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napi21

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29. Absolutely! I'm FAR from "upper middle class",

Sun Feb 8, 2015, 03:55 PM

Feb 2015

but my husband & I both have 401K'.s. He was a meat cutter at a supermarket chain, and I was an accountant for a small cosmetic mfg. Collectively we grossed $55,000 when we retired in 2010 We don't have a fortune in our 401K's. Somewhere around $35.000-$40,000. We did pay off our house while we were still working and now are living on SS and saving the 401k $$ for emergencies. When the Bush recession hit, we lost over 1/2 of our $$. The Obama economy has managed to gain bain back all our losses and even increased what we had.

I sure don't see us as upper-middle class, but the good stock market has helped us, and all those in similar circumstances.

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Most voters say the country is on the wrong track, & their situation & economy has not improved [View all] ND-Dem Feb 2015 OP

Obama and Black Americans: the Paradox of Hope ND-Dem Feb 2015 #1

The country is on a track? Downwinder Feb 2015 #2

the wrong one, if the majority of american voters is to be believed. ND-Dem Feb 2015 #5

Mired in a snowdrift, not going anywhere. Downwinder Feb 2015 #6

"White men voted Republican by 64-34" BlueJazz Feb 2015 #3

but the democrat won. ND-Dem Feb 2015 #4

White men still vote in the Republicans year after year. BlueJazz Feb 2015 #7

but the democrat won. rather tidily. ND-Dem Feb 2015 #8

I can't argue with that. BlueJazz Feb 2015 #28

Who took this poll? It talks about exit polls 2014? Low turnout does not make this a poll of how the jwirr Feb 2015 #9

I think the information is all there. ND-Dem Feb 2015 #10

I agree with your last sentence. jwirr Feb 2015 #13

.. and those who vote in off-years are way more Republican nt 99th_Monkey Feb 2015 #15

"What were the questions asked" is always a good start when looking at a poll bhikkhu Feb 2015 #33

here you go: starts bottom of page 5. you're welcome. ND-Dem Feb 2015 #34

That's for a poll dated 1/15/15. The OP is dated 9/5/14. bhikkhu Feb 2015 #37

The polling questions are the same. Earlier poll results for the same questions are dated, e.g. ND-Dem Feb 2015 #38

That is some explanation, then bhikkhu Feb 2015 #43

the questions are there at the bottom of page 5, as i've already told you in your other post asking ND-Dem Feb 2015 #50

Again, not to be petty, but the link is from Jan 2015, while the article is Nov 2014. bhikkhu Feb 2015 #53

again, I have no idea what you're talking about. the link is from 1/15, and at the bottom of ND-Dem Feb 2015 #55

The OP is an article dated November 2014. The link you gave me is dated January 2015. bhikkhu Feb 2015 #57

The original link was about a poll taken 11/14. The second link contains all the questions from ND-Dem Feb 2015 #59

Perhaps just enjoying the humor of the divergent headlines bhikkhu Feb 2015 #62

I'm sure you could find it yourself, if you really cared. ND-Dem Feb 2015 #63

If the journalism were better, I wouldn't have to look very hard bhikkhu Feb 2015 #65

I don't know who Lange Research Associates is, but I disagree with their results. napi21 Feb 2015 #11

Money is most common stress factor for US adults ND-Dem Feb 2015 #12

Rasmussen? nt msanthrope Feb 2015 #16

The "middle class" doesn't have 401Ks for the most part. The *upper middle class* does, ND-Dem Feb 2015 #14

Uh what? VanillaRhapsody Feb 2015 #24

According to the survey, less than half, or about 45 percent of workers, do participate in a 401(k) ND-Dem Feb 2015 #25

that is a shit load more than none... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2015 #30

i didn't say "none" i said most middle class people don't. and i stand by that. ND-Dem Feb 2015 #31

Absolutely! I'm FAR from "upper middle class", napi21 Feb 2015 #29

I have 401k, certainly not "upper middle class" Terra Alta Feb 2015 #44

The "Recovery" is bullshit propaganda. woo me with science Feb 2015 #26

you're out of touch. ND-Dem Feb 2015 #35

This is from last year.....do you have anything more recent? nt msanthrope Feb 2015 #17

it's from november 2014. that's < 3 months ago. ND-Dem Feb 2015 #18

Ah...exit polling from 2014. Nothing fresher? nt msanthrope Feb 2015 #21

More recent: "Improving Economy Gives Obama His Game Back" bhikkhu Feb 2015 #40

well, basically because the first poll was what i found first, and the only reason you know ND-Dem Feb 2015 #47

No, this is always positioned as in / out of power. BOTH parties headed in wrong direction on point Feb 2015 #19

yes, no love lost for either party. but it's the country that's said to be heading in the wrong ND-Dem Feb 2015 #20

And yet they went out and spent more over Christmas than they have in years. Egnever Feb 2015 #22

maybe because it's been "years" since the recession started in 2008? maybe because average spending ND-Dem Feb 2015 #23

K&R The "Recovery" is Bullshit Propaganda. woo me with science Feb 2015 #27

What questions were asked? bhikkhu Feb 2015 #32

see the answer to your post 33, where you asked the same question. it must have weighed ND-Dem Feb 2015 #36

Facts and evidence - two of my peccadillos bhikkhu Feb 2015 #46

not sure what a pecidillo is, but a peccadillo is a minor sin or petty offense. ND-Dem Feb 2015 #48

Fixed my mispelling bhikkhu Feb 2015 #51

Not suprising Ramses Feb 2015 #39

So what is your solution? Kingofalldems Feb 2015 #41

Full-time employment is scarce. Wages are stagnant. Gap between rich and poor is growing. davidn3600 Feb 2015 #42

The total number of full-time US workers is at a record high bhikkhu Feb 2015 #49

as of when? ND-Dem Feb 2015 #52

Last month, give or take - this is more recent: bhikkhu Feb 2015 #56

That says total non-farm employment, not total full-time employment. ND-Dem Feb 2015 #58

You're right. Its easy to become mired in the amounts of data bhikkhu Feb 2015 #61

Well, thanks for admitting you were wrong in that regard, at least. However, the general ND-Dem Feb 2015 #64

do you agree with "most voters" that the country is on the wrong track? Terra Alta Feb 2015 #45

its meaningless drray23 Feb 2015 #54

Fortunately, this poll (and most polls that ask such questions) word the question the same ND-Dem Feb 2015 #60