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edhopper

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79. Until such a time

Tue Feb 3, 2015, 05:53 PM

Feb 2015

when any effect is shown, we should go on the assumption that they are safe and effective.
Considering that the current anti-vax agenda is based on a bogus study, I would say your questions just ad fuel to their position.
"Yes, but it could be that..." without any evidence is not a good scientific inquiry.

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This message was self-deleted by its author [View all] SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2015 OP

Of course we should continue to investigate and advance epidemiology. Warren Stupidity Feb 2015 #1

I fear the harsh discourse serves no purpose. SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2015 #6

Oh so we should coddle the idiots? Warren Stupidity Feb 2015 #15

you have move away from my point SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2015 #20

"I fear the harsh discourse...." Warren Stupidity Feb 2015 #22

I hate to be so banal SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2015 #25

Twain's and Voltaire's scathing assaults on the sub-literate idiots attracted more flies than honey LanternWaste Feb 2015 #30

Who wants to attract flies? haikugal Feb 2015 #34

Individuals who tell us they hate to be banal, I'd guess... :) LanternWaste Feb 2015 #38

Twain and Voltaire... SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2015 #57

don't forget "the mysterious biogogical system", like you did our eradication of smallpox. bettyellen Feb 2015 #31

sorry - I did not get your point SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2015 #33

Bees not flies! n/t PasadenaTrudy Feb 2015 #42

I have found it true with bears also. SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2015 #49

Lol! PasadenaTrudy Feb 2015 #50

Maybe if this wasnt what was at risk, we could avoid the harsh discourse NoJusticeNoPeace Feb 2015 #76

I hope you change some minds. SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2015 #78

For those whose minds are made up, no evidence is sufficient. I remember that epidemic. Hekate Feb 2015 #88

I doubt you're going to find anyone here who argues NuclearDem Feb 2015 #2

I'm not prejudiced, but lame54 Feb 2015 #3

are you sure? SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2015 #37

Is gravity real - let's have a discussion lame54 Feb 2015 #58

Yes yes yes SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2015 #59

i didn't ask how - i asked if it exist in the first place... lame54 Feb 2015 #60

not sure what puppies have to do with it SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2015 #61

Wow... lame54 Feb 2015 #62

you like beating dead horses? SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2015 #63

I think a dead horse would catch on quicker than you lame54 Feb 2015 #64

catch on to what? SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2015 #65

The fact that gravity exists, for one n/t kcr Feb 2015 #72

stop the bad thinking SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2015 #73

You have a responsiblity to DU to provide a cite. OilemFirchen Feb 2015 #82

thank you SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2015 #83

Well that was 15 minutes of my life I'm not going to get back. GoneOffShore Feb 2015 #84

You can thank NASA SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2015 #87

I have always supported more research into vaccines. Are_grits_groceries Feb 2015 #4

NO SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2015 #7

You must think those of us who advocate harshly for vaccination are as stupid as the anti-vaxxers. MohRokTah Feb 2015 #5

This should not even be open to debate. still_one Feb 2015 #9

It is not what you do... SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2015 #10

Trying to have rational discussions with the anti-vaxxers has been the approach for over a decade MohRokTah Feb 2015 #12

Time for talk in Iraq was over... SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2015 #13

that is such bullshit, didn't you feel just a little ashamed hitting enter? Warren Stupidity Feb 2015 #17

No - not even a little SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2015 #21

... NuclearDem Feb 2015 #19

cute... but not very constructive SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2015 #23

You tried to compare vaccinations with the Iraq War. NuclearDem Feb 2015 #24

Talk about your non-sequiters! MohRokTah Feb 2015 #26

see how quickly the the thread was moved from the original idea SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2015 #28

You moved it there. Warren Stupidity Feb 2015 #41

no, my point was that you will waste time and never... SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2015 #67

No, you don't yell at a drunk. xmas74 Feb 2015 #74

There isn't a scientist worth their salt who isn't constantly trying to find more answers. Avalux Feb 2015 #8

I look forward to the day when an immunization mechanism capable of dealing with the mutable nature MohRokTah Feb 2015 #11

Yes Yes Yes SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2015 #16

ME too!! I wrote this in 2005 and would be honored if you'd read it. Avalux Feb 2015 #27

I've got 5 of those on the list. What do I win? NightWatcher Feb 2015 #14

Thank You and... SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2015 #29

We learn things all the time, and in 500 years... 3catwoman3 Feb 2015 #18

Thank you for the thoughtful and informative post. SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2015 #40

I would like there to be more vaccines, starting with a vaccine against HIV please. Bluenorthwest Feb 2015 #32

"mindlessly promote"... SidDithers Feb 2015 #35

This thread demonstrates clearly that rational thought... SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2015 #36

You argue for carrying on as we have for the past decade. MohRokTah Feb 2015 #43

I like your responce. SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2015 #46

Forced confinement in their homes with zero physical contact is adequate. eom MohRokTah Feb 2015 #55

Question: Do I think this thread is a anti vaxxer troll Johonny Feb 2015 #39

What does it feel like to be wrong? SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2015 #44

I think creating doubt about life saving vaccines is mean. I think it is meanness to foster fear Bluenorthwest Feb 2015 #68

Ok SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2015 #69

From the CDC Marrah_G Feb 2015 #45

Thank you for the thoughtful and informative post. SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2015 #48

Thank you for this list PasadenaTrudy Feb 2015 #47

I don't understand your point. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Feb 2015 #51

Two points SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2015 #52

Ankylosing Spondylitis is NOT caused by vaccines JustAnotherGen Feb 2015 #53

I hope good things for you. SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2015 #54

Yes JustAnotherGen Feb 2015 #56

Most of what's listed is genetic REP Feb 2015 #66

So he should take them all off the list! JustAnotherGen Feb 2015 #85

So you want more tolerance of anti-vaccine quackery? Marr Feb 2015 #70

NO SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2015 #71

Nothing will change their mind. If they cared about evidence, Marr Feb 2015 #75

I think it SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2015 #77

Until such a time edhopper Feb 2015 #79

Thank you for the thoughtful post. SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2015 #81

False dichotomy combined with an insult? uppityperson Feb 2015 #80

helping people change bad ideas might be as complex as the... SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2015 #86

Goading and goading and goading. You having fun with this? Hekate Feb 2015 #89

I did find it sad. SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2015 #90