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In reply to the discussion: Flight Logs Put Clinton, Dershowitz on Pedophile Billionaire’s Sex Jet [View all]TheNutcracker
(2,104 posts)457. Now a more comprehensive story on the pedo rings and Epstein by Veterans Today KICK
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/02/07/power-pedophilia-and-the-us-government/
a snip!
Power, Pedophilia and the US Government
Posted by Veterans Today on February 7, 2015
By Jaochim Hagopian for Veterans Today
As the West charges full speed ahead towards World War III with its incendiary epicenter Ukraine, simultaneous headlines are breaking with pedophilia sex scandals implicating the highest levels of elite power and privilege involving both US presidents and the British royal family. There now exists incontrovertible evidence confirming that members of the worlds most powerful and wealthy ruling class have for decades been regularly engaging in predatory violent and sexual acts involving the most brutal and perverse crimes including ritualistic torture underage children and even murder. Yet apparently these most heinous crimes against the most powerless and defenseless in our society thousands of child victims have been preyed upon for many years with complete impunity, systematically covered up at the highest levels by the American and British governments. Yet these sophisticated child sex trafficking syndicates have never been exposed as they are now. Unfolding shocking developments on both sides of the Atlantic have finally been exposing pedophile scandals not only committed in the US and UK but apparently all around the world including Portugal, Chile, Mexico and Belgium.
While these sex scandals unravel in the West, its important to understand their geopolitical context. At the same time as these criminal shockwaves are politically rocking the global elite, they are accompanied by unprecedented frenzied activity at the highest echelons of global finance involving dozens of murders and suicides of high profile figures within the central banking cabal, an incredible amount of covert movement of gold and silver, spiraling rock bottom oil prices on the impending eve of the US dollar and petrodollar collapse dumping it as the standard international reserve currency. Also unprecedented now is the David and Goliath story of bankrupt European Union member Greece defying the longtime predatory debt practice of thievery thats been the economic paradigm of Western oligarchy.
As if to take all this mounting pressure and dog wagging heat off, with increasing desperation the West has relentlessly been engaging in a nonstop propaganda blitz of lies and false flags in order to demonize and bait Putin into all-out war after the ethnic Russian citizens of Crimea voted overwhelmingly for annexation with Russia. After investing $5 billion tampering with the internal affairs of a sovereign nation and pulling off an internationally outlawed coup overthrowing a democratically elected Ukrainian president, which Obama recently copped to, Putin merely beat the US-NATO imperialists to the punch by preventing the US Navy from taking over Russias critical fleet in Crimean port. For a full year ever since the West has been frantically trying to prod and bait nuclear powered Russia into world war. The US has caused a Ukrainian civil war and is now sending heavy arms to only enflame the already volatile hotspot.
All of these desperate, seemingly suicidal gestures by the Western oligarchs are clearly a knee jerk reaction to the major global shifting of power moving rapidly from West to East. Its been underway for a while but is now reaching critical mass. So on top of all these cataclysmic changes on the geopolitics chessboard, now that the Western Emperors been stripped naked in the face of the latest sex crimes involving the elites most powerful rich and famous, all hell is about to break loose.
The biggest names floating around as probable patrons in the billionaire Jeffrey Epstein scandal thats been recently gaining some traction are former President Bill Clinton and fifth in line to the British throne Prince Andrew. Gawker recently obtained flightlogs going back to the late 1990s through mid-2000s that place Bill Clinton repeatedly on board the private jet dubbed the Lolita Express belonging to convicted pedophile Epstein in the company of a soft-core porn actress and underage girls listed in Epsteins black book under massage. The flightlogs implicate Bill as a possible participant on board Epsteins planes where girls as young as 12 provided sexual favors for the financiers most powerful friends. Records confirm that Bill flew the friendly skies of the Lolita Express more than a dozen times over a several year period in the early 2000s. It goes without saying that Senator Hillary never once escorted Bill on these pleasure air cruises.
On one Clinton trip he traveled for a week on Epsteins planes with an entourage that included Kevin Spacey to Africa on an anti-poverty anti-AIDS tour. Among the women also on board for that weeklong tour were key Epstein employees who were the victims handlers Sarah Kellen and Ghislaine Maxwell along with soft-porn actress-masseuse Chauntee Davies.
