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NCTraveler

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18. Putin being a right winger is unsupported in your mind?

Tue Feb 17, 2015, 09:42 AM

Feb 2015

I am not being duped. I read a variety of news sources. Not just rt. Only a very select few here rely on propaganda for their only news. That is how we have ended up with good progressives supporting one right wing government over another. Your refusal to look at the issue in a fair manner is clear.

"People in this country (and in the West generally) must wake up to the fact they are being lied to by interests who stand to gain (or so they imagine) by increased hostilities in eastern Ukraine. This kind of false information is all the war-mongers have ever presented us with regarding their fanciful "Russian invasion of Ukraine!"

I truly don't think anyone can believe the things you write. Here is a little exercise: Does Putting stand to gain anything? You seem to think everyone else is and acting as if one of the wealthiest, most powerful, right wing fascists in the world is some kind of victim.

But lets be real. You actually just stated you don't think Putin is a right winger. You have no ground left to stand on. You have been fooled to the point you think that is "unsupported." KGB fascist love to you brother.

The Germans are the grown ups in the room. Thanks to them good might be happening. Glad they don't bow down to Putin. Seems some want to muddy the waters and keep the propaganda of war going on. Like is being done in your ops.

Merkel, Putin, Poroshenko agree steps on ceasefire: Germany

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/merkel-putin-poroshenko-agree-steps-on-ceasefire-germany/ar-BBhETzq

Here is another great journalistic outlet for you. Hard hitting stuff.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room

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German TV airs faked "Russian tanks in Ukraine" film clip. [View all] another_liberal Feb 2015 OP

Good grief, these fake clips and photographs are showing up everywhere. polly7 Feb 2015 #1

Well everyone is taking a real hard look OverseaVisitor Feb 2015 #3

Russia's people are being punished for the successful Western act of polly7 Feb 2015 #4

I know OverseaVisitor Feb 2015 #6

"Count da money" polly7 Feb 2015 #7

Depend Russia weird country OverseaVisitor Feb 2015 #11

When the war-mongers have so much control over what people are told about their World . . . another_liberal Feb 2015 #17

Well said. polly7 Feb 2015 #20

I know, Putin should leave the day-to-day operations of RT to a better propaganda minister snooper2 Feb 2015 #25

Excellent HERVEPA Feb 2015 #51

Some other fake stuff is showing up everywhere as well malaise Feb 2015 #23

Senator Inhofes fake photos are being spread around, anything to get war back on track. Fred Sanders Feb 2015 #34

What happened to the english-speaking guys in US-uniforms fighting in Ukraine? DetlefK Feb 2015 #2

... SidDithers Feb 2015 #5

Lots of propoganda going around. NCTraveler Feb 2015 #8

According to the OP, Putin is as pure as the new fallen snow. hobbit709 Feb 2015 #10

Yup... SidDithers Feb 2015 #12

nope... polly7 Feb 2015 #15

Here, I made it just for you polly... SidDithers Feb 2015 #16

Aww ........ how sweet. polly7 Feb 2015 #19

You might want to check Putin's record then. mythology Feb 2015 #58

I hear ya. I just don't think they believe what they are selling. NCTraveler Feb 2015 #13

So what do you think of using fake photos to drum up support for WAR? Remember the FAKE PHOTOS sabrina 1 Feb 2015 #40

And you can't see the difference? FBaggins Feb 2015 #44

Yes I am claiming that this is the case here. Did you miss Sen. Inhofe's apology for using fake Ukr sabrina 1 Feb 2015 #50

You're really claiming that? FBaggins Feb 2015 #52

And you believe Inhofe trying to wriggle out of being caught red-handed, simply sabrina 1 Feb 2015 #53

Nope. I don't have to believe Inhofe FBaggins Feb 2015 #57

So you are refusing to accept the PROVABLE facts that we are BEING LIED to again sabrina 1 Feb 2015 #59

There have been no such "provable facts" FBaggins Feb 2015 #62

We are being lied to and now they have been caught. And you can close your eyes sabrina 1 Feb 2015 #66

