n/t kcr Feb 2015 #72

stop the bad thinking SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2015 #73

You have a responsiblity to DU to provide a cite. OilemFirchen Feb 2015 #82

thank you SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2015 #83

Well that was 15 minutes of my life I'm not going to get back. GoneOffShore Feb 2015 #84

You can thank NASA SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2015 #87

I have always supported more research into vaccines. Are_grits_groceries Feb 2015 #4

NO SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2015 #7

You must think those of us who advocate harshly for vaccination are as stupid as the anti-vaxxers. MohRokTah Feb 2015 #5

This should not even be open to debate. still_one Feb 2015 #9

It is not what you do... SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2015 #10

Trying to have rational discussions with the anti-vaxxers has been the approach for over a decade MohRokTah Feb 2015 #12

Time for talk in Iraq was over... SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2015 #13

that is such bullshit, didn't you feel just a little ashamed hitting enter? Warren Stupidity Feb 2015 #17

No - not even a little SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2015 #21

... NuclearDem Feb 2015 #19

cute... but not very constructive SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2015 #23

You tried to compare vaccinations with the Iraq War. NuclearDem Feb 2015 #24

Talk about your non-sequiters! MohRokTah Feb 2015 #26

see how quickly the the thread was moved from the original idea SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2015 #28

You moved it there. Warren Stupidity Feb 2015 #41

no, my point was that you will waste time and never... SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2015 #67

No, you don't yell at a drunk. xmas74 Feb 2015 #74

There isn't a scientist worth their salt who isn't constantly trying to find more answers. Avalux Feb 2015 #8

I look forward to the day when an immunization mechanism capable of dealing with the mutable nature MohRokTah Feb 2015 #11

Yes Yes Yes SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2015 #16

ME too!! I wrote this in 2005 and would be honored if you'd read it. Avalux Feb 2015 #27

I've got 5 of those on the list. What do I win? NightWatcher Feb 2015 #14

Thank You and... SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2015 #29

We learn things all the time, and in 500 years... 3catwoman3 Feb 2015 #18

Thank you for the thoughtful and informative post. SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2015 #40

I would like there to be more vaccines, starting with a vaccine against HIV please. Bluenorthwest Feb 2015 #32

"mindlessly promote"... SidDithers Feb 2015 #35

This thread demonstrates clearly that rational thought... SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2015 #36

You argue for carrying on as we have for the past decade. MohRokTah Feb 2015 #43

I like your responce. SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2015 #46

Forced confinement in their homes with zero physical contact is adequate. eom MohRokTah Feb 2015 #55

Question: Do I think this thread is a anti vaxxer troll Johonny Feb 2015 #39

What does it feel like to be wrong? SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2015 #44

I think creating doubt about life saving vaccines is mean. I think it is meanness to foster fear Bluenorthwest Feb 2015 #68

Ok SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2015 #69

From the CDC Marrah_G Feb 2015 #45

Thank you for the thoughtful and informative post. SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2015 #48

Thank you for this list PasadenaTrudy Feb 2015 #47

I don't understand your point. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Feb 2015 #51

Two points SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2015 #52

Ankylosing Spondylitis is NOT caused by vaccines JustAnotherGen Feb 2015 #53

I hope good things for you. SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2015 #54

Yes JustAnotherGen Feb 2015 #56

Most of what's listed is genetic REP Feb 2015 #66

So he should take them all off the list! JustAnotherGen Feb 2015 #85

So you want more tolerance of anti-vaccine quackery? Marr Feb 2015 #70

NO SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2015 #71

Nothing will change their mind. If they cared about evidence, Marr Feb 2015 #75

I think it SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2015 #77

Until such a time edhopper Feb 2015 #79

Thank you for the thoughtful post. SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2015 #81

False dichotomy combined with an insult? uppityperson Feb 2015 #80

helping people change bad ideas might be as complex as the... SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2015 #86

Goading and goading and goading. You having fun with this? Hekate Feb 2015 #89

I did find it sad. SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2015 #90