Because of such potentially incriminating evidence that a popular former president could possibly be a pedophile, in conjunction with an already long trail of mysterious deaths surrounding dozens of suspicious suicides and murders of people at one time closely associated with the Clintons, great lengths by the feds top on down to conceal this latest damning truth from the public eye have been exerted. Yet there exists volumes of documented proof traced to high up in the Justice Department obstructing justice at every turn by disregarding and dismissing overwhelming evidence while quietly letting the guilty power broking offenders off the hook, only issuing a mere slap on the hand to the billionaire financier Jeffrey Epstein as the child molesting ringleader of the sexual human trafficking ring.
Despite Epsteins 2008 conviction on two felony counts of soliciting underage victims as well as adults for sex that would bring anyone else up to twenty years in federal prison, Epstein was allowed to freely leave jail during the day and only come back for overnight visits at his Palm Beach County Jail for a mere thirteen months of an eighteen month sentence. He had up to thirty-five victims of underage girls willing to provide incriminating testimony against him and his powerful pals who all went Scot-free. Since 2008 Epstein has escaped further punishment by simply buying thirty of his victims off as his attorneys have been busily negotiating settlements to his multiple lawsuits.
When Harvard law professor Dershowitz name came up as a frequent flyer on the Lolita Express, he plunged into full damage control in an interview with American Lawyer insisting that he has always been a faithful husband of 28 years to his wife who he claimed always traveled with him. Yet the flightlog records show while flying with Epstein and company he never was accompanied by his wife. Another discrepancy was his statement that he was only a mere professional acquaintance with Epstein because Epstein was a financial donor to Harvard and since Clintons former Secretary of Treasury Larry Summers was a close friend of Epsteins, while Summers was president of Harvard, it was only in this job related context that while Dershowitz was raising money for his and his boss top Ivy League school did he briefly interact with Epstein at all.
Records again dispute this claim as well showing that Dershowitz knew and flew with the billionaire pedophile on numerous occasions as early as 1997. Looks like the fast talking lawyer was just doing some fast talking damage control. In a more recent interview with Gawker, Dershowitz did some fast explaining when he suddenly remembered flying back in 1997 to Epsteins friends birthday party where former Israeli Prime Minister Shimon Peres and ex-astronaut-Senator John Glenn were also attendees. Again he unequivocally denied having sex with any young women. Sounds vaguely familiar to another Lolita Express frequent flyer named Bill. Wonder what Bill and Hillary Clinton were visibly arguing about at a recent public event. Perhaps how the latest bad press might be hurting her 2016 presidential hopes.
Federal prosecutors even violated the Trafficking Victims Protection Act in allowing a plea bargain agreement for the human trafficking kingpin Epstein without even informing the victims. Obviously their civil rights were violated when prosecutors chose not to try Epstein and company for human trafficking and sex crimes. The current law specifies that human traffickers who also commit aggravated sexual abuse, which of course the guilty parties repeatedly did and much more, stipulates a lifetime prison sentence. Yet a slap of Jeffreys hand while allowing everybody else to walk away free is the grossest, most obscene miscarriage of justice possible. Thankfully two of the victims joined by two more are currently still pursuing Epstein and the feds protecting all guilty parties on charges that their civil rights under the Protection Act were violated. Hopefully this can lead to the other guilty big name pedophile criminals to also get charged. But if status quo prevails, dont hold your breath.
A month ago one of the girls, Virginia Roberts, now 31, went public with her detailed account of how Epstein recruited her at age 15 forcing her for an extended three-year period into a life of sexual servitude as his sex slave, also coercing her into having sex with Epsteins high roller friends, allegedly among them royal Prince Andrew as well as renowned American attorney Alan Dershowitz. Virginia Roberts stated in her court papers that she had sex with Andrew three times in New York, London and on a Caribbean Island owned by Epstein. Fear of reprisal from the still very powerful billionaire has her fearing for her life. According to Virginias aunt, several months ago just prior to the court allegations going forward, Virginia felt she had to flee Florida and is believed to be currently living incognito somewhere in Colorado with her husband and three children.
Roberts court filing in late December 2014 specified that Jeffrey Epstein made sure his underage sex slaves provided detailed descriptions of their sexual encounters with the worlds most famous and powerful politicians, businessmen and world leaders in order to potentially blackmail them. That of course is the Modus Operandi employed by all global powerbrokers to buy insurance for both their survival longevity as well as their legal license to get away with the most evil crimes in the world. The US master at this shady practice was none other than the half century FBI Director transvestite J. Edgar Hoover.
