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NoJusticeNoPeace

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116. I chose ignorant as a catch all, do you really want to challenge this?

Tue Feb 3, 2015, 06:33 PM

Feb 2015

If you do then you did not listen to George Carlin, he challenged and berated us on all topics.

Whether it was an over-sensitivity to words or not understanding the power of language.

Whether it was about the IGNORANCE of believing in religion or capitalism, and many other things.

Being offended by language WAS one of his routines, for crying out loud

SEVEN DIRTY WORDS

what in the WORLD do you think was his point

His point was how STUPID it was to be offended by certain words and not others...or words at all

Look, if you dont like me, fine, say so, but dont try and rewrite the history of George Carlin, some of us know him far too well for that.

This reminds me of the anti climate change person, or denier, who used George out of context to say George didn't believe in climate change, when the opposite was true.

How I know the opposite was true was he clarified the statement "the planet will be fine, the people will be fucked" and I asked his daughter who laughed at the very idea that George denied climate change.

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Why the DU vulgarity? [View all] Shemp Howard Feb 2015 OP

What the fuck do you mean? MohRokTah Feb 2015 #1

Hell if I know. ChairmanAgnostic Feb 2015 #90

It's a god damned mother fucking shame. MohRokTah Feb 2015 #92

Yeah, having a bitch of a time with this one. ChairmanAgnostic Feb 2015 #93

Fuckin' eh! kentauros Feb 2015 #96

What the fuck is your concern? nt msanthrope Feb 2015 #2

This whole thing seems to be completely fucked up shit. eom MohRokTah Feb 2015 #5

The OP should unfuck this. nt msanthrope Feb 2015 #8

However, I refuse to unfuck this post: kentauros Feb 2015 #28

Any thread that results in the posting of this video is a great fucking thread. cyberswede Feb 2015 #33

It was well on it's way to becoming a great fucking thread kentauros Feb 2015 #64

Oh @#$@#$!@#$ benz380 Feb 2015 #3

these threads usually end up with more fucking posts snooper2 Feb 2015 #4

Sometimes it's more fucking posts OriginalGeek Feb 2015 #82

WTFuck you going on about? bravenak Feb 2015 #6

Fuck is merely a word. "Vulgarity" is totally relative. PeaceNikki Feb 2015 #7

+1111111111111111111111111111111 NoJusticeNoPeace Feb 2015 #10

My family crest is: a pair of eyes rolling to the side, the GB Packer logo, & the word 'fuck'. PeaceNikki Feb 2015 #12

Anyone who is bothered by language should listen to George Carlin explain exactly NoJusticeNoPeace Feb 2015 #15

I think I was around 7 the first time I saw a Carlin routine. PeaceNikki Feb 2015 #27

Have you ever noticed how your shit is stuff and everybody else's stuff is shit? MohRokTah Feb 2015 #51

another classic NoJusticeNoPeace Feb 2015 #59

Anyone who tells others what they "should" or "should not" be offended by whathehell Feb 2015 #111

Bullshit, he constantly berated people for being ignorant, just the EXACT opposite of what you NoJusticeNoPeace Feb 2015 #112

Waaaahhh! whathehell Feb 2015 #115

I chose ignorant as a catch all, do you really want to challenge this? NoJusticeNoPeace Feb 2015 #116

That's where you went wrong, lol whathehell Feb 2015 #127

Words have power and one can be offended by more than whathehell Feb 2015 #110

whatthehell, indeed. PeaceNikki Feb 2015 #113

You betcha, lol. whathehell Feb 2015 #120

Why do you even bother to read what people write if you're just going to put your own spin on it ? PeaceNikki Feb 2015 #122

You can call it "spin" or whatever you like.. whathehell Feb 2015 #129

Jesus Christ, you just want to pick a fight. ok. PeaceNikki Feb 2015 #134

Over react much, LOL? whathehell Feb 2015 #199

Yes, you do. I am not your fucking 'dear'. You came into this thread like a total asshole. PeaceNikki Feb 2015 #200

I am in awe that was excellent. NT Kalidurga Feb 2015 #228

+1 truebluegreen Feb 2015 #237

Exactly! Liberalynn Feb 2015 #188

Recommended. H2O Man Feb 2015 #9

+1 -- one of my strongest, most dearly held beliefs. F4lconF16 Feb 2015 #85

I agree. H2O Man Feb 2015 #88

I haven't been around DU long enough to be able to comment on the post quality trends. F4lconF16 Feb 2015 #91

