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62. On Warren 'pushing others to the left' it really should be noted that many Democrats are to her

Wed Feb 25, 2015, 08:10 PM

Feb 2015

left and have long been so. My own Representative DeFazio was a co-founder of the Progressive Caucus along with Sanders and others in 1991. At that time, Elizabeth Warren was a freaking Republican. And while I am sure she has changed from her many years as a Reagan/Bush loyalist I am very tired of this trope that she is the lone Democratic progressive, trying to push others to the left. Her history indicates that somewhere along the line, someone or something pushed Warren to the left, not the other way around. That's what she and her boosters need to talk about, how she came to move away from racist, selfish Republican politics and anti gay, anti choice Republican positions and join along with people like Bernie, who has been doing what he is doing since she was doing the Supply Side thing.

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Rahm Emanuel’s “Huge Embarrassment”: What It Means For Liberals — And America - Salon [View all] WillyT Feb 2015 OP

Kick !!! WillyT Feb 2015 #1

Don't forget Rahm's GITMO. Octafish Feb 2015 #143

I think Rahm-rod could lose... joeybee12 Feb 2015 #2

Actually, Rahm *IS* the “Huge Embarrassment” n/t SomeGuyInEagan Feb 2015 #128

No disagreement from me! n/t Aerows Feb 2015 #138

K&R ReRe Feb 2015 #3

Is Solon owned by the Koch Bro? Cryptoad Feb 2015 #4

No brucefan Feb 2015 #6

never make me believe it Cryptoad Feb 2015 #9

why? he likes privatization and giving public money & property to corporations, just like the ND-Dem Feb 2015 #57

And union busting and closing down schools. n/t cui bono Feb 2015 #92

Yeah, those are all tenants Aerows Feb 2015 #140

Me neither! cui bono Feb 2015 #144

No idea but the DLC was in part financed by them.. Fumesucker Feb 2015 #8

25K,,,,,,, you make me laugh Cryptoad Feb 2015 #10

Does Koch creatures being on the DLC board of trustees make you laugh also? Fumesucker Feb 2015 #12

Seems you really dont have a grasp on Evil. Cryptoad Feb 2015 #13

I take it you are a Rahm supporter. nm rhett o rick Feb 2015 #14

That says it all for me Aerows Feb 2015 #18

nope Cryptoad Feb 2015 #20

That's rich Aerows Feb 2015 #22

Critical Reading is Critical Cryptoad Feb 2015 #25

Oh Aerows Feb 2015 #29

Sorry but the facts will not support that claim. Cryptoad Feb 2015 #37

Because you proclaimed it? Aerows Feb 2015 #38

no casue you claimed i stated somethings in my post Cryptoad Feb 2015 #67

Oh I'm shuddering in my boots. Aerows Feb 2015 #139

Good for you,,,,, Cryptoad Feb 2015 #145

just because someone has a D by their name doesn't make them a democrat. Unless you ND-Dem Feb 2015 #58

"Tear Down Another Democrat..." Like... Joe Lieberman, Or Zell Miller ??? WillyT Feb 2015 #61

you and your buds are not alone Cryptoad Feb 2015 #68

I Have No Idea What That Means... WillyT Feb 2015 #70

I can grasp that Cryptoad Feb 2015 #74

so you consider lieberman and miller democrats? i guess you and your buds... well.... ND-Dem Feb 2015 #88

and let us not forget Fred Phelps Mnpaul Feb 2015 #75

So you just blindly support your "team" no matter what? cui bono Feb 2015 #94

Wow, party before Country. I bet you condemn the Republicans when they do that. A Simple Game Feb 2015 #99

I think Fumesucker Aerows Feb 2015 #15

Thats your opinion,,,, Cryptoad Feb 2015 #23

You are Aerows Feb 2015 #24

You. Are. Not. Alone. Enthusiast Feb 2015 #31

Thanks :) Aerows Feb 2015 #33

Good for you Cryptoad Feb 2015 #34

You have your opinions Aerows Feb 2015 #39

never confuse opinions with facts Cryptoad Feb 2015 #40

Yeah Aerows Feb 2015 #45

You say yeah but still can not support your claims. Cryptoad Feb 2015 #49

Nope, not alone! BrotherIvan Feb 2015 #69

Me too ... n/t sabrina 1 Feb 2015 #125

Thank you :) Aerows Feb 2015 #136

No kidding The Green Manalishi Feb 2015 #135

Indeed he did! Aerows Feb 2015 #137

Seems you really don't have a grasp on reality. cui bono Feb 2015 #93

Why do you ask? cui bono Feb 2015 #91

K&R DeSwiss Feb 2015 #5

Everyone who can needs to help Garcia. There IS a chance if people come out to vote, that sabrina 1 Feb 2015 #7