Right after Politico published its New Years Eve bombshell making Virginia Roberts Florida lawsuit public, from the World Economic Forum in Davos, Prince Andrew vehemently denied ever having sex with any underage girls. In a rare public appearance since Roberts allegations, on Wednesday this week the Earl of York was defended as a true beacon as an ambassador for UK trade and enterprise by the President of the Royal Academy of Engineering Professor Dame Ann Dowling. Because a photo of Andrew with Epstein right after Epstein finished his jail time had surfaced in 2010, his association with the convicted pedophile embarrassed the royal family enough to force Andrew to step down from his official role as ambassador for UK trade.
much more at the link above....
a snip!
Power, Pedophilia and the US Government
Posted by Veterans Today on February 7, 2015
By Jaochim Hagopian for Veterans Today
As the West charges full speed ahead towards World War III with its incendiary epicenter Ukraine, simultaneous headlines are breaking with pedophilia sex scandals implicating the highest levels of elite power and privilege involving both US presidents and the British royal family. There now exists incontrovertible evidence confirming that members of the worlds most powerful and wealthy ruling class have for decades been regularly engaging in predatory violent and sexual acts involving the most brutal and perverse crimes including ritualistic torture underage children and even murder. Yet apparently these most heinous crimes against the most powerless and defenseless in our society thousands of child victims have been preyed upon for many years with complete impunity, systematically covered up at the highest levels by the American and British governments. Yet these sophisticated child sex trafficking syndicates have never been exposed as they are now. Unfolding shocking developments on both sides of the Atlantic have finally been exposing pedophile scandals not only committed in the US and UK but apparently all around the world including Portugal, Chile, Mexico and Belgium.
While these sex scandals unravel in the West, its important to understand their geopolitical context. At the same time as these criminal shockwaves are politically rocking the global elite, they are accompanied by unprecedented frenzied activity at the highest echelons of global finance involving dozens of murders and suicides of high profile figures within the central banking cabal, an incredible amount of covert movement of gold and silver, spiraling rock bottom oil prices on the impending eve of the US dollar and petrodollar collapse dumping it as the standard international reserve currency. Also unprecedented now is the David and Goliath story of bankrupt European Union member Greece defying the longtime predatory debt practice of thievery thats been the economic paradigm of Western oligarchy.
As if to take all this mounting pressure and dog wagging heat off, with increasing desperation the West has relentlessly been engaging in a nonstop propaganda blitz of lies and false flags in order to demonize and bait Putin into all-out war after the ethnic Russian citizens of Crimea voted overwhelmingly for annexation with Russia. After investing $5 billion tampering with the internal affairs of a sovereign nation and pulling off an internationally outlawed coup overthrowing a democratically elected Ukrainian president, which Obama recently copped to, Putin merely beat the US-NATO imperialists to the punch by preventing the US Navy from taking over Russias critical fleet in Crimean port. For a full year ever since the West has been frantically trying to prod and bait nuclear powered Russia into world war. The US has caused a Ukrainian civil war and is now sending heavy arms to only enflame the already volatile hotspot.
All of these desperate, seemingly suicidal gestures by the Western oligarchs are clearly a knee jerk reaction to the major global shifting of power moving rapidly from West to East. Its been underway for a while but is now reaching critical mass. So on top of all these cataclysmic changes on the geopolitics chessboard, now that the Western Emperors been stripped naked in the face of the latest sex crimes involving the elites most powerful rich and famous, all hell is about to break loose.
The biggest names floating around as probable patrons in the billionaire Jeffrey Epstein scandal thats been recently gaining some traction are former President Bill Clinton and fifth in line to the British throne Prince Andrew. Gawker recently obtained flightlogs going back to the late 1990s through mid-2000s that place Bill Clinton repeatedly on board the private jet dubbed the Lolita Express belonging to convicted pedophile Epstein in the company of a soft-core porn actress and underage girls listed in Epsteins black book under massage. The flightlogs implicate Bill as a possible participant on board Epsteins planes where girls as young as 12 provided sexual favors for the financiers most powerful friends. Records confirm that Bill flew the friendly skies of the Lolita Express more than a dozen times over a several year period in the early 2000s. It goes without saying that Senator Hillary never once escorted Bill on these pleasure air cruises.
On one Clinton trip he traveled for a week on Epsteins planes with an entourage that included Kevin Spacey to Africa on an anti-poverty anti-AIDS tour. Among the women also on board for that weeklong tour were key Epstein employees who were the victims handlers Sarah Kellen and Ghislaine Maxwell along with soft-porn actress-masseuse Chauntee Davies.