And yet the laws that oppress LGBT people in this country are crafted of the 'clean' language you Bluenorthwest Feb 2015 #195

Yet you are H2O Man Feb 2015 #197

"The second is more like a childish playground taunt." kentauros Feb 2015 #11

That's why I swear Liberalynn Feb 2015 #189

I would add shock to that, too. kentauros Feb 2015 #209

Definitely Liberalynn Feb 2015 #211

IMO, progressives may or may not see the best in people...it's ancillary to progressiveness HereSince1628 Feb 2015 #13

So much in so few words. Nice. nt. NCTraveler Feb 2015 #21

Unfortunately, I think it's true...it has led to dead people upon barricades HereSince1628 Feb 2015 #41

I also believe it to be true. NCTraveler Feb 2015 #48

Take cover Bobbie Jo Feb 2015 #14

Moe started it. pintobean Feb 2015 #16

"Vulgarity" has a place and time. NCTraveler Feb 2015 #17

We are angry and passionate... PasadenaTrudy Feb 2015 #18

I actually feel sorry for you. riderinthestorm Feb 2015 #19

I can't be humane and compassionate SamKnause Feb 2015 #20

We're all fucking adults here. Dawgs Feb 2015 #22

Dang, now you have the whole kindergarten riled up! Comrade Grumpy Feb 2015 #23

TO ALL THOSE WHO ARE RESPONDING WITH A VULGARITY... Shemp Howard Feb 2015 #24

And the fucking same to you! truebrit71 Feb 2015 #31

What did you expect? HappyMe Feb 2015 #34

Using 'ALL CAPS'' is considered vulgar by many on DU Brother Buzz Feb 2015 #35

Don't let it get to you. cwydro Feb 2015 #46

You might want to check your tone there, Ace. Act_of_Reparation Feb 2015 #55

Joan Baez? Had to look her up, you know it's fucking 2015 now right snooper2 Feb 2015 #67

Lolololololol, love that song & it is perfect for this OP. giftedgirl77 Feb 2015 #119

Perfect!!!!nt bravenak Feb 2015 #130

Great fucking scott! Warren DeMontague Feb 2015 #151

You ignored rational discussion. Fuck that. PeaceNikki Feb 2015 #70

a rational discussion about an utterly fucking idiotic topic? Warren Stupidity Feb 2015 #73

I saw Patti Smith last night. zappaman Feb 2015 #77

now I'm crying too Warren Stupidity Feb 2015 #78

I wish someone would have stopped the concert and asked... zappaman Feb 2015 #81

I like your style, dude Warren DeMontague Feb 2015 #152

Thanks! zappaman Feb 2015 #215

and the horse you rode in on. COLGATE4 Feb 2015 #79

You had better develop a sense of humor if you are going to get along on DU. Jamastiene Feb 2015 #102

Wait, don't you mean you're going to go listen to some more Joan Baez? kcr Feb 2015 #106

It is a game ann--- Feb 2015 #156

Yeah 'part of the game', your own words...opps right!? Rex Feb 2015 #223

Well, fuck me. AtheistCrusader Feb 2015 #245

Well that certainly billh58 Feb 2015 #265

What the fuck is wrong with using the word fuck? I don't got a fucking problem using it and Autumn Feb 2015 #25

It all started with Nilsson BeyondGeography Feb 2015 #26

No fucking clue.... truebrit71 Feb 2015 #29

Don't be silly eridani Feb 2015 #173

We are adults here. HappyMe Feb 2015 #30

Welcome. lovemydog Feb 2015 #32

The OP has been a member of DU since September 2013. merrily Feb 2015 #164

In my mind, and I don't speak for DU, I consider denoting certain words in speech Cleita Feb 2015 #36

What fucking "best" did you see in George W. Fucking Bush? WorseBeforeBetter Feb 2015 #37

You've been here since '13. How do you NOT know what kind of responses a thread like this will get? cherokeeprogressive Feb 2015 #38

I think you are giving the OP way too much credit. merrily Feb 2015 #168

You're not new, unless we're talking about your post count. LiberalAndProud Feb 2015 #39