We HAVE been lied to... repeatedly. FBaggins Feb 2015 #69

Everyone is lying, including CSpan and the NYT et al. Lol! Keep trying to sell sabrina 1 Feb 2015 #71

You keep trying to dodge that it's our President who you claim is lying FBaggins Feb 2015 #72

A major German news source aired faked footage . . . another_liberal Feb 2015 #14

Putin being a right winger is unsupported in your mind? NCTraveler Feb 2015 #18

we ended up with progressives supporting right wing governments because only a ND-Dem Feb 2015 #27

It was an extremely basic response. NCTraveler Feb 2015 #36

I am quite certain the Russian President does not fit that description . . . another_liberal Feb 2015 #28

Warmongering homophobic oligarch. NuclearDem Feb 2015 #32

You are correct. NCTraveler Feb 2015 #35

if the germans are grown-ups, why is their media airing fake photos? ND-Dem Feb 2015 #29

The Germans aren't airing fake photos. NCTraveler Feb 2015 #33

time will tell. ND-Dem Feb 2015 #37

German tv stations have been caught several times reorg Feb 2015 #75

Pretty arrogant of you to say. NCTraveler Feb 2015 #79

Your Russia Today propaganda stuff is full of shit. HERVEPA Feb 2015 #21

Did it really? FBaggins Feb 2015 #22

I believe the Germans have already admitted the fact . . . another_liberal Feb 2015 #24

That should be easy enough for you to back up FBaggins Feb 2015 #26

Hand-waving indeed? another_liberal Feb 2015 #68

actually, it is very easy to back up reorg Feb 2015 #74

"The T72 tank is Russian made, according to Wikipedia Ukraine has more than 1000 of them. " FBaggins Feb 2015 #77

The last resort of those who do not want to discuss the obvious, 'look over there, at the sabrina 1 Feb 2015 #41

For someone who spends an almost obsessive amount of time NuclearDem Feb 2015 #46

Correction, criticizing lies told by the Corporate Media to drag this country into war. sabrina 1 Feb 2015 #47

Too bad for the propagandists and their sympathizers there is still net neutrality, makes their job very tough these days. Fred Sanders Feb 2015 #49

But RT would never lead us astray! NuclearDem Feb 2015 #64

K&R woo me with science Feb 2015 #9

Interesting tidbit I learned Man from Pickens Feb 2015 #30

Thank you for posting with that information . . . another_liberal Feb 2015 #67

That's nice Egnever Feb 2015 #31

For someone whoring links from RT, TASS, LIFE News, Sputnik, etc. on an hourly basis Blue_Tires Feb 2015 #38

Are you denying that fake photos have been shown and that apologies have already been made sabrina 1 Feb 2015 #43

You keep saying photos, but Inhofe only apologized for one photo. GGJohn Feb 2015 #54

RT to German TV: There's a speck of wood in your eye. NuclearDem Feb 2015 #39

Lol! FBaggins Feb 2015 #42

Not just a speck, and there's a huge tree in Repub Inhofe's eye also, after showing FAKE PHOTOS to sabrina 1 Feb 2015 #45

You keep using the plural of that word FBaggins Feb 2015 #48

Is this sufficient evidence? Karmadillo Feb 2015 #55

Evidence of what? FBaggins Feb 2015 #56

My bad. I was responding to the question you asked in your post. I Karmadillo Feb 2015 #60

Yes. It was a silly assumption FBaggins Feb 2015 #63

So false photos are valid in proving underlying assumed truth? Karmadillo Feb 2015 #65

Nope... FBaggins Feb 2015 #70

so why don't you present some of that 'hard evidence' finally reorg Feb 2015 #76

It's ridiculous to pretend that it doesn't exist FBaggins Feb 2015 #78

In war, truth is the first casualty. Aeschylus Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2015 #61

Russia Update: TASS, RT Disavow Journalist Who Laughs as Militants Fire on Ukrainians Blue_Tires Feb 2015 #73