Because of such potentially incriminating evidence that a popular former president could possibly be a pedophile, in conjunction with an already long trail of mysterious deaths surrounding dozens of suspicious suicides and murders of people at one time closely associated with the Clintons, great lengths by the feds top on down to conceal this latest damning truth from the public eye have been exerted. Yet there exists volumes of documented proof traced to high up in the Justice Department obstructing justice at every turn by disregarding and dismissing overwhelming evidence while quietly letting the guilty power broking offenders off the hook, only issuing a mere slap on the hand to the billionaire financier Jeffrey Epstein as the child molesting ringleader of the sexual human trafficking ring.
Despite Epsteins 2008 conviction on two felony counts of soliciting underage victims as well as adults for sex that would bring anyone else up to twenty years in federal prison, Epstein was allowed to freely leave jail during the day and only come back for overnight visits at his Palm Beach County Jail for a mere thirteen months of an eighteen month sentence. He had up to thirty-five victims of underage girls willing to provide incriminating testimony against him and his powerful pals who all went Scot-free. Since 2008 Epstein has escaped further punishment by simply buying thirty of his victims off as his attorneys have been busily negotiating settlements to his multiple lawsuits.
When Harvard law professor Dershowitz name came up as a frequent flyer on the Lolita Express, he plunged into full damage control in an interview with American Lawyer insisting that he has always been a faithful husband of 28 years to his wife who he claimed always traveled with him. Yet the flightlog records show while flying with Epstein and company he never was accompanied by his wife. Another discrepancy was his statement that he was only a mere professional acquaintance with Epstein because Epstein was a financial donor to Harvard and since Clintons former Secretary of Treasury Larry Summers was a close friend of Epsteins, while Summers was president of Harvard, it was only in this job related context that while Dershowitz was raising money for his and his boss top Ivy League school did he briefly interact with Epstein at all.
Records again dispute this claim as well showing that Dershowitz knew and flew with the billionaire pedophile on numerous occasions as early as 1997. Looks like the fast talking lawyer was just doing some fast talking damage control. In a more recent interview with Gawker, Dershowitz did some fast explaining when he suddenly remembered flying back in 1997 to Epsteins friends birthday party where former Israeli Prime Minister Shimon Peres and ex-astronaut-Senator John Glenn were also attendees. Again he unequivocally denied having sex with any young women. Sounds vaguely familiar to another Lolita Express frequent flyer named Bill. Wonder what Bill and Hillary Clinton were visibly arguing about at a recent public event. Perhaps how the latest bad press might be hurting her 2016 presidential hopes.
Federal prosecutors even violated the Trafficking Victims Protection Act in allowing a plea bargain agreement for the human trafficking kingpin Epstein without even informing the victims. Obviously their civil rights were violated when prosecutors chose not to try Epstein and company for human trafficking and sex crimes. The current law specifies that human traffickers who also commit aggravated sexual abuse, which of course the guilty parties repeatedly did and much more, stipulates a lifetime prison sentence. Yet a slap of Jeffreys hand while allowing everybody else to walk away free is the grossest, most obscene miscarriage of justice possible. Thankfully two of the victims joined by two more are currently still pursuing Epstein and the feds protecting all guilty parties on charges that their civil rights under the Protection Act were violated. Hopefully this can lead to the other guilty big name pedophile criminals to also get charged. But if status quo prevails, dont hold your breath.
A month ago one of the girls, Virginia Roberts, now 31, went public with her detailed account of how Epstein recruited her at age 15 forcing her for an extended three-year period into a life of sexual servitude as his sex slave, also coercing her into having sex with Epsteins high roller friends, allegedly among them royal Prince Andrew as well as renowned American attorney Alan Dershowitz. Virginia Roberts stated in her court papers that she had sex with Andrew three times in New York, London and on a Caribbean Island owned by Epstein. Fear of reprisal from the still very powerful billionaire has her fearing for her life. According to Virginias aunt, several months ago just prior to the court allegations going forward, Virginia felt she had to flee Florida and is believed to be currently living incognito somewhere in Colorado with her husband and three children.
Roberts court filing in late December 2014 specified that Jeffrey Epstein made sure his underage sex slaves provided detailed descriptions of their sexual encounters with the worlds most famous and powerful politicians, businessmen and world leaders in order to potentially blackmail them. That of course is the Modus Operandi employed by all global powerbrokers to buy insurance for both their survival longevity as well as their legal license to get away with the most evil crimes in the world. The US master at this shady practice was none other than the half century FBI Director transvestite J. Edgar Hoover.
