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Hassin Bin Sober

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50. "It will always lead to a trial and the murderer, if convicted, will be punished."

Wed Feb 4, 2015, 04:10 PM

Feb 2015

Up until recently in just about everywhere in this country, and currently in some parts of this country, you could murder a gay person and claim he "made advances on you" and you "panicked" so you had no choice but to cave his skull in. And that was an allowable defense. And a jury would buy it.

While I'm more optimistic than I was 10 years ago, don't forget that Sarah Palin or Ted Cruise could run for President tomorrow and automatically receive in the high 40s percentage of the popular vote. And don't forget what our Christins are doing meddling in countries like Uganda. It's not like this is any fucking secret.

Sorry if people are going to see gay people murdered in other parts of the world and relate it to our experiences here. It's human nature.

And not one single fucking person in this thread said (with quotes mind you) "our Christians are exactly the same" - that right there is a steaming pile of quoted bullshit Because it just wasn't said.

Rightwingers and conservative Christian fundys does not equal all Christians. How many times does that need to be said before you will stop alleging the person at the top of this subthread said as much?

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Crime To Be Gay: ISIS Militants Throw Blindfolded Man Off Tower Block, Then Stone Him To Death [View all] Ykcutnek Feb 2015 OP

But we can't do anything about them because that's what they want us to do. stevenleser Feb 2015 #1

Yep. Turn the other cheek and dig into American history for a false equivalence. nt Ykcutnek Feb 2015 #3

Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2015 #21

So, you're thinking we should lock the Christians up as well? brooklynite Feb 2015 #23

When are we going to "do something" about Saudi Arabia? TheKentuckian Feb 2015 #52

Translated: "if we can't right every wrong everywhere, were hypocrites" which is asinine stevenleser Feb 2015 #53

Translation: I have a flailing, wholly inconsistent, only when convenient ethics and policy TheKentuckian Feb 2015 #57

Nope. Your posit doesn't work at all. I am 100% consistent. nt stevenleser Feb 2015 #58

Oh yeah, cite your war whipping for attacking Saudi Arabia. If it exists at all, it is at a far TheKentuckian Feb 2015 #59

The reason why your entire line of reasoning is wrong is because it is a false dilemma, a fallacy stevenleser Feb 2015 #60

Your expressed rationale was execution of homosexuals, that because of this TheKentuckian Feb 2015 #61

I have no doubt that Conservatives and Christian Fundys in America would do the same thing here if ChosenUnWisely Feb 2015 #2

Absolutely, just look at Matthew Shepard or any of the martyrs listed at the top of the LGBT group stevenleser Feb 2015 #4

Exactly. Or Haynes and Mary Turner a few decades earlier arcane1 Feb 2015 #30

"if they could get away with it"..... ProudToBeBlueInRhody Feb 2015 #6

So they don't break the law because it's against the law. Dreamer Tatum Feb 2015 #7

No they are too scared of going to jail for killing gays ChosenUnWisely Feb 2015 #11

No, not in a "weird" way. Dreamer Tatum Feb 2015 #54

If the cops stop enforcing the law they get away with it. Just like in the south during the 60's, ChosenUnWisely Feb 2015 #56

Really? leftynyc Feb 2015 #8

Really? Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2015 #10

So, to sum up, leftynyc Feb 2015 #13

You asked a question. Guess you don't like the answer. Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2015 #17

You didn't give me an answer leftynyc Feb 2015 #24

Plenty of em ChosenUnWisely Feb 2015 #14

Let's see leftynyc Feb 2015 #16

Sorry They are Leaders of their faith calling for the murder of gays ChosenUnWisely Feb 2015 #18

I suppose that poster never heard of Leviticus. Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2015 #20

LOL - Jimmy Swaggert? leftynyc Feb 2015 #29

Oh I don't doubt you haven't heard of these people "in at least a decade" Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2015 #38

Let's start with leftynyc Feb 2015 #43

Damn, I got some Mathhew 7:5 in my eye! Generic Other Feb 2015 #62

Leaders of their faith? leftynyc Feb 2015 #25

OMG, my gay Christian college roommate wants himself dead! onenote Feb 2015 #33

Scott Lively dsc Feb 2015 #27

Not if they didn't care about the law... MrScorpio Feb 2015 #32

Not sure what point you're trying to make leftynyc Feb 2015 #34

I was making a point about America here, obviously... MrScorpio Feb 2015 #37

Sincere question leftynyc Feb 2015 #42

Yeah, we know Muslims are evil and Christians are good Fumesucker Feb 2015 #44

Well, I'm a NYer leftynyc Feb 2015 #45

Eh, I"ve been called an Islamophobe here because I don't care for Islam's tendency toward theocracy Fumesucker Feb 2015 #47

You're right about Germany leftynyc Feb 2015 #48

Well, I worked very close leftynyc Feb 2015 #51

"It will always lead to a trial and the murderer, if convicted, will be punished." Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2015 #50

As I've mentioned before, if there's a regressing on legal protections of LGBTs... MrScorpio Feb 2015 #64

Thank YOU! smirkymonkey Feb 2015 #65

+1000 smirkymonkey Feb 2015 #36

This message was self-deleted by its author Art_from_Ark Feb 2015 #49

I'm sick of you folks who refuse to speak of heinous acts that happen because you want to talk about Bluenorthwest Feb 2015 #12

One day they'll realize leftynyc Feb 2015 #15

I missed that one on first glance. I happen to agree with the responders sentiment but you are right stevenleser Feb 2015 #31

It's "whataboutery" at its finest. Behind the Aegis Feb 2015 #35

But 'Murrrrica......!!!! ProudToBeBlueInRhody Feb 2015 #5

But Crusades and Salem Witch Trials! Nye Bevan Feb 2015 #9

Not much worse than a church double Parker!!!!!!!! Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2015 #41

Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2015 #19

An excellent post. hifiguy Feb 2015 #28

The first photo in the article is not the same man: he is dressed in blue jeans and dark jacket. mnhtnbb Feb 2015 #22

Islam is probably the worst religion in the world to gay people bluestateguy Feb 2015 #26

I don't think anyone is saying any different. Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2015 #39

Nothing more destructive in this world than Dogma AZ Progressive Feb 2015 #40

Our lives are cheap to way too many. Behind the Aegis Feb 2015 #46

Buts are fine, provided they come first. Donald Ian Rankin Feb 2015 #55

Excusing this is way past bullshit. Waiting For Everyman Feb 2015 #63