To me there are far more vulgar words.. yuiyoshida Feb 2015 #40

Fuck yeah! JustAnotherGen Feb 2015 #43

+1000! nt Logical Feb 2015 #44

War. 'drone strikes'. 'collateral damage'. nt Erich Bloodaxe BSN Feb 2015 #128

Here are a few more: Brigid Feb 2015 #42

Yep! kentauros Feb 2015 #100

And it's off to Confession with the lot of 'em! Brigid Feb 2015 #103

Gobshite is one of my alltime faves! cwydro Feb 2015 #125

You will love this guy: Brigid Feb 2015 #131

"Fuckshite!" cwydro Feb 2015 #132

"Aw piss off, Sir. I'm goin' fer a pint." Tsiyu Feb 2015 #212

Hey! Knock that fucking shit off... madinmaryland Feb 2015 #137

Well, there is someone here on DU, I don't remember who . . . Brigid Feb 2015 #138

Snort... madinmaryland Feb 2015 #142

Hey, it wasn't my dog. Brigid Feb 2015 #143

From Lenny Bruce... SidDithers Feb 2015 #45

So calling Bush on ruling like a spoiled brat is childish taunting? Orsino Feb 2015 #47

In the sentence, "Fucking Bush was wrong," the vulgar part is "George W Bush", not the F-word. FSogol Feb 2015 #49

I don't know ... LiberalAndProud Feb 2015 #118

Because fuck. Iggo Feb 2015 #50

Because we can. Why the intolerance Shemp Howard? Avalux Feb 2015 #52

Fuck fuckity fuck fuck fuck. NuclearDem Feb 2015 #53

I'll have you know... pipi_k Feb 2015 #54

No, but he certainly fucked you, kentauros Feb 2015 #63

And.... pipi_k Feb 2015 #196

Agreed & Rec'd Bonx Feb 2015 #56

My DU typing style is very similar to my speaking style City Lights Feb 2015 #57

It's a First Amendment issue. NT Trillo Feb 2015 #58

You may be a newbe!!! mstinamotorcity2 Feb 2015 #60

Lol! Jamastiene Feb 2015 #104

DUzy.... giftedgirl77 Feb 2015 #123

It is this level of illiteracy... CanSocDem Feb 2015 #190

the first thing DU mstinamotorcity2 Feb 2015 #248

Nobody needs education to participate here. Thus, the vulgar language as a substitute closeupready Feb 2015 #61

We are living in world that is looking for enemies to subdue nolabels Feb 2015 #62

I don't know a person alive who has ever scraped their knuckles Jamastiene Feb 2015 #108

Because "FUCK that FUCKING FUCKER McCain" gets about ten times more recs and replies Nye Bevan Feb 2015 #65

Hell...THIS thread is getting more replies... cyberswede Feb 2015 #68

OPs presuming to tell DUers how to post usually do get many replies, as well they should. merrily Feb 2015 #163

Shemp and his fried eggs. Rex Feb 2015 #224

I call bullshit on that fucking jive. merrily Feb 2015 #162

Personally, I think it's time for some Dead Kennedys kentauros Feb 2015 #66

"Now I got diaherrea" zappaman Feb 2015 #80

Well Dick Cheney started it. Lint Head Feb 2015 #69

I have to admit that my use of profanity increased exponentially when GW Bushie boy mnhtnbb Feb 2015 #71

This OP is some fucked up confused bullshit. Warren Stupidity Feb 2015 #72

It's what we do...It's who we are... ileus Feb 2015 #74

Beats the fuck outta me. zappaman Feb 2015 #75

I agree. Thanks, and welcome. elleng Feb 2015 #76

Well if that isn't a pack of fornicating elephants I dunno what is. Kalidurga Feb 2015 #83

Fucking Freedom - It's the shit lame54 Feb 2015 #84

Lots of giggly little boys think they are liberals. Jakes Progress Feb 2015 #86

And lots of cranky old farts think it's still 1968 and they need to go "clean for Gene" Warren DeMontague Feb 2015 #148

You imply Jakes Progress Feb 2015 #230

You imply that the vast majority of DU that doesn't have a problem with the word "fuck", is Warren DeMontague Feb 2015 #232

Wha? Jakes Progress Feb 2015 #252

Yeah, I thought so. Warren DeMontague Feb 2015 #253

Thought didn't enter into it. Jakes Progress Feb 2015 #256

Addressing the things you asked in your post? What did you even ask? Warren DeMontague Feb 2015 #259

Thought so. Jakes Progress Feb 2015 #268

bingo DrDan Feb 2015 #170

Right. Real liberals know about decorum Warren DeMontague Feb 2015 #233

Most of the indecorous Jakes Progress Feb 2015 #250

Well, most of the sanctimonious, moralizing, purity crusaders I come into contact with Warren DeMontague Feb 2015 #254