Right after Politico published its New Years Eve bombshell making Virginia Roberts Florida lawsuit public, from the World Economic Forum in Davos, Prince Andrew vehemently denied ever having sex with any underage girls. In a rare public appearance since Roberts allegations, on Wednesday this week the Earl of York was defended as a true beacon as an ambassador for UK trade and enterprise by the President of the Royal Academy of Engineering Professor Dame Ann Dowling. Because a photo of Andrew with Epstein right after Epstein finished his jail time had surfaced in 2010, his association with the convicted pedophile embarrassed the royal family enough to force Andrew to step down from his official role as ambassador for UK trade.
much more at the link above....
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Flight Logs Put Clinton, Dershowitz on Pedophile Billionaire’s Sex Jet [View all]
TheNutcracker
Jan 2015
OP
Clinton has been named as one of Epstein's closest friends, this crapola has come up before
TheNutcracker
Jan 2015
#1
I'm not going to go through this again with him, them-either way, true or not his assocations were
appalachiablue
Jan 2015
#83
Yes it really brings out strong feelings, wives get the shame, shun, anger a lot. Also cuz he's
appalachiablue
Jan 2015
#220
What came up first are crappy sources. I meant something more credible than that.
merrily
Jan 2015
#392
Thanks for that implication, but I am not operating off a fairy tale or a notion.
merrily
Jan 2015
#398
I don't think Hillary is to blame at all. But he's her husband, with a long, difficult past of
appalachiablue
Jan 2015
#199
See, now, you just articulated what I was thinking about all this brouhaha.
chervilant
Jan 2015
#401
Absolutely. I'm fairly new, how does this get kicked to The Greatest? Just from more recs?
appalachiablue
Jan 2015
#92
After 5 recs it goes onto the greatest page....so many just review that page daily.
TheNutcracker
Jan 2015
#173
That's quite the non-sequitur. "The media" isn't hiding this; I'm sure FOX will be all over it ...
Hekate
Jan 2015
#230
Hillary didnt do this....she should file for a legal separation if this is true
adigal
Jan 2015
#135
Hillary knew about it and enabled it, just as she did throughout her marriage.
Divernan
Jan 2015
#177
Many others with the same problems have have held the WH and been in all walks and times
appalachiablue
Jan 2015
#217
I think there was even a scandal about Eisenhower and a member of his Army staff.
JDPriestly
Jan 2015
#380
Eisenhower had a realtionship with Kay Summersby of the Brit. Transport Corps who was his
appalachiablue
Jan 2015
#389
With all she's been through, and at her age she might be so weary that the I'd like to kill him
appalachiablue
Jan 2015
#204
Not my biggest reason, but I am sick of having this stuff come up again and again.
merrily
Jan 2015
#338
True. But if Monica Lewinsky had not wanted the notoriety, she would not have mentioned
JDPriestly
Jan 2015
#382
ughh. She saved the sheets so she could brag about her conquest later. That is my opinion.
JDPriestly
Jan 2015
#424
Thanks for this, very interesting. Sure, vamp Monica tempted sweet Willy. Right. I recall
appalachiablue
Jan 2015
#237
If Lewinsky had not cherished the dress with HIS semen on it, there would have been less
JDPriestly
Jan 2015
#381
Bill has a bigger problem than I realized. Just a photo like this looks bad politically, let alone
ND-Dem
Jan 2015
#21
You made it sound like he had his hands on her breasts. Instead he is holding her upper arm.
Hekate
Jan 2015
#231
Thank you. I appreciate the correction. That's Tricia Nixon Cox's soon to be ex-daughter-in-law?
ND-Dem
Jan 2015
#300
Agree, sadly all these rich and powerful people are pretty disgusting, I am learning more and
NoJusticeNoPeace
Jan 2015
#77
Both will, so dont vote for either, and let the one who will kill your pregnant sister in office
NoJusticeNoPeace
Jan 2015
#155
You're confusing me. Are you planning to stay home and not vote, or just telling others to do so?
Hekate
Jan 2015
#232
It is not us who will blame Hillary but it is stupid to believe that the Rs won't and even more to
jwirr
Jan 2015
#127
I believe Dershowitz. Until proven otherwise, I will believe the denials of Dershowitz and of
JDPriestly
Jan 2015
#121
The Democratic Party has been divided for some time now. The Democratic Wing
rhett o rick
Jan 2015
#137
It's a serious accusation and should not be believed unless absolutely proven.
JDPriestly
Jan 2015
#384
Flight logs don't lie. Clinton also flew with him recently after the girl filed the charges.
TheNutcracker
Jan 2015
#6
Well, I disagree. I don't think Hillary's candicacy should be sunk because Bill flew with some
Agnosticsherbet
Jan 2015
#284
If you objectioin is to Secretary Clinton, President Obama, and President Clinton's ecomomic
Agnosticsherbet
Jan 2015
#287
I am sure Republians will be happy to know that tarring Hillary with Bill's plane ticket will work.