They mention that a change is coming to the Democratic Party. It can't get here rhett o rick Feb 2015 #17

There is a change coming, not just here, see the Mid Terms eg, when the Progressives won and sabrina 1 Feb 2015 #43

We can't handle any more of their failed policies Mnpaul Feb 2015 #76

You Are Quite Welcome !!! WillyT Feb 2015 #59

If the election were being held the first week in July Warren DeMontague Feb 2015 #97

UMMMM, that would be the first week in August, not July. Bohunk68 Feb 2015 #108

Not this year. Warren DeMontague Feb 2015 #132

We have our own celebration, independent of others. Bohunk68 Feb 2015 #146

This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague Mar 2015 #147

That's good, man. Good for you. There was a "farfegnugen" sticker that used to say "fukinmissim" Warren DeMontague Mar 2015 #148

Anytime sabrina 1... Anytime... WillyT Feb 2015 #106

Agree. I just sent him $25. Here's the link: dmr Feb 2015 #131

Thanks, I appreciate that. Will also send him some money. sabrina 1 Feb 2015 #142

The suck is strong in that neolib. AtomicKitten Feb 2015 #11

+1! Enthusiast Feb 2015 #30

+1 Phlem Feb 2015 #82

It is certainly interesting how this is playing out... one_voice Feb 2015 #16

No one gets pushed to the left. They may change their rhetoric to try to appease the Left rhett o rick Feb 2015 #21

You mean just politicians right?... one_voice Feb 2015 #26

Of course. nm rhett o rick Feb 2015 #44

Really, so LBJ was a civil rights leader before being elected president? randys1 Feb 2015 #27

Do you think someone "pushed" LBJ to the left? That would be rather remarkable. nm rhett o rick Feb 2015 #42

A tiny, tiny bit MFrohike Feb 2015 #66

Exactly my thoughts. zeemike Feb 2015 #35

That's what I am afraid of. Rahm will suddenly and very temporarily LondonReign2 Feb 2015 #118

I think there is a difference between Obama and Rahm. Pres Obama could speak like a progressive. rhett o rick Feb 2015 #121

Agreed, they both will/have come off as fakes when they do LondonReign2 Feb 2015 #122

That's important rett o rick 1norcal Feb 2015 #130

You can't push someone to the Left. They are what they are. All that phrase means is 'push them to sabrina 1 Feb 2015 #46

okie dokie. one_voice Feb 2015 #52

And it's way-crazy to think that anyone could push H. Clinton to the left. In 2008 rhett o rick Feb 2015 #54

omg, she couldn't find her way to the left with the help of google maps and Waze! cui bono Feb 2015 #95

On Warren 'pushing others to the left' it really should be noted that many Democrats are to her Bluenorthwest Feb 2015 #62

Thank you for this... one_voice Feb 2015 #63

Did You Forget Hillary Clinton Was A Goldwater Girl ??? WillyT Feb 2015 #107

Um, no. But this is the second time Hillary Clinton was mentioned... one_voice Feb 2015 #112

Sorry... I Just Get So Fed Up With The "Warren Was A Republican..." Nonsense... WillyT Feb 2015 #117

No worries Willy! one_voice Feb 2015 #126

Reagan/Bush loyalist? Mnpaul Feb 2015 #79

Even Obama's support and a $10 mill. advantage couldn't carry Rahm over the finish line. Divernan Feb 2015 #19

I do not want Rahm Emanuel in the Democratic Party. I don't care of he changes to GOP. Enthusiast Feb 2015 #28

Was Rahm part of the early Chicago Penny Pritzker, Hilton-Superior Bank support for BO? appalachiablue Feb 2015 #85