Me fucking too! zappaman Feb 2015 #255

This wasn't about sanctimony, morals, or purity. But you knew that. Jakes Progress Feb 2015 #257

Slack? SLACK? Warren DeMontague Feb 2015 #258

Peace on you. Jakes Progress Feb 2015 #264

I used to get tight Warren DeMontague Feb 2015 #266

LOL. TransitJohn Feb 2015 #183

How old are you? Jakes Progress Feb 2015 #229

43. No idea. Not very. Never enough. TransitJohn Feb 2015 #231

Read your own posts. Jakes Progress Feb 2015 #251

You don't like the word "fuck", and yet, you do seem to like the word "duck" Warren DeMontague Feb 2015 #260

I like ducks. Jakes Progress Feb 2015 #269

why do you drive on the parkway, and park on the driveway? Warren DeMontague Feb 2015 #235

I once spent an entire day working and talking with Joan Baez, whose language was not 'pure' by any Bluenorthwest Feb 2015 #87

What the hell? Damn, what the fuck is this shit you're bitching about? TheKentuckian Feb 2015 #89

I fucking love this goddam discussion Sheepshank Feb 2015 #94

+fucking1 F4lconF16 Feb 2015 #99

Condescending Nonsense ProfessorGAC Feb 2015 #95

It's a generational thing, largely. Smarmie Doofus Feb 2015 #97

OMG Skittles Feb 2015 #98

What the fuck are you talking about? Jamastiene Feb 2015 #101

LQQK at the fecking mess you caused.... Historic NY Feb 2015 #105

Totally agree with the poster locks Feb 2015 #107

Gimme an F U C K antiquie Feb 2015 #109

Come on... countryjake Feb 2015 #114

One of the best songs ever. polly7 Feb 2015 #136

Sit back and relax, this is nice .... polly7 Feb 2015 #117

Maybe what this thread really needs is a closing song: kentauros Feb 2015 #147

Love it! polly7 Feb 2015 #155

Found it! kentauros Feb 2015 #208

We have a great bar! polly7 Feb 2015 #213

You live in the world of "Cheers" kentauros Feb 2015 #214

Absolutely! polly7 Feb 2015 #216

The "wall art" reminds me of a place we used to have here, kentauros Feb 2015 #217

Sounds like an awesome place, great name lol. polly7 Feb 2015 #218

If your clientele will respect the repainted walls enough kentauros Feb 2015 #225

The ladies washroom walls are so pretty and inspirational ... it's fun watching strangers polly7 Feb 2015 #238

That's odd that it wouldn't open for you in Canada, kentauros Feb 2015 #240

FreeCycle sounds like a great thing. polly7 Feb 2015 #241

I might just have to do that! kentauros Feb 2015 #242

It is sooo cold here right now, New Zealand sounds like absolute heaven. polly7 Feb 2015 #243

Ooooooohhhhh! You done did it now! nt tblue37 Feb 2015 #121

Well thanks for your concern. GoneOffShore Feb 2015 #124

DU can and is used to vent as all as to discuss, share, learn, snark. I cuss here uppityperson Feb 2015 #126

Words don't scare me. blogslut Feb 2015 #133

I don't know. Why do some people have steal screen names from famous dead people notadmblnd Feb 2015 #135

How was Joan Baez? MrMickeysMom Feb 2015 #139

She was FUCKING AWESOME Warren DeMontague Feb 2015 #150

The OP has been a member of DU since September 2013. merrily Feb 2015 #166

Put all these fuckers on ignore iwillalwayswonderwhy Feb 2015 #140

So you are... 99Forever Feb 2015 #141

I don't know, but I love your DU name. NaturalHigh Feb 2015 #144

Well fuck me nekkid! BubbaFett Feb 2015 #145

It's a cherished tradition. Don't fuck it up. Enthusiast Feb 2015 #146

Oh for fuckitty fuck fuck's sake. Warren DeMontague Feb 2015 #149

You take your username from a guy who settled arguments by jamming his finger into peoples' eyes Warren DeMontague Feb 2015 #153

Why I oughta... Orrex Feb 2015 #159

I agree with you ann--- Feb 2015 #154

Oh, please. Orrex Feb 2015 #158

That's your ann--- Feb 2015 #165

Well, why don't you educate us all as to what "civilized discourse" is. Orrex Feb 2015 #167