Agnosticsherbet
Jan 2015
#290
I prefer to talk policy rather than smear a woman with her husbands actions.
Agnosticsherbet
Jan 2015
#293
But it's REPUBLICANS who Hillary will be running against in General Election
99th_Monkey
Jan 2015
#294
Her policies and ideas is what we should look at when we make a decidison about who to support.
Agnosticsherbet
Jan 2015
#414
No, not disqualify her. But she will be hammered and people will tire of it and NOT VOTE 4 HILLARY
TheNutcracker
Jan 2015
#413
Well, I suppose a sexist based attack on her because of something her husband may or may not
Agnosticsherbet
Jan 2015
#415
+10. The Bottom Line politically for Hillary & Dems, the rest noise even if some's unfair & untrue.
appalachiablue
Jan 2015
#75
If it was only that simple & rational. He's not some obscure insurance man in Indiana who strayed
appalachiablue
Jan 2015
#233
Tell that to the voters...Bill did it...not Hillary. Oh, and will she be hiding Bill on the trail?
TheNutcracker
Feb 2015
#466
Yes Johnnie Boy, golden hair looks kinda stable in hindsight. What a great woman Eliz. Edwards.
appalachiablue
Jan 2015
#221
Could he have involved all these well known men with the idea that he would be safe even if
jwirr
Jan 2015
#134
This is nothing more than a pilot recording unnecessary information in his personal logbook
Major Nikon
Jan 2015
#215
Totally. I will never forgive him for being led around by his dick like that.
bemildred
Jan 2015
#42
+100. Hasn't learned & doesn't care about the damage & fallout to us. Thanks Bubba.
appalachiablue
Jan 2015
#104
Hell, the mainstream media won't even talk about it unless a Republican politician...
hunter
Jan 2015
#87
A pedophile is a man or woman who is attracted to or has sexual relations...
DemocratSinceBirth
Jan 2015
#25
Let me preface my remarks by saying adults having sex with minors is mala per se.
DemocratSinceBirth
Jan 2015
#29
"it is what it is" but you and I can take solace in the fact these attempts will fail...
DemocratSinceBirth
Jan 2015
#35
Whether the story has any truth (and even if Clinton rode in that plane, it does not mean
JDPriestly
Jan 2015
#379
You are demanding fairness. But have Republicans ever given Democrats fairness.
JDPriestly
Jan 2015
#32
Yes, these witch hunts against the Clintons have been unfailingly effective...
DemocratSinceBirth
Jan 2015
#34
You are a good student. Pats LawdeeDah on head. Gives him or her a cookie.
DemocratSinceBirth
Jan 2015
#101
Larry Summers, Kevin Spacey, Chris Tucker and Gayle Smith* were on the manifest?
DemocratSinceBirth
Jan 2015
#107
"Is Spacey running for office? Wow, guess House of Cards gives him an edge"
DemocratSinceBirth
Jan 2015
#116
OK. Three scenarios are possible here. (Maybe more but I see three right away.)
JDPriestly
Jan 2015
#113
Yet with all this Bill Clinton has a current favorability rating of 64%...
DemocratSinceBirth
Jan 2015
#118
I don't think that Kerry or Gore Or Mondale were even questioned about their sex lives or
JDPriestly
Jan 2015
#391
I have never lost an argument. My record is as pristine as this fella:
DemocratSinceBirth
Jan 2015
#119
you're saying that hilary associating with her husband is the same as an actor unknowingly
ND-Dem
Jan 2015
#125
so hilary and bill are now analogous to two strangers on a plane? yeah, i guess i miss your
ND-Dem
Jan 2015
#129
so bill's in the habit of hopping on planes with people who haven't been vetted? i doubt it.
ND-Dem
Jan 2015
#139
And their affiliation ended well before his activities were known./NT
DemocratSinceBirth
Jan 2015
#144
When did it end, exactly? That's a point I've been unable to find any discussion of.
ND-Dem
Jan 2015
#152
Ah, would explain the education system and the falling behind in world standards.
LawDeeDah
Jan 2015
#145
Gads, this is not about a sex life vs. privacy issue! This is about sex slaves and minors!!!!!!!
TheNutcracker
Feb 2015
#471
His accusations, almost entirely false, held Americans in suspense. He ruined many lives, but
JDPriestly
Jan 2015
#385
+1000. Regardless of Repugs doing the same, they control most $, media & spin. In his
appalachiablue
Jan 2015
#78
I am not sure if that is the no brainier you suggest. Are people going to be more concerned with
still_one
Jan 2015
#225
fine, have it your way - a candidate whose husband was involved with a pedophile is no big deal.
