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TrollBuster9090

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21. Again, you're quoting from an anti-vaccine website. Why not just link me to the CDC website where
Wed Feb 11, 2015, 04:41 PM
Feb 2015

it says "the CDC recommends that children get 69 doses of 16 vaccines," or just an official website from ONE STATE that mandates children get 29 doses of nine vaccines to attend kindergarden? Just show me ONE STATE that mandates 29 doses of nine vaccines to attend kindergarden.

The problem is that your original chart from J. B. Handley tried to correlate 36 "mandatory" vaccines before age five with the highest infant mortality rate. (Your original comment was regarding Sweden vs. USA) In fact, the USA does not mandate anywhere NEAR 36 vaccines, and what Handley has obviously done is add together all the vaccines that are mandated in ANY state (and probably not even universally-- ie- many States mandate nurses get HEP B vaccinations, but not children, obviously), to come up with the number 36. When, in fact, most States mandate two or three children's vaccines at the most (not 36), while Sweden DOES mandate all 11. If Handley cooked up a deceptive chart like that, there's no reason to believe NVIC wouldn't do the same thing.

So, if you're going to make a claim that the CDC recommends 69 doses of 16 vaccines, or that 'most states mandate 29 doses of nine vaccines before kindergarden' you'll have to link to either the CDC, or a State website that claims that. Not a second hand quote from an anti-vaccine advocacy group.

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Interesting malthaussen Jan 2015 #1
Sweden has a better educational system, so not so many scientifically ignorant masses FLPanhandle Jan 2015 #2
Except the anti-vaxxers think they are scientifically enlighted. dilby Jan 2015 #3
Not much of a community in the US The2ndWheel Jan 2015 #4
In 1962, immunization was a community affair. no_hypocrisy Jan 2015 #6
I remember that. Aristus Jan 2015 #12
SOCIAL ... ism. GeorgeGist Jan 2015 #5
*gasp* Oh noes! RedCappedBandit Jan 2015 #7
And yet The Netherlands and Canada both have low vaccine rates causing outbreaks that make the US Bluenorthwest Jan 2015 #8
I never get a flu shot. Yea, American's are more individualistic and independent dissentient Jan 2015 #9
Americans don't care about the public good anymore AZ Progressive Jan 2015 #10
In Sweden the shadow government will not use public vaccinations for nefarious purposes. kickysnana Jan 2015 #11
Sweden? Have you compared the Swedish and American immunization schedules? Check it out. proverbialwisdom Jan 2015 #13
There are new vaccines that have been developed BrotherIvan Jan 2015 #15
The valid point being missed is that "...even pro-vaccine parents have a threshold of compliance." proverbialwisdom Jan 2015 #16
Mortality rates have a lot more causes than preventable diseases. Brickbat Jan 2015 #17
Yes, of course. Still, the chart counters a false meme. (nt) proverbialwisdom Jan 2015 #18
I'm no longer allowed to respond to you on the hidden thread (sorry it wasn't me :) ) but TrollBuster9090 Feb 2015 #19
Risky, the best source I found for this esoteric info (NVIC) triggered an 'automatic' hide once. proverbialwisdom Feb 2015 #20
Again, you're quoting from an anti-vaccine website. Why not just link me to the CDC website where TrollBuster9090 Feb 2015 #21
I suspect NVIC is the more up-to-date source. To the best of my knowledge, cool searchable CDC site proverbialwisdom Feb 2015 #22
Thanks. It's a mess. It'll take me some time to confirm or refute. TrollBuster9090 Feb 2015 #23
Children had 24 doses birth-18 yrs in 80s; now same # is mandated for childcare eligibility (Offit). proverbialwisdom Feb 2015 #24
Twitter links. proverbialwisdom Feb 2015 #25
This message was self-deleted by its author proverbialwisdom Jan 2015 #14
We don't seem to teach citizen responsibility anymore. aquart Feb 2015 #26
Wrong framing, IMO. proverbialwisdom Feb 2015 #28
Bloomberg Businessweek mentioned Sweden in a recent article on parental leave. proverbialwisdom Feb 2015 #27
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