Discussion ann--- Feb 2015 #174

That's a circular definition. Orrex Feb 2015 #180

agree - I tend to ignore those posts with inconsequential profanity DrDan Feb 2015 #172

I just wanted to say that I feel you were under-represented in the Stooge canon Orrex Feb 2015 #157

Fuckty fucking fuck Katashi_itto Feb 2015 #160

For me, it was OPs like yours. merrily Feb 2015 #161

LOL cyberswede Feb 2015 #192

No joke. It was a few OP's scolding DUers about using "fuck" and similar words that got me cussing. merrily Feb 2015 #194

Amen. And if it works as a sort of "asshole repellent"? Awesome. PeaceNikki Feb 2015 #202

Then, the word "asshole" may itself be a sort of asshole repellent. merrily Feb 2015 #204

Fuck, yeah!! PeaceNikki Feb 2015 #207

Takes skill to really insult someone and make them appreciate it. One_Life_To_Give Feb 2015 #169

My answer: LWolf Feb 2015 #171

Great reply. It's too bad that the OP didn't *really* want to discuss or know profanity is used here PeaceNikki Feb 2015 #177

Henry Miller: "Everybody says sex is obscene ... betsuni Feb 2015 #175

From the point of view of linguistics, few words in the English language are as versatile KingCharlemagne Feb 2015 #176

afuckingmen. PeaceNikki Feb 2015 #178

I have no fucking clue what part of speech that KingCharlemagne Feb 2015 #182

it's also the universal middle name: Jesus Fucking Christ, PeaceNikki Feb 2015 #186

OT, but have you heard about the "Kee-rist' bird? So-called KingCharlemagne Feb 2015 #187

Sweet. Another fucking prude. TransitJohn Feb 2015 #179

I think this thread breaks the record for 'F' words. Paper Roses Feb 2015 #181

When you get a chance, listen to George Carlin's epic routine, "The Seven KingCharlemagne Feb 2015 #185

And yet, old timers like you remember when if someone said 'I'm gay' they'd be arrested Bluenorthwest Feb 2015 #193

Thing is, we are not children and the OP is not our mom or our authority figure. merrily Feb 2015 #201

how else can you possibly modify war criminals, torture, warrantless surveilance et al? reddread Feb 2015 #184

"...The second is more like a childish playground taunt." KansDem Feb 2015 #191

When I am mad enough to swear Liberalynn Feb 2015 #198

Oh no, this will start a DU Fuck Storm, worse than a blizzard! n/t RKP5637 Feb 2015 #203

As a serious answer jeff47 Feb 2015 #205

Yes, Shemp Howard, there is profanity here. Tsiyu Feb 2015 #206

An interesting argument, but perhaps historically inaccurate planetc Feb 2015 #219

It is glorious and noble to have high ideals for society Tsiyu Feb 2015 #227

"F*cking Bush not just wrong but ewww. Oh and Bu$h WAS fucking wrong. SammyWinstonJack Feb 2015 #210

Are you going to own up to the fact that you never REALLY wanted 'rational discussion' on this? PeaceNikki Feb 2015 #220

That's a fair question. Shemp Howard Feb 2015 #261

So, have we converted you? polly7 Feb 2015 #263

When dealing with shrink wrap, recalcitrant computers, or politicians, profanity is a useful tool. Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2015 #221

Oh look...it's Shemp Howard. Rex Feb 2015 #222

Have you discovered our Ignore feature? I'm using it on you. Buh-bye. nt valerief Feb 2015 #226

Deal with it in your own special way tabasco Feb 2015 #234

There are very few things it is possible to get a majority of DU to agree on, these days. Warren DeMontague Feb 2015 #236

Damned if I know damnedifIknow Feb 2015 #239

No, it's "Bush was fucking wrong". Alternatively, "Bush is a lying motherfucker and a mass AtheistCrusader Feb 2015 #244

Republicans are vulgar, inhumaine creatures. PowerToThePeople Feb 2015 #246

Buck Fush. roamer65 Feb 2015 #247

Never fear, Shemp Howard! Arugula Latte Feb 2015 #249

Michel de Montaigne ~ TBF Feb 2015 #262

I find homophobia, racism, sexism, etc much more offensive than the f-word Blaukraut Feb 2015 #267

Looks like you need some Sons of Butcher for that ailment... Turborama Feb 2015 #270