LawDeeDah
Jan 2015
#227
I didn't say it would or would not, I said you cannot predict. Bill Clinton had a BJ in the oval
still_one
Jan 2015
#234
I hope this isn't the reason the country doesn't want HRC. She has her own baggage. nm
rhett o rick
Jan 2015
#140
Blaming "the vast right wing conspiracy" on TV for "lying" about Monica to hurt her poor dear hubby
merrily
Jan 2015
#344
Teen ‘Sex Slave’ Reveals Alleged Details Of Bill Clinton’s Trip To Jeffrey Epstein’s Orgy Island
PoliticAverse
Jan 2015
#38
The 'prooogreeessssivvves' on this thread believe all of this story... except that part. LOL.
wyldwolf
Jan 2015
#50
Many of the so called progressives were as enamored of the Lewinski brouhaha...
DemocratSinceBirth
Jan 2015
#59
But WHY hang out with a perv? Again and again...when you wife wants to be the President????
TheNutcracker
Feb 2015
#437
Thanks for mentioning Thomas's book Gideon's Spies.. I have been meaning to read it..
2banon
Jan 2015
#84
big fucking deal and so what! there are things people can argue with this, but big fucking deal?
seabeyond
Jan 2015
#49
I subscribe to the "if you look under thirty" policy you need to provide identification.
DemocratSinceBirth
Jan 2015
#57
"I did Not have sex with that woman". Not even remotely since sex only involves intercourse,
appalachiablue
Jan 2015
#156
No I didn't write that Epstein is a pedophile, you did. From your posts, you are very
appalachiablue
Jan 2015
#180
sorry, but you're not making any sense. And I didn't write that. I wrote the opposite
fishwax
Jan 2015
#196
Why on earth are you asking if I think Clinton is a pedophile based on the Lewinsky lie he told to
appalachiablue
Jan 2015
#203
That's interesting about concern for victims and their healing & coping. 5 years ago I found
appalachiablue
Jan 2015
#235
Epstein own sister said after 15 Epstein no longer wanted them for himself. Too old 15 is for him.
TheNutcracker
Jan 2015
#356
Reason number 3,487 this crazy family has zero business even considering a WH run.
tridim
Jan 2015
#58
Absolutely. And for those that separate Hillary and Bill like they were strangers
LawDeeDah
Jan 2015
#72
Unless you count JetBlue flights to Florida as "sex jets", I would have to say no.
Nye Bevan
Jan 2015
#154
What to call the looney guy on Virgin Air who was going at it solo in the aisle & attendants had
appalachiablue
Jan 2015
#187
Yeah I remember all that, too well. And the shocker, ugly Jenifer Flowers six year Texas
appalachiablue
Jan 2015
#168
Systematic pedophilia is one of my personal, "unsubstantiated" conspiracies about the powerful.
RadiationTherapy
Jan 2015
#81
Not making it up. I don't think it's any big deal however. But this guy has an agenda
OKNancy
Jan 2015
#157
I was there, Bill WAS the "progressive savior" we voted for, then didn't get.
RiverLover
Jan 2015
#174
But it was fact, I was there. Just b/c Jerry Brown was considered more left, doesn't
RiverLover
Jan 2015
#183
You'll find very few Democrats who thought Bill Clinton was a progressive saviour
wyldwolf
Jan 2015
#184
Bill Clinton campaigned as a centrist. If you thought he was a progressive savior ...
wyldwolf
Jan 2015
#186
We need something to keep us entertained until the next round of polls...
DemocratSinceBirth
Jan 2015
#176
Not the first time Clinton associated with Epstein before or after his arrest.
TheNutcracker
Jan 2015
#246
The powerful think they are impervious. They buy their way out of things us ordinary peasants can't.
LawDeeDah
Jan 2015
#386
Monica all over again? She just came out with a book and is ready to hit the trail too!
TheNutcracker
Jan 2015
#403
Apparently Epstein had 21 different phone numbers for Clinton on “burner phones.”