I'm not sure about that. Enthusiast Feb 2015 #98

Rahm is not in the Democratic Party. He is part of the Third Way that LondonReign2 Feb 2015 #119

Emanuel has sorely underestimated Chicagoans rage over the parking meters riderinthestorm Feb 2015 #32

I thought the parking meter fiasco was Daley's final gift on his way out the door . . . hatrack Feb 2015 #72

It was but Emanuel has taken that privatization scheme and expanded it 10x riderinthestorm Feb 2015 #109

Thanks for the link swilton Feb 2015 #123

This message was self-deleted by its author stillwaiting Feb 2015 #36

Poor Rahm. Tsk. Tsk. Sad, very sad. Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2015 #41

The article could have also pointed out rpannier Feb 2015 #47

Talk about missing the point! Warpy Feb 2015 #48

This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Feb 2015 #50

+10 Same here- appalachiablue Feb 2015 #104

+1,000. Sad, isn't it? LondonReign2 Feb 2015 #120

When was that? former9thward Feb 2015 #141

“moral victory” fallacy Renew Deal Feb 2015 #51

Nader and Nader voters are being used as scapegoats for the failure of the Democratic rhett o rick Feb 2015 #56

This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Feb 2015 #64

It's never their fault Mnpaul Feb 2015 #77

Just like Republicans indeed. JEB Feb 2015 #124

Well that was a lame ass comparison. Who's bush in this scenario? nt Guy Whitey Corngood Feb 2015 #60

What will the other candidates do? KamaAina Feb 2015 #53

make it so. ND-Dem Feb 2015 #55

The tide is turning. 99Forever Feb 2015 #65

This message was self-deleted by its author Corruption Inc Feb 2015 #71

Why is "huge embarrassment" about a Dem so bruited on a Dem website?!1 I don't care. n/t UTUSN Feb 2015 #73

Buh By! Phlem Feb 2015 #84

Garcia is also a Dem. Starry Messenger Feb 2015 #87

You can have him. Maybe he'll shut down schools and city run mental health clinics Guy Whitey Corngood Feb 2015 #102

Hmmm, so there is hope. Jamastiene Feb 2015 #78

Go Garcia! Take the Third Way down! daredtowork Feb 2015 #80

Rahm and Debbie Wasserman Shultz - the very model of the loony right wing of the Dem Party whereisjustice Feb 2015 #81

I'm waiting for the defenders and centrist, third way apologists to show up Phlem Feb 2015 #83

http://media.liveauctiongroup.net/i/9378/10425744_2.jpg?v=8CDBD2ABE243CF0 blkmusclmachine Feb 2015 #86

I blame myself WhaTHellsgoingonhere Feb 2015 #89

"it’s hard to deny that there’s a change happening within the Democratic base" cui bono Feb 2015 #90

Insulting people is not generally a good strategy to get them to vote the way you want Warren DeMontague Feb 2015 #96

That idea is fornicatingly cognitively challenged... Fumesucker Feb 2015 #115

Politics aside, I've always considered the guy a jerk. Kind of a skinny Chris Christie. Vinca Feb 2015 #100

oh please Chicago kick Rahm's ass to the curb!!! tartan2 Feb 2015 #101

Rahm...remember when you laughed at us when we tried to rid ourselves of Stellar Feb 2015 #103

I'm donating money to García and will volunteer to get the vote out. I still think Guy Whitey Corngood Feb 2015 #105

picking rahm to be WHCoS told me all i needed to know about obama. KG Feb 2015 #110

Rahm's a Liberal PatrynXX Feb 2015 #111

when he loses the runoff, I want to know where to line up to piss on his political grave yurbud Feb 2015 #113

It's still an uphill climb for García. We'll do our best but can't guarantee you'll have Guy Whitey Corngood Feb 2015 #129

if he wins, we'll just have to mail the piss and tell him it's champagne yurbud Feb 2015 #133

In that case we'll need the big bottle for him and his boy Rauner. nt Guy Whitey Corngood Feb 2015 #134

Obama picking Rahm as his chief of staff was when I knew we had been had yurbud Feb 2015 #114

Another major factor (not mentioned in the article) is Rahm's support of our new Snarkoleptic Feb 2015 #116

K&R! KoKo Feb 2015 #127