LawDeeDah
Jan 2015
#241
are you host or mirt? i know you are often. are you using the discussion in that exclusive group
seabeyond
Jan 2015
#263
wtf are you talking about? i do not want to hunt the info, if you are mirt. i asked. i am also
seabeyond
Jan 2015
#265
if this is indicative of you thinking process, it is a fail. you walked into this thread and made
seabeyond
Jan 2015
#278
and yet, you continue to ignore the question, if you use your mirt privilege to call out a poster.
seabeyond
Jan 2015
#281
which was the first thing i asked on this stupid little subthread. and asked again, and again.
seabeyond
Jan 2015
#289
yes. i know it is posted. i didnt know where. i didnt want to hunt. hence, a simple question.
seabeyond
Jan 2015
#332
you can play this silly game thru out this subthread, but answering a simple question is "work"
seabeyond
Jan 2015
#364
I know of someone on another board now that was driven away from here because
LawDeeDah
Jan 2015
#366
Good to see you're admitting your obsession with this story is guilt by association.
wyldwolf
Jan 2015
#341
Me thinking Hillary is unfit for Presidency is not retaliating against attacks on Obama.
LawDeeDah
Jan 2015
#343
No, just fond memories of a DU not so infested with right wing talking points
wyldwolf
Jan 2015
#329
and you hold this same point of view when the President, for example, is called a Piece of Shit
LawDeeDah
Jan 2015
#334
No. but I notice how the rules for Hillary and the rules for Obama are quite different.
LawDeeDah
Jan 2015
#345
I'm sick of hearing about Clinton's escapades, but I don't know how reliable flight logs are.
merrily
Jan 2015
#348
Epstein had 26 phone numbers for Bill Clinton. That is NOT just an aquaintance!
TheNutcracker
Jan 2015
#357
APPARENTLY they were 'burner' phones - used to avoid leaving trails in illegal activities.
LawDeeDah
Jan 2015
#371
where we remember Gary Hart, Willie Horton and all the other lessons conveniently forgot.
reddread
Jan 2015
#383
Don't count on it. All the campaign defense is so co$tly. Koch will hit every voter mailbox!
TheNutcracker
Jan 2015
#404
My oh my...this is the most interesting thread of the year, but not because of the topic.
Rex
Jan 2015
#408
PS. That rumor came from Politico, saying she wanted to work on her message
TheNutcracker
Jan 2015
#420
Weekend kickoff! Dershowitz should tell the truth, or it will continue to spread!
TheNutcracker
Jan 2015
#426
I read the court complaint, you can't make up what she said. Says had sex with Dersh several times!
TheNutcracker
Jan 2015
#431
i will put down $100 that this is another crazy clinton conspiracy
La Lioness Priyanka
Jan 2015
#430
The last time Epstein was popped it was said and shown he's a very close friend of Bill's.
TheNutcracker
Jan 2015
#432
Not so much about what they have on Clinton other than continued association with a known pedo
TheNutcracker
Feb 2015
#435
Monday kick along with the clinton poll showing lackluster support against Warren
TheNutcracker
Feb 2015
#439
Laugh all you want. This is not the first time Clinton has been associated with this known perv
TheNutcracker
Feb 2015
#445
But it's the first time for Al and Tipper Gore. And Chris Rock and Kevin Spacey... maybe...
wyldwolf
Feb 2015
#448
Eccentric investor? That's too coy by half. The guy is a convicted pedophile. It isn't slander to
Monk06
Feb 2015
#447
The media is involved as well. All tools.....of control. Just like the pics Epstein has!!
TheNutcracker
Feb 2015
#449
Start naming the republicans who participated in Epstiens brothel.
Dont call me Shirley
Feb 2015
#451
As good as a manager as he was , he's a misanthrope of the highest order
orpupilofnature57
Feb 2015
#452
Saturday kick....this case will be a problem when we least want it to be....
TheNutcracker
Feb 2015
#455
Now a more comprehensive story on the pedo rings and Epstein by Veterans Today KICK
TheNutcracker
Feb 2015
#457
The general population has not read this stuff....been going on since the 80's!
TheNutcracker
Feb 2015
#460
Gawker did the story here. The Vet Today is a collage of other MSM news story over the years
TheNutcracker
Feb 2015
#464
PS. What does your comment have to do with Prince Andrew? Or Clinton continuing his relationship
TheNutcracker
Feb 2015
#465
Now there's more here. The 'money bomb' and Clinton's 81million connection!
TheNutcracker
Feb 2015
#469
Thursday kick, lets address THIS NOW....media. What are they waiting for?
TheNutcracker
Feb 2015
#470
More coming out when court case progresses....it will be a real shit show.
TheNutcracker
Feb 2015
#475
It's not just Gawker! This will come out when it's going to hurt the most; count on it!
TheNutcracker
Feb 2015
#485
Bill Clinton has close ties to a man who's been arrested for human trafficking BEFORE. Faux wannabe?
TheNutcracker
Feb 2015
#488